New JOKER: FOLIE À DEUX Trailer's Closed Captions Confirm Plans For Another Iconic Batman Villain To Appear

New JOKER: FOLIE À DEUX Trailer's Closed Captions Confirm Plans For Another Iconic Batman Villain To Appear

Today's Joker: Folie À Deux featured plenty of exciting talking points for DC fans, but upon closer inspection, we can confirm that another iconic member of Batman's iconic rogues gallery will appear...

By JoshWilding - Jul 23, 2024 11:07 AM EST
Filed Under: Joker

Warner Bros. released a new trailer for Joker: Folie À Deux earlier today (you can watch it here if you missed it) and on closer inspection, we've spotted a significant Easter Egg. 

You'll no doubt remember that the first movie featured Thomas, Martha, and Bruce Wayne in a subplot which strongly hinted that Arthur Fleck might be Thomas' illegitimate son. Bruce's parents were then killed by a man wearing a clown mask during the final act, setting the stage for Bruce to become Batman...and to really hate Fleck for causing that uprising in Gotham City. 

It remains to be seen whether the sequel picks up with that in any way, but the closed captions for the latest sneak peek confirm Harvey Dent will make an appearance. 

Set photos showed Joker's supporters brandishing signs calling Dent a "clown." so we've long suspected he might appear. When it comes to who plays him, we don't know, though Harry Lawtey (The Magpie Murders) has been linked to the role in the past. 

If he's an up-and-comer in the District Attorney's office in Joker: Folie À Deux and out to keep Fleck behind bars, then it's easy to imagine a scenario where he's attacked in the courtroom, leading to the introduction of yet another iconic Batman villain. 

The Joker franchise isn't beholden to the comics so while that would be a departure from the source material, there's still a chance we'll see a Bruce suit up as "The Batman" in a potential threequel. 

Check out some screenshots from the trailer below (the scene comes around the 0:10 mark).

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From acclaimed writer/director/producer Todd Phillips comes Joker: Folie À Deux, the much-anticipated follow-up to 2019's Academy Award-winning Joker, which earned more than $1 billion at the global box office and remains the highest-grossing R-rated film of all time.

Joker: Folie À Deux finds Arthur Fleck institutionalized at Arkham awaiting trial for his crimes as Joker. While struggling with his dual identity, Arthur not only stumbles upon true love, but also finds the music that's always been inside him.

The sequel stars Joaquin Phoenix once again in his Oscar-winning dual role as Arthur Fleck/Joker, opposite Oscar-winner Lady Gaga (A Star Is Born). The movie also features Oscar nominees Brendan Gleeson (The Banshees of Inisherin) and Catherine Keener (Get Out), alongside Zazie Beetz, reprising her role from Joker.

Phillips, who was nominated for Oscars for directing, writing and producing Joker, directed Joker: Folie À Deux from a screenplay by fellow Oscar nominee Scott Silver & Phillips, based on characters from DC. This follow-up was produced by Phillips, Oscar nominee Emma Tillinger Koskoff and Joseph Garner. Lady Gaga served as music consultant.

Joker: Folie À Deux will be released worldwide by Warner Bros. Pictures, and will be only in theaters nationwide on October 4, 2024, and beginning internationally on October 2, 2024.

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YouFlopped
YouFlopped - 7/23/2024, 11:27 AM
that would be a crazy twist lol
lazlodaytona
lazlodaytona - 7/23/2024, 2:11 PM
@YouFlopped - here's hoping he'd have more facetime as actual 2-face more than he had in The Dark Knight.
Deadinside
Deadinside - 7/23/2024, 2:38 PM
@lazlodaytona - Actually, shouldn't he have double the facetime, since, well, you know...? ☮️😉
lazlodaytona
lazlodaytona - 7/23/2024, 2:58 PM
@Deadinside - I have no idea what u mean but i'm gonna agree with you and just say 'hell yes!'
Deadinside
Deadinside - 7/23/2024, 3:04 PM
@lazlodaytona -
It's Two-Face we're talking about, so, double facetime...! ☮️😋
Malatrova15
Malatrova15 - 7/24/2024, 1:23 AM
@lazlodaytona - ooj its kinda of a joke because he is two face he has two faces ..make the coubt ma.
Evansly
Evansly - 7/23/2024, 11:27 AM
I understand why people loved the first one but it really wasn't for me. I like the films it referenced much more.

