JOKER: FOLIE À DEUX Director Todd Phillips Reveals Whether We'll See Harvey Dent Become Two-Face

JOKER: FOLIE À DEUX Director Todd Phillips Reveals Whether We'll See Harvey Dent Become Two-Face

Joker: Folie à Deux director Todd Phillips has revealed whether we'll see Harvey Dent transform into Two-Face in the upcoming sequel and, after the first movie, his answer probably won't surprise you...

By JoshWilding - Sep 06, 2024 05:09 AM EST
Filed Under: Joker
Source: IGN

There were rumblings for a while that Harvey Dent might make an appearance in Joker: Folie à Deux, and a recently released TV spot confirmed Harry Lawtey (Industry) is indeed playing the Gotham City DA. 

With so much of this sequel set to play out in the courtroom, common sense surely dictates that we'll see the moment Dent is attacked and transformed into the twisted Two-Face. Now so, according to filmmaker Todd Phillips. 

"We respect the comics. We get the comics," he tells IGN. "In Harley's case, we watched the animated series. Of course, Margot Robbie is Harley Quinn. But when we run things through this film — Harvey Dent is a perfect example. It's actually a simpler way of talking about what we did with Harley, which was really just put the real-world lens on it, and not that other movies didn't, but just run it through our Gotham."

"And so really, the Harvey Dent you meet in here [played by Harry Lawtey] is not a huge part, but if you're going to have a trial, why wouldn't you have the Assistant DA prosecuting Arthur Fleck be Harvey Dent?" Phillips adds. "But it's not about his – we don't really reveal his dark side. We see a young Harvey Dent."

With no plans for a Joker 3, it appears we'll be left to imagine what the future holds in store for Dent and Bruce Wayne, Gotham City's future Batman.

Joker made it clear that Phillips' movies aren't meant as direct adaptations of the comics, so the fact this sequel borrows more familiar names from the source material is more a way of fleshing out Gotham City than it is a sign we'll wrap things up with Batman fighting Arthur Fleck! 

In the same interview, the writer and director elaborated on how Joker: Folie à Deux, a sequel we never expected to see, came to be. 

"Joaquin jokingly was like, 'We could have shot for three more months,' on the first movie I'm talking about. And I felt the same way. Again, normally I'm like, 'Get me the f**k out of here, get me to the editing room and let's go figure out what this is,'" Phillips explains. "But on Joker 1, we just loved Arthur, and I know Joaquin did as well."

"Joaquin and I really started talking about a sequel probably on day 30 of the 55-day shoot on the first film, and half of it was joking and half of it wasn't. And we would just kind of do it to make each other laugh and say, 'Well, what if we did this? What if we did that?'" 

He adds, "And then, of course, the movie came out. The movie was sort of embraced by people, and people loved Arthur as much as Joaquin and I loved Arthur."

Joker: Folie À Deux finds Arthur Fleck institutionalized at Arkham awaiting trial for his crimes as Joker. While struggling with his dual identity, Arthur not only stumbles upon true love, but also finds the music that's always been inside him.

The sequel stars Joaquin Phoenix once again in his Oscar-winning dual role as Arthur Fleck/Joker, opposite Oscar-winner Lady Gaga (A Star Is Born). The movie also features Oscar nominees Brendan Gleeson (The Banshees of Inisherin) and Catherine Keener (Get Out), alongside Zazie Beetz, reprising her role from Joker.

Joker: Folie À Deux arrives in theaters on October 4.

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Feralwookiee
Feralwookiee - 9/6/2024, 5:56 AM
"We respect the comics. We get the comics."
-Gives the Joker a name and a definitive origin.

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TheFinestSmack
TheFinestSmack - 9/6/2024, 6:01 AM
Something was REVEALED!!!
RegularPoochie
RegularPoochie - 9/6/2024, 6:31 AM
@TheFinestSmack - yeah, revealed that we don't see Two-Face in this, yet. Could be the villain for 3rd if it even happens and this just introduces Dent.
ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 9/6/2024, 1:41 PM
@RegularPoochie - We're gonna get one of these for every single villain. Every film will have a tease for the next solo villain film.

