THE BATMAN 2: New Details About Why "VFX Heavy" Sequel Has Been Pushed To 2027 Possibly Revealed

THE BATMAN 2: New Details About Why "VFX Heavy" Sequel Has Been Pushed To 2027 Possibly Revealed

The Batman sequel's release date delay isn't sitting well with DC fans and we now have a few additional details about why the long-awaited movie has been pushed all the way back to 2027. Check it out...

By JoshWilding - Dec 28, 2024 01:12 AM EST
Filed Under: The Batman

Yesterday, the news broke that The Batman sequel - originally dated for 2025, remember - has been pushed from 2026 to 2027. Understandably, fans are disappointed by the decision and some are even convinced the movie will never see the light of day. 

That doesn't seem overly likely when The Batman grossed $772 million worldwide in 2022 or so soon after small screen spin-off The Penguin became one of the most-watched HBO TV shows ever. 

Stranger things have happened, though. 

While we know that last year's Hollywood strikes and Matt Reeves' slow writing have played a role in the delay, additional details have been shared by Deadline. According to the trade, "Production [now] isn’t scheduled to get started until late summer."

The movie is also described as "VFX heavy," a hint perhaps that the filmmaker has some particularly ambitious plans for his follow-up. 

Also of note is the fact The Hollywood Reporter has confirmed that the movie is no longer titled The Batman Part II. Instead, the sequel is officially "untitled" and we can't help but wonder whether it's getting a completely different name tied to whatever direction Reeves' story is currently headed in.

While we'd advise taking this with a pinch of salt, several online scoopers have also hinted that Reeves might be dealing with serious personal issues. We don't know what those are or whether it could be related to his or a loved one's health; however, many things are ultimately more important than making a movie.

In The Penguin, Batman's absence was undeniably distracting and, talking earlier this year, the filmmaker confirmed there were at least some discussions about a cameo. 

"Over the course of writing the season, we discussed many times whether or not there might be some cross-through that would feel earned," Reeves explained. "We tried a few different ideas conceptually, nothing that was ever written ultimately, but nothing seemed to quite gel in a way that felt earned."

Among the ideas considered was a scene with Batman showing up in front of Vic, Oz's right-hand man. "But even that ended up throwing things off too much," Reeves admitted. Showrunner Lauren LeFranc added, "We wanted our characters to be the predominant people that you're following in this show. Anything that started to detract from that wasn't servicing the type of show we wanted to do."

While the Bat-Signal is as close as The Penguin gets to teasing Batman, LeFranc confirmed it wss there "to launch into Matt's second film. I very much liked the idea of the Batman undercutting the strange, delusional scenario that Oz created for himself at the end, to merit all of his previous actions and to say, 'I finally made it.' And then for us to say, 'Maybe not. Maybe you haven't.'"

Reeves elaborated on that point by saying, "We're kind of flicking you at the end to say the story's not over. The idea that Oz and these characters could be on a collision course at some point with Batman, that's of course out there. So we wanted to leave you with a sense of that without overshadowing that this is really the completion of the story."

While the Court of Owls, The Joker, Mr. Freeze, and Clayface are all compelling possibilities, The Batman sequel's big bad might just be The Penguin (though Colin Farrell has suggested he'll only appear in "five or six" scenes). Still, who knows how much the story has evolved given how much time Reeves has spent working on it. 

We'll see, but the movie is now set to be released in theaters on October 1, 2027.

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Huskers
Huskers - 12/28/2024, 1:10 AM
They should’ve hired a writer. I mean seriously how hard is it to do a Batman movie, they practically shit money. To my knowledge the only one that wasn’t successful was Batman & Robin.
Taonrey
Taonrey - 12/28/2024, 7:39 AM
@Huskers - and even that one broke even and eventually made profit with physical media
Amaru
Amaru - 12/28/2024, 1:17 AM
@micvalpro - Doubt it.
JustAWaffle
JustAWaffle - 12/28/2024, 5:01 AM
@micvalpro - that’s what I want. But I don’t often get what I want.
Saintsinnister
Saintsinnister - 12/28/2024, 1:22 AM
What I don’t understand is that Reeves apparently had a trilogy in mind when he came up with this concept for the franchise. You would think that he was conceiving the story for the second movie while filming the first one. The whole story arc for all three movies should be vaguely developed when you pitch the first movie. If he can’t get the dialogue out he needs to hire writers to help. This amount of time between two Batman movies is lame.
TheJok3r
TheJok3r - 12/28/2024, 1:23 AM
@Saintsinnister - Having an outline is different than a full script. It's one thing to know what plot points A, B, & C are; it's another to get form one point to another.
AleSir19
AleSir19 - 12/28/2024, 5:09 AM
@Saintsinnister - Every writer or Even writer/director has his own process that is how art works gladly...

