JOKER: FOLIE À DEUX Star Lady Gaga Said To Be "Shocked" At Negative Reactions To Sequel

JOKER: FOLIE À DEUX Star Lady Gaga Said To Be "Shocked" At Negative Reactions To Sequel

According to a new report, Lady Gaga was not expecting such a negative critical or commercial response to Todd Phillips' Joker: Folie à Deux...

By MarkCassidy - Oct 08, 2024 08:10 AM EST
Filed Under: Joker

Though an argument can definitely be made that some people are going a bit overboard with their criticisms of the movie, there's no denying that Warner Bros. and director Todd Phillips have a misfire on their hands with Joker: Folie à Deux.

After being hit with a disappointing 33% Rotten Tomatoes score and the lowest CinemaScore in comic book movie history (D), the downbeat musical sequel only managed to take in around $40 million at the domestic box office (it did slightly better overseas) this past weekend.

According to The UK's Daily Mail, Lady Gaga, who plays a new take on Harley Quinn, is said to be "shocked" at the negative response following the movie's mostly positive reception at the Venice Film Festival.

"Gaga is surprised by the response to Joker 2 and is shocked that people don’t love it after the response it received from critics before it premiered. She put so much heart into the movie and has so much respect for the DC Comics fan base."

There was a lot of hype for Gaga's performance prior to the movie's release, and some had pegged her for another Academy Award nomination.

To be fair, very few people seem to have had a problem with Gaga or co-star Joaquin Phoenix's performances, and the perception appears to be that while "Lee" was a little underused/underdeveloped, Gaga did everything she could with what she had to work with.

The pop megastar turned actress is now said to be keen to put this behind her and move on to her next project, and is reportedly eyeing a role in Quentin Tarantino's next film, The Movie Critic.

From acclaimed writer/director/producer Todd Phillips comes Joker: Folie À Deux, the much-anticipated follow-up to 2019’s Academy Award-winning Joker, which earned more than $1 billion at the global box office and remains the (second) highest-grossing R-rated film of all time.

The new film stars Joaquin Phoenix once again in his Oscar-winning dual role as Arthur Fleck/Joker, opposite Oscar winner Lady Gaga (A Star Is Born). The film also stars Oscar nominees Brendan Gleeson (The Banshees of Inisherin) and Catherine Keener (Get Out, Capote), alongside Zazie Beetz, reprising her role from Joker.

The movie is rated R for “some strong violence, language throughout, some sexuality, and brief full nudity.”

Do you plan on seeing the Joker sequel in theaters, or have the reviews put you off? Let us know in the comments section down below.

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bobevanz
bobevanz - 10/8/2024, 8:49 AM
Their 7 minute standing ovation means nothing now. This and Megalopolis gets the same love as actual good movies. Hacks
harryba11zack
harryba11zack - 10/8/2024, 8:50 AM
maybe people just wanted to see a movie about the joker not a bum victim
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TheJok3r
TheJok3r - 10/8/2024, 8:51 AM
Leave it to DC to make a movie with a worse reception than Catwoman and Batman & Robin.
lazlodaytona
lazlodaytona - 10/8/2024, 9:16 AM
Jonah Hex, Superman IV, Green Lantern, STEEL, Supergirl....
I mean, shoot. The list could go on and on.
MarkCassidy
MarkCassidy - 10/8/2024, 8:55 AM
I didn't care for this movie at all but I'm almost feeling the need to defend it against some of the ott backlash I'm seeing. Worst comic book movie ever? WHAT?!? 🤣
Snow43214
Snow43214 - 10/8/2024, 9:00 AM
@MarkCassidy - I think it's because it's a lot more high profile than lesser cmbs such as Fan4stic so the outcry is more vocal
Snow43214
Snow43214 - 10/8/2024, 9:00 AM
@Snow43214 - cbms*
MarkCassidy
MarkCassidy - 10/8/2024, 9:05 AM
@Snow43214 - yeah I get that this is probably a lot more disappointing since expectations were higher, but a bit of perspective is needed.
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 10/8/2024, 9:06 AM
@MarkCassidy - people are drama queens.
mountainman
mountainman - 10/8/2024, 9:09 AM
@MarkCassidy - People came into this with higher expectations than they had for movies like Catwoman or Fant4stic.

I haven’t seen it, but I doubt it’s worse than either. It just let more people down.
SATW42
SATW42 - 10/8/2024, 9:14 AM
@MarkCassidy - I still haven't seen it, seems like I might be soon because it's gotta be going to Max like, this week lmao, but I find myself wanting to defend it based on a lot of what I've been reading too.

First of all, there's no way it's actually worse than Madam Webb or Morbius. Second, the story of knocking him back down from icon to loser does seem to be an interesting narrative and kind of an interesting "eff you" to a certain section of the originals fan base. It seems people who shouldn't be taking it personally are, and I'm not quite sure why. Like, if you didn't idolize him, why are you mad at the film for telling you you shouldn't idolize this man?

I'm also confused by the idea that it's a "waste" because of the ending and erases the first movie. It's been a theory since the original that Arthur may in fact simply be someone who inspires the Joker. Then that comes to pass and THE SAME PEOPLE who said they thought Arthur weren't the Joker but an inspiration are mad about it. It doesn't make sense.
MarkCassidy
MarkCassidy - 10/8/2024, 9:17 AM
@SATW42 - it's not even as bad as standard, generic superhero stuff like Blue Beetle or Aquaman. The script is thin and the musical numbers are brutal and pointless, but it's still aiming for something. It misses, but still.
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 10/8/2024, 9:35 AM
@SATW42 - I agree though I can understand the backlash to an extent aswell…

I have heard the movie essentially resets Arthur back to how he was in the first one from the beginning so there’s no real evolution to the character other then him flirting with embracing the Joker etc.

