The Dark Knight Director Christopher Nolan May Not Return For Another Sequel

The Dark Knight Director Christopher Nolan May Not Return For Another Sequel

Nolan cites "respect for the fans" as a possible reason to not make a third installment in the new Batman franchise.

By bsprecher - Dec 09, 2008 12:12 AM EST
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Despite scoring the top spot at the box office with the debut of each of his Batman films—Batman Begins and Batman: The Dark Knight—and generating nearly $1.5 billion in worldwide ticket sales, director Christopher Nolan is hesitant to commit to a third film, citing the dreaded "threequel curse" as a reason. Threequel films such as Pirates of the Caribbean: At World’s End, Spider-Man 3 and Shrek the Third, to name a few, have all been major disappointments.

Said Nolan:

"I don't know why they're hard to do. Maybe there's so much expectation to them. But I wouldn't want to do one if it weren't going to be as good as the first or second. That's not respectful to the fans."

Fans should not give up hope, however. Heath Ledger, who captivated and terrified audiences as the Joker, is expected to be nominated posthumously for a Best Supporting Actor nomination, and the Batman: The Dark Knight DVD sales are sure to reach record-breaking numbers, both of which may prompt the studio to make an enticing offer to Nolan.

"The worst thing you could do now that you've gotten the plane back in the air is mess up the landing," said Nolan.


Batman: The Dark Knight will be released on DVD and Blu-ray today and will be re-released in theaters following the Academy Award nominations on January 23rd.

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Bijous
Bijous - 12/9/2008, 11:21 AM
He's probably just a little burned out. And, from what I've heard of him, he's somewhat of a perfectionist, so he's probably just waiting for the perfect story.

Of course, holding out for more $$$ isn't improbable...
Shaman
Shaman - 12/9/2008, 11:54 AM
I sincerely think that DC needs to focus on a different Batman. Nolan not pushing for a third is a good thing. Leave his work up there on the piedestal where Tim Burton's work is and let's get on track at making a great DC superhero universe where "everybody knows there names" and then top it with a JLA movie.

Cheers.
Inohaku
Inohaku - 12/9/2008, 12:48 PM
I understand Nolan's concern, but it would suck if someone else picks up where he left off and ruins everything like Schumacher did.

I guess Batman can lay to rest for some years so DC can focus on Supes and others.
Shaman
Shaman - 12/9/2008, 1:00 PM
But the thing is that DC/WB does not need to wait on Batman and think of Superman. Goyer can write a Batman 3 script and Millar can write his Superman trilopy script at the same time. They get Nolan on Batman 3 and either Millar directs sups himself or they get Singer back on track which means that the production teams aren't the same either. I mean Marvel has just proven that it can be done and done extremely well. Why wait? Not to "rush" things just simply means to miss the boat. There is no logical reason to wait.
imandrew
imandrew - 12/9/2008, 1:07 PM
I think Nolan is skeptical of his involvment in a sequel because they want him to move in the direction of the JLA and he did not gear this story to go in that direction. The current Batman series is set in a universe where there really are no heroes and that is why Bruce Wayne felt he needed to become what he did, gearing that story into the JLA universe with many superheroes will be difficult and I think that Nolan is afraid that gearing the story in that direction will spoil the story he has created.
tybae
tybae - 12/9/2008, 1:37 PM
Say it ain't so, Nolan. The second one was better than the first. Nolan is an amazing director and both new Batman flicks are light years better than the Tim Burton flicks, sorry but Michael Keaton was a terrible Batman.

I hope Nolan does do a third Batman.
FrankGarret
FrankGarret - 12/9/2008, 2:34 PM
He'll be bac, I'm sure of it. He was saying much of the same in the year after Batman Begins came out.

Myself, I don't see how they can top TDK, and I don't think they need to. A third installment on par with Begins, or better, would make me more happy.
Shaman
Shaman - 12/9/2008, 2:44 PM
First of all, Keaton was a HELL of a lot better than Adam West, Val Kilmer and George Clooney. He was even just as good in Batman Returns than his first Batman movie where as Christian Bale wasn't as good in TDK as he was in Batman Begins... which says a lot.

