Otherside's in depth look at Captain America: The First Avenger TV Spot

Otherside's in depth look at Captain America: The First Avenger TV Spot

Come look at the things I've uncovered and what I think of the Super bowl TV spot!

Editorial Opinion
By superotherside - Feb 07, 2011 10:02 AM EST

Okay, personally I like the TV Spot... it showed Cap in what seems to be some awesome action scenes, gave us a short look of how he becomes Captain America, and let us look at the tone of the film.

The one thing that I'm try to do is not get my hopes up too high for the film. I continue to not be totally convinced of Chris Evens as Captain America, he looks great in the suit, and I have to admit he does look like Steve Rogers... but is he Steve? Or maybe he's more Johnny Storm... I really don't know... it just depends on how it plays out. A big thing to me since he did play Johnny Storm in the Fumbling Four (joke), I don't want to see his Johnny personality in the film at all! In the spot this scene slightly reminded me of Johnny...

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Hopefully, it won't when I watch the movie... and at least we don't get a "let's get these pants off, and fly some planes," scene from this spot, and hopefully not from the movie.

Okay, now I think I've uncovered/figured out some of how the plot would go and how certain scenes would go.

The movie will start out having someone looking for Cap and finding him in modern day, and then go back in time to tell the story. For about a fifth of the film I think Steve will be short and scrawny explaining to the general audience how he got to be Capitan America. To make a long story short, Dr. Abraham Erskine will be killed and Steve still not use to being so athletic, will foil Heinz Kruger, who killed Dr. Erskine.

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Not knowing what to do with him the army will put him into the USO. After getting out of that he will go with several Howling Commandos to rescue Cap's pal Bucky Barns. Peggy, and Steve will go to the Stark expo to get Howard Stark's updated Captain America suit and shield.

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After they rescue Bucky, Cap gets a new outfit from Howard Stark.
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Next, Cap, and several Howling Commandos will attack, a Nazi/Hydra base and have
a super epic fight scenes.

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Cap seems to go off by him self and take on the several Hydra agents.

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Now here is where it gets interesting, it seems that what I think to be some of
Arnim Zola's robots fight Cap

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and get him into what seems to be a flaming prison.

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It's probable that Cap will get out of it by doing his classic shield throw, and take down Zola's flame throwing robots. These pics are probably right after this catching his shield:

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Finally, at some point we'll get a reveal of the Red Skull

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and a Captain America Red Skull fight.

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At the end Captain America will try to stop a missile but Bucky will shove him off and seemingly sacrifice is life for Cap's. Steve will be hurled into the freezing waters of the North Atlantic. And thus bringing us back to modern day where they found Captain America.

End.

I don't have any official info but I think that may be a possible outline for Captain America: The First Avenger.

Oh, and I'm sure people are going to ask this so I'm just going to explain this one point now...

Why do I think that these flame throwing guys are robots?

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Well, three things:
1. Arnim Zola is confirmed to the film and it would make sense that he made some robots.
2. The flame throwing guys look a lot different then the regular Hydra agents, and so may be just some Hydra robots instead.
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3. I doubt that they would let someone in a Captain America film come up with basically, Iron Man technology decades before Iron Man was ever born.

So they are most likely robots... which is cool with me because Arnim Zola in the comics did come up with robots:
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So what do you think? Am I right? Or wrong about this? Share what you think in the comments below!
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Orphix
Orphix - 2/7/2011, 11:43 AM
Going by Stanley Tucci's accent I am guessing erskine is german too - so I would also surmise that Zola and Erskine are old time work collegues.

Then one signed up with the US Army and the other with HYDRA.

Maybe Stark is also linked somewhere as well seeing as some of those flaming throwing dudes have more than a passing resemblance to Ironmmans Mk 1 suit. Maybe HYDRA stole some of his blueprints? And Tony had seen some stuff when he was growing up and took that as inspiration when he was held hostage?
superotherside
superotherside - 2/7/2011, 11:46 AM
@KidSombie ummmm... how does the movie look sick and and if it does to you then why are you excited about it? yes, zola he created genetic monsters... but i didn't see any in the tv spot so i didn't mention it... and i'm not sure if they'd do that for this film... they could be just heavy duty suits but idk... it just depends... still i bet they are made by zola!