GaGa can put on a hell of a performance so that does peak my interest but I'm not fully vibing with the tone
MisterDoctor217
MisterDoctor217 - 7/23/2024, 11:42 AM
@Evansly -

Totally with you on this.

Although to be honest Gaga hasn’t impressed me in the trailers at all.

Seems to me she’s doing the same act as Joker in ten first movie up to the same dance moves.

She was way better in the House of Gucci trailers.
DravenCorvis
DravenCorvis - 7/23/2024, 11:43 AM
"there's still a chance we'll see a Bruce suit up as "The Batman" in a potential threequel."

I highly doubt there will be a 3rd.

I'm still shocked that they got Joaquin locked in for a sequel.

"in a subplot which strongly hinted that Arthur Fleck might be Thomas' illegitimate son."

It wasn't hinted.

Arthur read a letter from his mum to Thomas saying Arthur is his.

Whether it was the truth is up for debate, but it wasn't hinted.
ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 7/23/2024, 12:15 PM
@DravenCorvis - If this makes money there'll be a third and a fourth and a host of villain spin-offs and then a big crossover.

In 2019 Joker was supposed to be a standalone movie, unrelated to - in fact the very antithesis of the cbm blockbuster franchise. Art over commerce.
Then it made a billion dollars.

Now it's 2024 and they're making a musical sequel.
AC1
AC1 - 7/23/2024, 11:58 AM
It's weird how these two movies have kinda taken the concept that Gotham eventually fell into of using Batman's villains while Bruce is still a kid yet actually making good movies
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 7/23/2024, 12:07 PM
@AC1 - yeah though it seems like this time all his villains will be much older then him then in Gotham were most of them were a similar age or a a bit older.
AC1
AC1 - 7/23/2024, 12:13 PM
@TheVisionary25 - yeah this version of Batman is just gonna be beating up elderly residents at Arkham Senior Centre by the time he suits up 😂
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 7/23/2024, 12:15 PM
@AC1 - lol

Dudes a real menace.
lazlodaytona
lazlodaytona - 7/23/2024, 2:15 PM
@AC1 - .......and? What's wrong with those beating up the evil elderly? When they were young adults they swatted kids with brick sticks and leather straps. Screw dem b1tches. Let those evil bad guys suffer for torturing and killing innocent people for decades now.
ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 7/23/2024, 12:11 PM
Get ready for the Two-Face spin-off. And the Clayface spin-off. And the False Face spin-off. And the About Face they're gonna do from being a non-commercial, non-franchise one-off.
lazlodaytona
lazlodaytona - 7/23/2024, 2:16 PM
@ObserverIO - and the Harley/Joker love child spin-off
ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 7/23/2024, 2:17 PM
@lazlodaytona - ..who eventually grows up to be the new Joker and fights Batman.
lazlodaytona
lazlodaytona - 7/23/2024, 2:56 PM
@ObserverIO -

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S8R8M
S8R8M - 7/23/2024, 12:14 PM
The first one was enough for me. Still not up there with Ledger.
lazlodaytona
lazlodaytona - 7/23/2024, 2:18 PM
@S8R8M - it's not supposed to be. This film/these films are not batman films. It's elseworlds films that focus on a nutjob name Authur Fleck. Yeah, there happens to be a kid named Bruce Wayne in there but that's all he is. Another character who has no business trying to stop the JOKER.
S8R8M
S8R8M - 7/23/2024, 3:16 PM
@lazlodaytona - I know.
Just saying one is enough in a joker film and a joker.
Wish it all the best and I hope you enjoy it.
McMurdo
McMurdo - 7/23/2024, 12:17 PM
There's quite literally zero chance of Bruce suiting up as Batman in the threequel Josh. He's 5 years old.
DravenCorvis
DravenCorvis - 7/23/2024, 1:01 PM
@McMurdo - This.