For instance, i am a really fast screenwriter i can writer an entire feature in 1 day or maybe a week, then spend a month or two, Even until un The middle of Production changing stuff right Before or in the middle of shooting.

From what i have seen Reeves is a really slow writer. He cant just write some stuff, he needs to know that is The stuff and that can take months or even years. I Guess he spends weeks just rewriting stuff and coming with New stuff and i even would wildly state he could be erasing stuff while he writes or reusing shit from other places of his own notebook of ideas or images. All while he desings The set pieces.

So yes, he is a slow writer, i have a friend, who is like him, she can take One year to come up with something.

With Reeves assistance i could have written The Batman in a Month, maybe 2 months, then he could have spend like 3 year toying with the screenplay if he wanted.

But like i say, every filmmaker has his own proccess...

For example i love a filmmaker calle Hong Sang Soo, and in the same time Reeves has been toying with this screenplay he has made like 5 films or maybe Even 6, so i hope we get to see the film soon...
Saintsinnister
Saintsinnister - 12/28/2024, 5:42 AM
@AleSir19 - I get all that. Filmmaking is one of the hardest things to do. The process of writing and directing on a franchise of this level of popularity makes the process even more challenging. Batman doesn’t have to be an art house melodrama though. Just adapt a popular comic arc with your own flair. Have some cool action sequences and have Batman do Batman shit while naturally growing as a character. The stage was set in the first movie. As an artist I understand, but as a fan I’m bummed out. I just want more Batman adventures in live action.
TheJok3r
TheJok3r - 12/28/2024, 1:22 AM
According to Bill Jett Ramey from Batman on Film; another HBO is planned to release sometime in 2026 to make the wait easier. As for the VFX heavy piece of news; that's very interesting. Considering this is taking place in Winter; we may finally get a good Mr. Freeze in live action.
ElJefe
ElJefe - 12/28/2024, 1:26 AM
The fact that Reeves is struggling to nail down this script, then goes and erases the title, sums up all of his problems.
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 12/28/2024, 5:57 AM
@ElJefe - thats not how that works..

Instead of just Part 2 , he might have come up with a title that fits the movie better in his mind.
ElJefe
ElJefe - 12/28/2024, 6:14 AM
@TheVisionary25 - I was just being funny, at least, I thought so.
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 12/28/2024, 6:56 AM
@ElJefe - oops sorry…

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SonOfAGif
SonOfAGif - 12/28/2024, 1:28 AM
I feel like Reeves is strong arming Warner Brothers. The longer he keeps the reigns on Batman the longer it takes the DCU to put Brave and the Bold in production.
sully
sully - 12/28/2024, 1:36 AM
Lol I always rag on Reeves for slow-walking these movies, but this is icing on the cake. This is beyond ridiculous. Dude seems like he's milking Warner Bros./DC for money while sitting on his ass and doing jack sh*t. I barely have any interest in this franchise whatsoever anymore and I'm confident I'm not the only one.
MarvelZombie616
MarvelZombie616 - 12/28/2024, 6:30 AM
@sully - You are right.
I don't care anymore.
Matchesz
Matchesz - 12/28/2024, 1:48 AM
I just hope it doesnt get cancelled, I really want a Reeves trilogy.
TheLobster
TheLobster - 12/28/2024, 4:13 AM
I echo the frustration here. Five years for a sequel sounds a bit much when you consider that Nolan only took 4 years to follow up TDK and during that time he made Inception.

However, TDKR mostly sucks ass (they should have recasted Joker at that point IMO) because Nolan had to rethink an entirely different film so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Se4M4NSt4ine
Se4M4NSt4ine - 12/28/2024, 5:18 AM
@TheLobster - I mean he made Inception after TDK, but everything else I agree with!
CerealKiller1
CerealKiller1 - 12/28/2024, 5:38 AM
@Se4M4NSt4ine - That’s what he said..?
NodrickStripson
NodrickStripson - 12/28/2024, 5:45 AM
@TheLobster - Nolan didn’t write The Dark Knight trilogy though. Goyer and Jonathan Nolan wrote the screenplays based off of a loose idea for a trilogy by Goyer and Christopher Nolan.