Then they'll all die randomly or of old age and then Bruce will become Batman in a very quiet city.
ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 9/6/2024, 1:42 PM
Either that or they'll all team up because of something to do with Spider-Man.
RegularPoochie
RegularPoochie - 9/6/2024, 3:28 PM
@ObserverIO - this is also very true. And I think your other comment went to wrong artcle?
lazlodaytona
lazlodaytona - 9/6/2024, 6:23 AM
It's like the show GOTHAM: THE MOVIE
Biggums
Biggums - 9/6/2024, 2:15 PM
@lazlodaytona - coldblooded.
lazlodaytona
lazlodaytona - 9/6/2024, 4:51 PM
@Biggums - funny thing, I like GOTHAM quite a bit. The concept, especially S2 and on got utterly ridiculous. However, I still liked it quite a bit because I accepted it for what it was.
WelcomeBackFrank
WelcomeBackFrank - 9/6/2024, 6:45 AM
Kind of seems pointless to even use him if he doesn’t get his face splashed with acid or some chemical to not go there… especially in an R-rated film like “Joker: Folie A Deux.” Imagine how worse they could make him than what Nolan did. Alas… this sequel is sounding like it *could be* good or an experimental disaster.
Tardisdan
Tardisdan - 9/6/2024, 6:47 AM
I mean they wouldn't tell us if he did and spoile the movie
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 9/6/2024, 7:02 AM
That’s understandable honestly because why not pull an already established character from the comics and put them into a specific role that they could fit instead of creating another original character?.

I honestly appreciate that and wish at times more creatives would do that in these adaptations , regardless of how well received or not that OC can be.

Also in regards to this being a different take , I have viewed it as this standalone graphic novel honestly akin to Brian Azzarello & Lee Bermejo’s Joker.

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Granted that take is more “accurate” or closer to versions we have read or seen of the character previously but it’s still set within its own world with its own iteration of others such as Riddler so that they can do a character story in which we delve a bit into the psyche of that Joker which we get in Phillips duology aswell.
Urubrodi
Urubrodi - 9/6/2024, 7:16 AM
So he's there as a pointless eater egg, got it
TheyDont
TheyDont - 9/6/2024, 7:27 AM
@Urubrodi - Kinda like Bruce in the first one
lazlodaytona
lazlodaytona - 9/6/2024, 7:37 AM
@Urubrodi - kinda like Burton's first Batman.
TheFinestSmack
TheFinestSmack - 9/6/2024, 7:16 AM
"Todd Phillips Reveals Whether We'll See Harvey Dent Become Two-Face"

Josh...this literally reveals nothing one way or the other.
TheNewYorker
TheNewYorker - 9/6/2024, 7:36 AM
Why in the world would they.. That would be way too exciting. Clearly they’d rather keep things a little more mild.
Matchesz
Matchesz - 9/6/2024, 8:48 AM
I respect the fresh realistic approach they took with these films so i’ll hold off my judgement. Dont mind a you g Harvey if Vruce is still a kid/teen
KennKathleen
KennKathleen - 9/6/2024, 9:39 AM
@Matchesz - Thing is, they MUST double down on the interest of both Harvey and Bruce, to justify the purpose of seeing them before they become what we've come to expect.

Hollywood seemingly no longer has the brains for this task, and as stated above, we've already seen years of this in Fox television.

I'm hoping they are more than a nod. It'd be cool to see a philosophical display of the Joker/2Face hospital scene.

Jokers actions could be the first "dent" in Harvey's unshakable sense of morality. 🪙 🪙
The1st
The1st - 9/6/2024, 11:18 AM
@Matchesz - I respect that, but personally I've had my fill of realistic and grounded in reality.
ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 9/6/2024, 1:46 PM
"Get me to the editing room and let's go figure out what this is"

You should probably know what it is before then.
Biggums
Biggums - 9/6/2024, 2:37 PM
He's got that similar Nolan follicular recession. Except it dont make me Moist.

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