Fanboy Complaints: BATMAN BEGINS

Fanboy Complaints: BATMAN BEGINS

Read as I take on some of the complaints fanboys had against Batman Begins. Also this editorial will include SPOILERS!

Editorial Opinion
By yonny616 - Sep 30, 2013 03:09 PM EST
Filed Under: Batman


Good evening ComicBookMovie! I decided to tackle some of the complaints fanboys have against Batman Begins and I will share with you guys my response to these complaints. I will once again warn you this editorial will have spoilers. So in the words of Ra's Al Ghul: "Are you ready to begin?".

1. They Screwed Up Henri Ducard:
Okay I’m sure at least half of Batman’s fans know who Henri Ducard is. He is one of the men who trained Bruce Wayne, before Bruce was Batman. Fanboys complain Nolan destroyed the character by making him a false identity that Ra’s Al Ghul uses to deceive Bruce Wayne. Why is that bad? Liam portrays a man in the first thirty minutes of the film who trains Bruce Wayne and is know as Henri Ducard. Not to mention there isn't much story to Henri Ducard other than he trained Batman. I don’t think he ruined or destroyed, he just found a way to use Henri Ducard’s name without saying Liam was Ra’s Al Ghul until the plot twist.

2. That thing isn't the Bat-mobile:
Technically, it was never called the “Batmobile”, but this is probably one of the biggest complaints fanboys had. Fanboys roared at the fact that Nolan’s Bat-mobile didn't look like anything from the previous films, cartoons, or video games. They complained away and away saying this isn't the Batmobile, the Batmobile doesn't look like a tank, blah blah blah. Well I got three words for you: Frank Millar's Batmobile. If anyone has read the book or the seen the animated films of The Dark Knight Returns they know that the Bat-mobile that Batman had was a tank. So why complain when Nolan makes his look like a tank too? Oh yeah, it’s a movie that has to follow the comic books canon according to these fanboys. Nolan took a concept that frankly would look silly in his pseudo-realistic world. Not to mention WB had to convince Nolan to add in the Batmobile, and they also had to convince him not to destroy it in the movie either.

3. They screwed up Ra’s Al Ghul too:
To me or anyone who knows anything about Ra’s Al Ghul knows this is just a right out lie. Ra’s is an “immortal” Arab terrorist who is the leader of The League of Assassin’s and, while being his foe, has great respect for Batman. He wants Batman to be his successor and lead the League. This is, more or less, the same Ra’s in Batman Begins. The only real difference is Ra’s in Batman Begins leads the League of Shadows, and instead of using the Lazarus Pit for immortality he uses theatrics and deception to seem immortal.

4. Batman doesn't build his own gadgets:
I still run into this complaint from time to time. I guess these fanboys keep missing the part where Batman makes his own bat-arang, constructs his own Bat-suit and creates the legendary Bat-belt. Sure you can say he didn't make his own Bat-mobile, but you don’t really care, you just want to see the thing on the road.

5. Batman isn't a detective:
Who would have thought there was only one form of being a detective? Batman interrogates Flass about where the other half of the drugs were going to. One he finds them, he goes to investigate the drugs. He investigates Jim Gordon is up to. There are many times Batman does detective work. He also investigates the crooked Judge. He also finds out what Crane's plan.

6. Batman killed Ra’s:
Okay this one I love to have fun with. Batman doesn't kill Ra’s; he just chooses not to save him. It isn't Batman’s fault Ra’s didn't have an exit strategy

These are my responses to some of the fanboy complaints. Hope you guys enjoyed the read. I will do more on other films too, but for now thank you for your time.
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CorndogBurglar
CorndogBurglar - 9/30/2013, 4:14 PM
4. Batman didnt build the batsuit or the belt. It was given to him by Luscious. All he did was spray paint the suit. He did make the batarangs though.

6. No, he did not kill Ra's, but he did let him die, which is still something that Batman is totally against. The whole point of Batman is to save lives and not let people die, no matter how evil they are. Do you have any idea how many times Batman has saved the Joker's life in the comics? The most evil, sadistic, murderous villain ever created and Batman's worst enemy. Yet he has saved his life countless times. Why? Because Batman believes that if you have the power to save a life but choose not to, then you might as well be the one that is doing the killing. That is what people have a problem with and there is no argument in the world that can change that.


Having said all of that, I was okay with the Dark Knight films until Rises came along and ruined what the first two set up.

Batman Begins was easily my favorite of the 3.
CorndogBurglar
CorndogBurglar - 9/30/2013, 4:19 PM
Before anyone jumps my balls, the only problem I had with Rises was that they had 8 years pass betweem TDK and Rises. This essentially means that Batman was only active for a year and a half at the most. Thats being generous.

In BB he was Batman for like what, a week before the movie ended? Hell, lets be generous and call it a month. Then it ended with Gordon telling him about Joker. Again, lets be generous and say that a year passes between Begins and TDK. (By the way, Batman would not have waited that long to take action against The Joker's crime spree, but again, we're being generous here.) Then the TDK takes place over the course of a few days.

Then he retires for 8 years only to come back for a day?

Sorry, but that ruined it for me.
yonny616
yonny616 - 9/30/2013, 4:32 PM
@CrondoBurglar Actually he does make the belt. The belt is a plain belt connected to some straps, and the belts pockets were solo things he puts onto the belt. I never said he made the items for the suit, but he did construct it for the most part.
MrCameron
MrCameron - 9/30/2013, 5:53 PM
Why the [frick] would anyone have any complaints about this film? To me, it is the best CBM to date.


MrCameron
MrCameron - 9/30/2013, 5:54 PM
Dang @Jollem, I posted the same pic as you without realizing it lol.
btmcclure
btmcclure - 9/30/2013, 6:10 PM
Batman begins is my favorite of the trilogy. It's the only one that felt like a solid batman film. The others are good and the dark knight was a great movie but not a great batman film. Batman begins is a great batman film.
relentless1
relentless1 - 9/30/2013, 6:42 PM
only things i had a problem with in begins was him letting ras die (batman would never do that) and having fox do most of the legwork as far as gadgets and chemistry are concerned
yonny616
yonny616 - 9/30/2013, 7:36 PM
@Omega I never found Katie to be as bad as people make her out to be. Is she winning an oscar for it? Hell no, but the bad performance is truly blown out of proportion.
Lhornbk
Lhornbk - 9/30/2013, 7:46 PM
Here we go again, more DC fanboy holier than thou self-righteous whining about Batman or Superman either killing someone or letting them die. First of all, get it through your thick skulls--Batman does NOT actually exist. There is no such thing as a DEFINITIVE Batman. So a writer or producer or director changing things up a little does NOT go against his basic character, because he doesn't have a basic character. Heck, early on he used a gun! At other times, he's a deputized agent of the Gotham PD (60s Batman show.) Second, no, refusing to save someone is not the same thing as killing. Bruce saved him on the mountain, just to see him attempt to kill millions by destroying Gotham (I assume Gotham has a population of at least a million.) I think he's perfectly justified in deciding that saving him again might be a bad idea.

As for the rest of your article, there's something you need to realize. Fanboys are stupid, you might as well give up convincing them.
mook
mook - 10/1/2013, 8:52 AM
It's still the best Batman Film
marvel72
marvel72 - 10/1/2013, 3:11 PM
batman begins the best batman movie ever!
KingEmperor
KingEmperor - 10/12/2013, 2:32 AM
To the people who complained about Batman not saving Ra's apparently haven't read "A Death In The Family", where...


***SPOILERS***










... Batman jumps out of a crashing helicopter, leaving a wounded Joker still inside it behind.
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