Now, i totally understand Nolan when he says that he doesn't want to make the third one. And yes, i know he doesn't want to do the JLA thing either. Good show kid, you can step down then. Bring on Stephen Norrington of Frank Miller but for god's sake, don't give it to Goyer!!! Let him out of his cage to write the script but kick him right back in there before he grabs a camera!!!

IMANDREW, it's perfect that Batman's world was made without heroes because you gotta start somewhere! And, it's even more perfect to have finished TDK by posing as a murderer on the run... you following me here people??? That will grab Superman's attention (having the cops to incompetent to catch Batman) and that will give us the so much anticipated "World's Finest" movie that will kick off the DC universe series of superhero movies to finally bring us our wildest dreams... pum pum pum, Justice League of America with Batman, Superman, Wonder Woman, Green Lantern and the Flash. There is no possible reason why this can't be executed with GUSTO!!!
adamant877
adamant877 - 12/9/2008, 3:49 PM
I agree with you Shaman. There's too much potential to move forward with the franchise, and still be able to please both the original fanbase and all newcomers. If Nolan wants to carry forward with his gritty, realistic, noirish (if that's really a word) stylized feel, all he has to do is look no further than...
The Riddler!
I say take Edward Nigma, and instead of making him some kind of straight-laced, narcassistic prankster, turn him into a serious deranged serial killer! (Think "Zodiac") Now bring back Two-Face, put him in charge of the organized crime syndicate in Gotham, and make him the main "visual" antagonist of the film. Bring in Harleen Quinzel, a world expert in psychoanalysis, to aid the investigation into the Riddler killings, and at the end of the film she gets introduced to a lone figure in a padded cell, maniacal laughter ensues, and wait... Did I hear two voices laughing?
ScorpioEagle1
ScorpioEagle1 - 12/9/2008, 4:02 PM
This is just sick I can't believe this guuy doesn't want to step back up to the crap table and take a chance.. he's rolled 7's both times..
I think he should accept the challenge he'll get to take the lead on whatever Justice League movie comes to fruition based on his previous success..

However.. you have to wonder if he believes he can make Batman fit into JL Universe it seems that's what he's worried about. although I see it differently.. I think if he keeps Batman as he is the reluctant party member he'll be fine.. I don't think Batman not being aware of other hero's has to hurt Superman and Batman's involvement the criminals hadn't really threatened any place other than Gotham so just make the threat global and it necessitates his involvement. Case closed!
CrimsonCrisis
CrimsonCrisis - 12/9/2008, 5:16 PM
I dont wnat Nolan's Batman in JLA it would ruin him going from realistic situations to super powered beings is too much of a jump and it would be to campy.

lets just keep Nolan's bat man where he is. If Nolan doesnt want to make another leave it alone it ended in a good spot. If he decides to keep going bring in the Riddler, or maybe even Poison Ivy just make them darker and more realistic.
HarrisonBergeron
HarrisonBergeron - 12/9/2008, 8:53 PM
If Nolan doesn't want to do number 3 then get someone else to do it. His movie's were good, but he doesn't seem to be irreplaceable. I disagree with him and others who say that the new Batman wouldn't fit into the greater DC Universe. I think that if they were to put their heads together as Marvel has they could still put out a stellar product for JL utilizing Nolan's Batman. I think that 3 should be a transitional movie, choose a more fantastic villain, one that pushes the boundaries of Nolan's realistic world, but is still believable within it, maybe Mad Hatter. Then do Batman 4 as the intro to the DC Universe.