If it feels like a retread to people then I can understand the complaints somewhat.
Vigor
Vigor - 10/8/2024, 10:44 AM
@SATW42 - I feel the exact same way as you! I could have written this verbatim (tho to be fair I often agree with your takes).

People are being really fickle. I struggle to find fault in the ending. It's actually exactly the ending I'd hope for. It makes everything make sense
Vigor
Vigor - 10/8/2024, 10:46 AM
@TheVisionary25 - "essentially resets Arthur back to how he was in the first one from the beginning so there’s no real evolution to the character other then him flirting with embracing the Joker etc."
To me that's the most realistic arc for Arthur

If you're a loser and then become a killer, at the end of the day you're still a loser. And that's the message we as a society should be shouting from the top of the bleachers
It's like the story of the Menendez brothers. Losers. Did something shocking. At the end of the day they got life in prison and amounted to nothing
LOSERS
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 10/8/2024, 10:52 AM
@Vigor - that’s fair and I can agree with that but if that’s how his arc ended with him rejecting that persons and just being Arthur again then I could get it

However , he’s pretty much essentially in this at the beginning as he was in the beginning of the first one so I can understand peoples issues more.
relentless1
relentless1 - 10/8/2024, 12:26 PM
@MarkCassidy - yeah it really is the worst because as bad as some others have been at least they didn't try to be musicals 😂😂😂
McMurdo
McMurdo - 10/8/2024, 2:52 PM
@MarkCassidy - this film is far worse than Blue Beetle
LibraMatter
LibraMatter - 10/8/2024, 8:03 PM
@MarkCassidy - the story isn’t bad at all. The acting is really good. The musical parts just disrupt the flow of the story and are a little much. The Moulin Rouge-y kind of aspect where they sing songs we know and try to fit them into the story is not good. If they just made an edit with only story and no musical aspects, the rotten tomatoe score would be much higher. Also, there’s no way it’s as bad as Madam Web. I’ve seen both and no way.
HashTagSwagg
HashTagSwagg - 10/8/2024, 8:56 AM
Todd Phillips thought he was Amber Heard and DC was Johnny Depp's bed.
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NickScryer
NickScryer - 10/8/2024, 9:08 AM
Well, at least they own up and don't blame the audience for bad reception.

Or maybe I'm wrong, and soon Phillips will say we didn't understand the movie and proved it's point by only caring about Joker, not Arthur Fleck.
Lisa89
Lisa89 - 10/8/2024, 9:21 AM
@NickScryer - You didn't understand the movie and proved it's point by only caring about Joker, not Arthur Fleck.
ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 10/8/2024, 12:08 PM
@NickScryer - I think they already did blame the audience. They said the audience didn't like the female co-lead, the gay kiss/implied gay relationship or the implied gangrape of the main character.
NickScryer
NickScryer - 10/8/2024, 12:14 PM
@ObserverIO - oh, in that case F them.
mountainman
mountainman - 10/8/2024, 9:10 AM
Much respect to Lady Gaga for handling this professionally. Sounds like more people in Hollywood should take her lead on how to deal with a poor performing project.
IAmAHoot
IAmAHoot - 10/8/2024, 9:13 AM
@mountainman - Handling it professionally? We haven't seen her handle it any way yet...
mountainman
mountainman - 10/8/2024, 9:34 AM
@IAmAHoot - The quote in the article isn’t from her personally but given via a proxy, I get that. But this is all that I have to go on regarding her reaction, and from I can see it’s professional. I’ll happily update my assessment if I see her attacking fans.
IAmAHoot
IAmAHoot - 10/8/2024, 9:46 AM
@mountainman - So if you don't lash out it's inherently labeled professional?
Usually it goes that if you attack and lash out you are THEN deemed un-professional. Being silently shocked on your own hardly goes one way or the other.
mountainman
mountainman - 10/8/2024, 10:01 AM
@IAmAHoot - Im really not interested in exploring this concept further with you. She sounded more professional here than many other actors, directors, and show runners who insult the audience when they don’t like something.

If you disagree, then this inconsequential opinion I just shared differs from yours. It really doesn’t matter.
Battinson
Battinson - 10/8/2024, 9:10 AM
Who cares, Joker will never be forgotten nor will it ever be bad because of Joker 2(which isn't bad, just unnecessary)
cubrn
cubrn - 10/8/2024, 9:11 AM
I think it will gain appreciation over time. I didn't like it, but I thought it was well made. What would have made me really like the film is if the singing/musical moments were more high concept than what we got and all within Arthur's imagination. I didn't care for the "realistic" singing/mumbling.
Forthas
Forthas - 10/8/2024, 9:14 AM
When they announced it would be a musical! I had a bad feeling it would not turn out well.
IAmAHoot
IAmAHoot - 10/8/2024, 9:17 AM
I haven't heard many negatives about her performance, but moreover she's been praised, so that should at least be of some solace. But of course it's going to be disheartening to hear after all the hard work and commitment and the likely good-to-great time they had working on the collaboration.
JayLemle
JayLemle - 10/8/2024, 9:38 AM
MEH, shit happens! I don't care for her as an actor or singer. I'd be a fool to NOT realize her talent. She didn't plan the budget. She didn't write the movie. She was hired to do her job, and she did it. I haven't seen it, but I can't imagine Gaga being the single downfall of this movie.

Girl, just get back on that horse and keep on ridin'. You're too good an actor to let this get to you.
Nomis929
Nomis929 - 10/8/2024, 9:44 AM
I'm A bit shocked myself!

I knew it'll be some negative responses but this sort of vitriol for the movie was unexpected.
Ha1frican
Ha1frican - 10/8/2024, 9:46 AM
She may have respect for DC comic fans but Todd Phillips sure doesnt
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