BLACK PANTHER: WAKANDA FOREVER Spoilers - Is Doctor Doom In The Movie After Months Of Rumors?

BLACK PANTHER: WAKANDA FOREVER Spoilers - Is Doctor Doom In The Movie After Months Of Rumors?

We've endured months of speculation and rumours about Doctor Doom's possible MCU debut in Black Panther: Wakanda Forever, but does he appear - or even get a mention - in the sequel? Find out right here...

By JoshWilding - Nov 11, 2022 10:11 AM EST

For months, rumours have persisted that Doctor Doom would make his Marvel Cinematic Universe debut in Black Panther: Wakanda Forever. It was said Latveria's ruler would appear either at the very end of the movie or in a post-credits scene, with the reveal that he had been the one pulling the strings to orchestrate the war between Wakanda and Talokan. 

We also heard that the scene had been shot with a stand-in, with Ryan Gosling and Giancarlo Esposito supposedly among the possibilities for who could voice the Fantastic Four villain.

A few weeks ago, some online scoopers started claiming Doom's appearance had been cut.

However, reports from the Black Panther: Wakanda Forever premiere that the sequel had only one post-credits scene led to speculation there might be a surprise in store for moviegoers (hiding it from critics would be a good way to avoid it being spoiled after what happened with Eros and Hercules). 

So, is Doctor Doom in Black Panther: Wakanda Forever? The answer, unfortunately, is no

Watching the sequel - you can check out our review by clicking here - it's hard to imagine how Doom could have ever been tied into the wider story, so we're guessing those rumours were bogus. While T'Challa and Shuri have a history with Victor in the comic books, DoomWar is more likely to be a story that's adapted for a future movie than a random post-credits tease. 

When we will see the villain remains to be seen, though it has recently been reported that he'll first appear in Fantastic Four's post-credits scene. After taking centre stage in all the previous movies revolving around Marvel's First Family, it makes sense to hold off and reboot Doom in a way that can make him a credible threat to both them and the wider MCU. 

Black Panther: Wakanda Forever is now playing in theaters.

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CorndogBurglar
CorndogBurglar - 11/11/2022, 10:43 AM
Just a rumor that sprang up based on the idea that outside of F4, something with Namor playing the antagonist would make a lot of sense for him to appear in, given the fact that they've teamed up before in the comics.
DPSNUMBER1
DPSNUMBER1 - 11/11/2022, 11:01 AM
@CorndogBurglar - But there was a picture of Him that looked pretty real. Probably it was a very well made Hoax or it was for another project, but in reality it wouldn't make much sense for him to debut here.

Fogs
Fogs - 11/11/2022, 12:00 PM
@CorndogBurglar - The very same "unreliable scoopers" Josh has been bashing got 100% right about every minor story detail since Spider-Man NWH.
I rather believe Doom was to be included and was removed according to their descriptions than Josh's opinion on the matter.
Fogs
Fogs - 11/11/2022, 12:25 PM
And if they show Doom was behind the invasion in the future (probably when the casting is done) some will call it "retcon" or "coincidence".

Pff.
OmegaDaGrodd
OmegaDaGrodd - 11/11/2022, 10:43 AM
Was so happy we weren't getting some thematic switcheroo where we learned it was Doom or Atuma pulling the strings. Namor is a ruthless enough character that this could be all on him
NoobNoob
NoobNoob - 11/11/2022, 2:46 PM
@OmegaDaGrodd - for what i heard, the rumor related to doom was that the ship that Namor attacked was an latverian ship and Doom would appear in the after credits talking about that incident..but it was a just a bunch of nonsense and rumors
MCUKnight11
MCUKnight11 - 11/11/2022, 10:46 AM
Better that he wasn't. Too much emotional whiplash and could've taken away from the beauty of the film itself and how it honored Chadwick.
karazorel
karazorel - 11/11/2022, 10:47 AM
Off topic but news has just come out that Kevin Conroy has past away.
VictorAlonzo
VictorAlonzo - 11/11/2022, 10:58 AM
@karazorel - Batman has officially lost his voice. Damn...
Matador
Matador - 11/11/2022, 10:59 AM
@karazorel - WTF?!
noahthegrand
noahthegrand - 11/11/2022, 10:51 AM
I really wanted it to happen, Doom is one of my all time favorite villains, but I think the movie stands on its own without him. I am so excited to see him when he does show up though. We need him for Secret Wars
Matchesz
Matchesz - 11/11/2022, 11:01 AM
If they were smart they would have doom be the cause behind T’challa’s illness. Solidify him as a major threat by having him take out a major hero
ShimmyShimmyYA
ShimmyShimmyYA - 11/11/2022, 11:09 AM
@Matchesz -
Cap1
Cap1 - 11/11/2022, 12:15 PM
It is toooo funny that Josh linked his own review as the sites review instead of Ror’s which came first and is written with real competency. A great bit
99OPTIMISTPRIME
99OPTIMISTPRIME - 11/11/2022, 12:16 PM
Missed opportunity. Just based off the script, it would've made sense for him to have shown up, or at least be heavily alluded to. Which I guess is why the rumor existed for so long.🤣
MILESSPIDERMAN
MILESSPIDERMAN - 11/11/2022, 12:28 PM
doom is boring. good he was not this .this film is about black panther not doom
Fogs
Fogs - 11/11/2022, 2:01 PM
@MILESSPIDERMAN - "Doom is boring"

K den
marvel72
marvel72 - 11/11/2022, 5:15 PM
@MILESSPIDERMAN -

NegativeNerd
NegativeNerd - 11/11/2022, 12:53 PM
I've noticed the scoopers have been letting a lot of people down lately lol.
Fogs
Fogs - 11/11/2022, 2:02 PM
@NegativeNerd - How? I knew the whole BP2 story to the minimum details for about a month now.
NegativeNerd
NegativeNerd - 11/13/2022, 8:21 PM
@Fogs - I’m specifically going by comments I’ve seen. There were also details of Doom, apparently. But we all know how that worked out. Not to mention, Multiverse of Madness.
MrDandy
MrDandy - 11/11/2022, 1:51 PM
I still kind of wish he was in an end stinger. Wakanda Forever is setting up Wakanda for conflict with the outside world and Teaming up with Namor against Latveria sounds like the most logical next step.
marvel72
marvel72 - 11/11/2022, 2:52 PM
Easier than an article, just a question would have done.

Is Doctor Doom in Wakanda Forever? No.
SummersEssex
SummersEssex - 11/12/2022, 12:57 AM
Movie was great, and good for them for letting it be it’s own movie without meaninglessly teasing the next film.

Although, a mention of Latveria from Val could have been snuck in.
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