I think it would make a lot of fan boys pretty mad, but if they have to, just make Batman precede Superman. One of Nolan's reasons to stay away from JL is that there are no other heroes, and that is why BW became BM. Fine, have BM be the inspiration for Clark Kent to go Supes, sort of like how Green Arrow is doing on Smallville. Yes, it is wrong as far as the mythos goes, but at least we get a good JL movie.
Shadowelfz
Shadowelfz - 12/9/2008, 11:23 PM
The reason that the second and/ or third movies in many franchises are terrible is because either
-a) there is a change in writer, director and/or main leads (Xmen 3)
-b) The production and writing is rushed (Pirates of the carribean, Fantastic Four 2 and also Xmen 3) and/or
-c) Odd casting choices, actors reluctant to reprise roles, and or unlikely character development (Spiderman 3)

As long as Nolan is directing, Goyer is writing, and Bale is the lead I can't see how the 3rd movie will suddenly be bad unless they make it bad. Just because the 3rd 'might' not be as good as the second is no reason to bow out as a director. Finally, we have somebody making batman movies the way they should be made, and just because the next film might not be as good as the last is no reason to quit. Hell, as long as they are entertaining Im going to see them. And besides, I'd really like to see the Riddler in Nolans universe :)
HarrisonBergeron
HarrisonBergeron - 12/9/2008, 11:38 PM
Going with another villain that has been used already would be a bad decision IMO, especially with most people looking for reasons to brand it as another third installment failure. There are plenty of unfilmed villains that would be great in Nolan's universe. Scarface would fit in great with the mob element being so important in the new Batman. Killer Croc is another that could be used to transition into the fantastic elements of the DC Universe. Imagine Killer Croc in Nolan's Universe, his condition is supposed to be reality based, so it wouldn't be too far a reach.
Inohaku
Inohaku - 12/10/2008, 12:21 AM
Well, Nolan said Two-Face IS dead. So that's out of the question. Since he started from scratch, he can bring back any villain he wants, whether we've already seen them on the big screen or not. In fact, he just brought back the Joker, a feat no one else would dare do. And how he did it!
DCMarvelComics
DCMarvelComics - 12/10/2008, 6:32 AM
I Don't Care How Long It Takes As Long It's Good As The First One And Has The Riddler.
GUNSMITH
GUNSMITH - 12/10/2008, 7:43 AM
NOLAN FILMS, YOU CAN TELL HE REALLY TAKES HIS IDEAS AND VIEWS ON THE PRACTICAL, AND TAKES THINGS APART AND PUTS IT TOGETHER TO FIGURE OUT WHAT WORKS OR WHAT DOESNT. ID LOVE TO SEE JOKER AGAIN,TRUE LEDGER IS DEAD,BUT THE SHOW MUST GO ON.IT WOULD BE COOL TO SEE A CLASHING OF VILLAINS,MAYBE THE JOKER AND RIDDLER,MAYBE JOKER FEELS RIDDLER IS STEALING HIS THUNDER AND WAR ENSUES,THEY ARE BOTH TWISTED GENIUSES AND BATMAN CAUGHT IN THE MIDDLE MAKES FOR AN AWSOME STORY,MAYBE RACHEL DAWES DIDNT DIE?..JOKER STATED YOU ALWAYS HAVE AN ACE IN THE HOLE,PLUS HE LIKE CHANGING PEOPLE,LIKE HE DID DENT, HARLEY QUINN? A DESTROYED LOVE TWISTED EVIL,MAKES A MORE DARKER BROODING HERO..NOLAN HAS IT..THE MARBEL BLOCK IS THERE, HE JUST NEEDS TO CHIP AWAY ALL THE PIECES HE DOESNT NEED TO MAKE ANOTHER MASTERPIECE....
Shaman
Shaman - 12/10/2008, 7:50 AM
You guys have really good ideas here but the best one so far was adamant877's script idea! Riddler has to be part of the next one and Johnny Depp has to play him in a way that has never been played out before. In other words, a stellar performance that would equal Ledger's.