Don't know why he can't wrap his head around it.

He's mentioned this a few times in the past as well.
lazlodaytona
lazlodaytona - 7/23/2024, 3:02 PM
@McMurdo - why would you want bats in these elseworld films?
The movies are about Auther Fleck who went beyond crazy (good time to do it in the 80s) and wanted to be called JOKER. Is this Joker different than what we're used to? Absolutely. But it's all about him; not his stand-offs with Batman.
dagenspear
dagenspear - 7/24/2024, 12:27 AM
@McMurdo - Google says the kid who played him was 10 when they filmed the first movie.
McMurdo
McMurdo - 7/24/2024, 1:01 AM
@dagenspear - so what are we gonna have a 16 year old batmañ fighting crime.
Slotherin
Slotherin - 7/23/2024, 12:32 PM
He's one of the most grounded rogues so it makes sense to use him.
THEDARKKNIGHT1939
THEDARKKNIGHT1939 - 7/23/2024, 12:32 PM
Then it's really going to start feeling like the show Gotham.
lazlodaytona
lazlodaytona - 7/23/2024, 3:16 PM
@THEDARKKNIGHT1939 - I get the hate for Gotham, but once I fell in I liked it for whaqt it was. Plus, they'll never get a villain to play Victor Szasz as good as Anthony Carrigan. He was great in Barry and downright hilarious in GOTHAM.

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THEDARKKNIGHT1939
THEDARKKNIGHT1939 - 7/23/2024, 4:32 PM
@lazlodaytona - I liked it too once I accepted that it wasn't going to stick to the lore. I loved the atmosphere of the whole series. It was dark, twisted, and whimsical which I think was a perfect way to depict a crazy place like Gotham. I still found myself rolling my eyes at some of the creative decisions, but for the most part, it had cool storylines/character arcs, great acting, and I'd even go as far to say that it still has some of the best live action depictions of Batman's rogues.

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TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 7/23/2024, 12:41 PM
That’s cool though I see it being moreso just an Easter egg in the film then Harvey being an actual character but we’ll see…

Seems like Steve Coogan is playing some kind of interviewer/reporter so it would be cool if he was Jack Ryder (don’t think he would become Creeper but still).

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Anyway , Seems decent imo and better to me then the first one (which I didn’t care much for).
sheisthekey
sheisthekey - 7/23/2024, 12:41 PM
Please don't! we don't need Batman, this is a Joker Saga
lazlodaytona
lazlodaytona - 7/23/2024, 3:05 PM
@sheisthekey - 1000% agree with you. I love the character study with these films. Not the "saving the gal, Batman stand-offs" like usual. In a Batman film, you neither Batman or Joker will die. In the films with JOKER? Not surprising if Fleck ended up dying at some point. Or Harley. That's the fun of these elseworlds stories.
ModHaterSLADE
ModHaterSLADE - 7/23/2024, 12:43 PM
Rather they keep Batman out of this, he doesn't need to be tacked onto every Joker appearance.
lazlodaytona
lazlodaytona - 7/23/2024, 3:05 PM
@ModHaterSLADE - dead-on sir.
dragon316
dragon316 - 7/23/2024, 1:45 PM
Rather they stop after this one they got lucky after first one who knows after sequel
lazlodaytona
lazlodaytona - 7/23/2024, 3:08 PM
I'm kinda shocked they just randomly released this trailer right before DP&W have their film coming out. Maybe it's to attach it to the previews in theaters. Or just being random like Arthur.
Either way, I'm a little stunned. However, I really liked what I saw in the trailer.
dagenspear
dagenspear - 7/24/2024, 2:55 AM
@McMurdo - If it's the same actor. If not, that depends on the timeline of the movie. I could buy a ten year time jump, depending on the character of Arthur's age. I've wondered about Tom Bateman as an adult Bruce.
Radders
Radders - 7/24/2024, 8:53 AM
I wonder which Scorsese film they're going to rip off this time?
The fist one was fine but all through it I was distracted by its similarity to other movies

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