The thing I find interesting is that Reeves must surely have told WB what his concept was. That concept must be some kind of amazing for WB to happily wait this long and not yank him off and replace him with a faster writer.
TheJester187
TheJester187 - 12/28/2024, 4:22 AM
Like I been sayin film 2 & 3 with a 6 month break for cast and crew and get back at it! I believe it’s deeper things going on and prolly sets that need to be built and time placement for actors. But as much Batman source material that’s out there. It’s ya no reason this should be taking this long. I do appreciate Reeves for his commitment. It must be some darker force or powers that might not want this to come out cause how impactful it might be to society. Heath’s Joker still gets talked about to this day. Batman is the only character that can create this much controversy in all forms of media. I think Batman is more impactful than Superman.
Se4M4NSt4ine
Se4M4NSt4ine - 12/28/2024, 5:19 AM
Yeah… I mean at what stage if you’re Gunn do you start throwing a creative team at Reeves to help him get this over the line.
Titan417
Titan417 - 12/28/2024, 5:52 AM
Hopefully Gunn will go ahead and make his own Batman Movie. It’s a shame too. The Batman was an awesome flick but waiting 5-8 years for a sequel, naw I’ll lose interest for sure
Batmangina
Batmangina - 12/28/2024, 7:18 AM
James Gunn be like

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IAmAHoot
IAmAHoot - 12/28/2024, 7:41 AM
VFX heavy? The dude directed two movies where more than half the leads were apes.
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 12/28/2024, 7:50 AM
Honestly if they are still shooting next year as intended , it is likely less to do with Reeves writing speed since we don’t know how far into the script he is (he could almost be done and submit it within the next 2-3 months) and moreso as Gunn said it takes 2 years or so from pre-production to post on these big films so they want to give him the time he needs.

Plus if it is true that Reeves is also dealing with some personal matters then fair enough , I hope that works out.

Anyway hopefully this still happens since I’m a big fan of the first film aswell as The Penguin thus far!!.
bkmeijer1
bkmeijer1 - 12/28/2024, 7:51 AM
I'm starting to think this movie might actually be a two-parter. Writing or VFX should be no problem for Reeves, and otherwise Gunn can probably back him with a writer team.
BillyBatson1000
BillyBatson1000 - 12/28/2024, 8:39 AM
Some day, perhaps decades from now, we'll all be able to sit down and watch: The Batman, Penguin, The Batman 'Thanks For Waiting', Penguin 2 and whatever follows ...

And it will all fit neatly together.

Like that jigsaw you got from your aunt at Christmas, several years ago, that you keep under your bed, harvesting dust.
RealTurner
RealTurner - 12/28/2024, 9:11 AM
Penguin was great but Batman completely missing sucked and dragged it down significantly. At best it makes him look out of touch and insignificant; the Batman we saw in the movie would have been there when an entire crime family was wiped out, and hopefully would have worked out the pretty obvious way in which they were murdered LOL.

In what talk there has been of Batman II they mentioned "still having flooding in the streets," which wasn't seen in Penguin at all outside of "flasback TV" at the start, even in the poorest quarters, and never came up as a plot point. I can't see them being especially strongly connected and it will only get worse if they put out a Penguin season II out before Batman!
IronGenesis
IronGenesis - 12/28/2024, 9:27 AM
Ahhh…

So Reeves wants to make this his “Before” Trilogy.

Interesting.

🤷‍♂️.
THEDARKKNIGHT1939
THEDARKKNIGHT1939 - 12/28/2024, 1:05 PM
The VFX is for fake snow
ModHaterSLADE
ModHaterSLADE - 12/28/2024, 1:17 PM
Hope it's not for Freeze, he just doesn't work in a grounded universe, I'm hoping if anything it's Two-Face as the villain.
BatSignal
BatSignal - 12/28/2024, 2:20 PM
What??? Pattinson gonna be older than 40 by the time this movie comes out! they need to hurry up. kinda sick and tired of seeing old geezers play superheros in their prime tbh. hope they dont do another WW movie with Gal Gadot - shes practically 40 already!!!
RolandD
RolandD - 12/28/2024, 2:40 PM
It seems like his first movie was light on VFX so I am kind of surprised that this might be one reason for the delay. Obviously, he’s not opposed to using VFX and seen in his Planet of the Apes movies. I guess we’ll see.

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