And i wasn't saying that Batman could serve as an inspiration for Superman to put on the cape. I'm saying, everybody wants a Superman reboot in a darker fashion well... it doesn't get any better than Nolan's anti-hero universe. He could start off leaving Ma Kent in Smallville to go work in Metropolis but when he's part of the News world, he quickly learns of this vigilante turned murderer over night that the police can't seem to get their hands on, terrorising the city left and right. And so he goes to Gotham to report the news as Clark Kent however spending most of his time as Superman trying to catch Batman. Then after they fight to near death(as per the asylum script that was made for the world's finest movie in 2002) Superman actually learns what Batman is actually doing and that is trying to prove that RIDDLER is the one behind the terrorism and that Batman is trying secretly to stop him all while evading the police. Then they go after the Riddler together, that seems to out-wit them the whole way till the end. But here's the catch, Riddler seems to have a secret individual funding him... the President... Lex Luther. Terrorism is the best thing to get out of a recession after all. And with all that you incorporate Adamant's idea about Harley Quinn and finish the movie like he said!!!

See! There is no need for a 3rd or a 4th Batman movie. What we need is World's Finest, followed by Wonder Woman(including a Batman/Superman subtle tie-in), followed by Green Lantern(with a Wonder Woman subtle tie-in as well as a Darkseid in the background kinda thing), followed by The Justice League movie that would also be The Flash's origins and Darkseid as the main Villain!

That's how ya do it! Killer croc would suck on the big screen as much as Bizzarro or Mr. Mxtlpx(or whatever) would. If we go into a "serious" and gritty world vision, these guys don't have a leg to stand on.
Shaman
Shaman - 12/10/2008, 8:50 AM
Hmmmmm... mabe. He could be just a tool in the beginning or mabe Riddler's pet but i don't see him being a main antagonist.
ryanallen
ryanallen - 12/10/2008, 9:29 AM
He shouldn't let other people's failures deter him from another great Batman film, he should just learn from their mistakes and come up with a great story, everything will be alright.
ryanallen
ryanallen - 12/10/2008, 9:33 AM
He shouldn't let other people's failures deter him from another great Batman film, he should just learn from their mistakes and continue the series.
Inohaku
Inohaku - 12/10/2008, 12:01 PM
Wow I'm liking all these ideas. Nolan should feel totally confident about having Depp play The Riddler. And Shaman, don't underestimate those nasty little villains hehe! I hear what you say, but as a secondary villain Mr. Mxtylp (however it's spelled) could actually be well done, if they make him a really creepy, horrible assassin.
IonParallax
IonParallax - 12/10/2008, 12:42 PM
Killer Corc would be GREAT. His disease is hyperkeratosis - a thickening of the stratum corneum, the upper most layer of the epidermis. Which is why he has "scales", his mother abandoned him in the sewers and left him to rot in all of the muck, mire, and radioactive waste that is IN Gotham sewer systems. Hence why he is super strong. PLUS, he has Cranes weaponized fear toxin flowing through his veins, which means, when he bites someone, there goes the fear.


Which is cool, because we've seen Scarecrow...So that part is ALREADY in this Batman's world. I think Killer Croc and The Riddler would make excellent additions. And, yes, Killer Croc does lend the fantastical transition into more superpowered beings throughout the world...I mean, Killer Croc kicks Batmans ASS and it's reported in the newspaper and such, since Clark is only 1 state over in Deleware, he comes in too help out...C'moooon
Shaman
Shaman - 12/10/2008, 1:48 PM
I have to disagree with you ION, you can't start off the "world's finest" concept with the buddy buddy shtick between Sups and Bats. They need to go at it!
Bijous
Bijous - 12/10/2008, 5:57 PM
He'll be back! He just needs a little down time and a $$$ incentive.

I would love to see Depp join the pantheon; however, he's too "wimpy" to be a threat to Batman. Batman needs to hit things...people, villains, monsters...
Bijous
Bijous - 12/10/2008, 5:57 PM
He'll be back! He just needs a little down time and a $$$ incentive.

I would love to see Depp join the pantheon; however, he's too "wimpy" to be a threat to Batman. Batman needs to hit things...people, villains, monsters...
Bijous
Bijous - 12/10/2008, 5:57 PM
He'll be back! He just needs a little down time and a $$$ incentive.

I would love to see Depp join the pantheon; however, he's too "wimpy" to be a threat to Batman. Batman needs to hit things...people, villains, monsters...
Bijous
Bijous - 12/10/2008, 5:57 PM
He'll be back! He just needs a little down time and a $$$ incentive.

I would love to see Depp join the pantheon; however, he's too "wimpy" to be a threat to Batman. Batman needs to hit things...people, villains, monsters...
Bijous
Bijous - 12/10/2008, 5:58 PM
He'll be back! He just needs a little down time and a $$$ incentive.

I would love to see Depp join the pantheon; however, he's too "wimpy" to be a threat to Batman. Batman needs to hit things...people, villains, monsters...
Bijous
Bijous - 12/10/2008, 5:58 PM
He'll be back! He just needs a little down time and a $$$ incentive.

I would love to see Depp join the pantheon; however, he's too "wimpy" to be a threat to Batman. Batman needs to hit things...people, villains, monsters...
Bijous
Bijous - 12/10/2008, 6:00 PM
He'll be back! He just needs a little down time and a $$$ incentive.

I would love to see Depp join the pantheon; however, he's too "wimpy" to be a threat to Batman. Batman needs to hit things...people, villains, monsters...
GUNSMITH
GUNSMITH - 12/10/2008, 7:13 PM
MULTIPLE VILLANS IN BATMAN MOVIES COULD BE BAD, TOO MANY OR TOO MUCH MIGHT BE OVERWHELMING AND COMPLICATE THE STORIES, I THINK THEY SHOULD STICK TO ONE VILLAIN AT A TIME BUT THEN AGAIN SINCE SOME VILLAINS LIKE THE SCARECROW, THE JOKER HAVE ALREADY BEEN FLESHED OUT TO AN EXTENT, FANDOM WILL LOVE TO WATCH THEM CO-EXISTING IN THE MOVIE OR AT ODDS WITH EACH OTHER..I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE RIDDLER, KILLER CROC,MR FREEZE, POISON IVY, CLAYFACE, THE PENGUIN, BANE,..NOT ALL AT ONCE, JUST ONE BULLET AT A TIME
Peacecraftepyon
Peacecraftepyon - 12/11/2008, 12:00 AM
1.as long as we don't see five villain's in one movie with a jumbled and confusing plot/story

2.Wayne Manor must be rebuilt or at least say it's almost finished then catch a glimpse of it completely rebuilt at the end of the movie.AND see the rebuilt batcave to give us a sense of anxiety,paranoia,and excitement all wrapped up in a big box.

3.NO ROBIN!

4.Other than that Christopher Nolan has no reason to be skeptical.

Personally I would love to see a Batman Movie with the Mad Hatter or a Riddler that is not Jim Carrey. Not sure how they would pull off the mind control stuff with MH but Mr.Nolan could make a damn good riddler out of someone.I would say I would like to see Clayface but Nolan's Interpretation of Batman just wouldn't work with a clayface story,There's no way it could be believeable. For Example Ra al Ghul was a title in Batman Begins,he wasn't immortal.so yeah....No Robin,Just one villian,new batcave,new Wayne Manor...New Batmobile or Bat vehical...It will be great!
HarrisonBergeron
HarrisonBergeron - 12/11/2008, 12:25 AM
FYI in case you guys didn't catch it Killer Croc does sort of exist in Nolan's Universe, sort of. "Gotham Knight" the third animated DC flick, is supposed to bridge the gap between "Batman Begins" and "The Dark Knight". Not Nolan's doing, but it is what it is.

The Nolan movies have two villains per, even if the next one does not have Croc I think it should have a brute force villain, one that can throw Batman around, one that charges him head on and still wins. Other than Croc and Bane(should not be used again, yet) I can't think of any. Are there any others? My BM knowledge is strictly cartoon based.
Shaman
Shaman - 12/11/2008, 7:25 AM
Harrison, i got your "instopable force" charging head on at Batman, it's called SUPERMAN!!!

As for the Batmobile, that's something they need to put in the next film. The police tirelessy trying to get Batman but what they have as a lead is the broke down batmobile in the underground road. By cracking it open they might just find that... "well looky here, Wayne Enterprises."

So by reading all of our ideas here, they have more than enough material to work on for the next one to be great! But they don't care about what we have to say so only time will tell.
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