btw guys how do you think the red skull got his face like that... i mean it doesn't look burnt or anything... his nose is basically gone, so how did that happen? maybe zola made a super solider formula but it didn't work as well as cap's, so it messed up his face? idk what do u guys think?
superotherside
superotherside - 2/7/2011, 11:48 AM
@Orphix you may have hit it! wow that really could be... that would make sense... but idk if they would do that or not... as why wouldn't stark make suits like that before iron man?
superotherside
superotherside - 2/7/2011, 11:49 AM
@teabag i didn't know that sick was supposed to mean great oh well... that's kinda weird but what ever...
Imtooldforthis
Imtooldforthis - 2/7/2011, 11:59 AM
I can' take credit for what someone else pointed out, but in the scene with Cap fighting Red Skull, he's wearing the USO uniform, which mean they tangle early in the movie, or early in his career as Captain America. I'm not going to argue with you about the fire-shooting robots, but I think those are agents in flame resistant suits.
superotherside
superotherside - 2/7/2011, 12:06 PM
@Imtooldforthis i didn't say when he'd fight the red skull now did I i just said "at some point"... but he does fight him in his new costume at some point because of this pic:
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also about the suits/robots idk they might be suits or robots... but one thing for sure is we'll all find out on July 22!
superotherside
superotherside - 2/7/2011, 12:21 PM
guys what makes all of you think this is his USO costume?
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not saying that it isn't but you can't even hardly see the costume besides the hat... and it could be the helmet or the traditional mask, and it looks like to me that they are in some kind of hanger thing... so idk

to me it looks more like this costume:
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but then the area around it looks more like this to me:Photobucket
superotherside
superotherside - 2/7/2011, 12:56 PM
@teabag source? i never knew that... i thought he first had the USO costume, then a WW2 costume that is just has a shirt with a star on it, has a typical blue helmet with an A on it, and has the triangle shield, then he gets a costume update from Howard Stark...

btw to support u guy's theory on howard stark making the exo-suits, and hydra stealing some of the tech...
lg_optimus

Iron Man - Hot Toys - Mark 1

the hydra robots/agentsinsuits have flame throwers and mark 1 iron man suit has flame throwers... and the flame throwers look similar in design...

so it could be weather if they are robots or agents in suits, that hydra did steal the tech from stark...
Exiles
Exiles - 2/7/2011, 1:31 PM
there is no stark industries at this point howard stark is captain america's Q. about the scene with the shield where peggy shoots at him that was totally the opposite of how johnny storm would react, storm would probably start throwing the [frick]ing shield around not ask how it looked, honestly don't know how you came to that judgement it was only a couple of seconds. the hydra goons are guys in armour with flamor throwers its that simple. Also I remember reading that Hydra uses the cosmic cube as a power source for all its tech or is attempting to use it as power source. Anyways it looked better then I thought it would
SuperHamm
SuperHamm - 2/7/2011, 2:02 PM
Why must you knuckleheads analyze every nook n cranny of every frame. The scene with him fighting Red Skull he is in full Capt gear, it's not his USO uniform, did you not watch the trailer a gazillion times?

Full Capt gear and he's after Red Skull. Now can you dig that, suuuuckaaaaa!
Orphix
Orphix - 2/7/2011, 2:14 PM
Exiles @ There is quite a strong resembalance between the two designs of the HYDRA goons and Ironman Mk 1. Its not a big leap to imagine that HYDRA and Howard Stark inspire one another with their technology.

And then Tony remembers seeing such designs when growing up and uses them as a basic template for his own 'escape suit' in Ironman.

Zola, Erskine and Howard could easily all be working in unison on things before the war breaks out.
SmokinIndo
SmokinIndo - 2/7/2011, 6:36 PM
CapWriter
CapWriter - 2/7/2011, 8:17 PM
My ONLY concern is that this film ends up looking too glossy, too squeaky clean and shiny. I like the gritty, dirty look of the outdoor scenes, but everything indoors looks a bit too CGI heavy. Like that scene where Cap walks in some large doors with the Howlers behind him, the background looks so fake ... a lot like the newest Indiana Jones movie, way too much CGI, not enough real environments and practical sets. Remember what made the original Star Wars great: Lucas insisted on a "used universe" where things looked worn in, used and grimy if necessary.

Other than that, I'm good to go.
superotherside
superotherside - 2/7/2011, 8:21 PM
@Orphix i've got to say you may have something there again!

everyone else that has commented after my last comment honestly if u guys didn't want to know some of this stuff and have some CBMers argue this stuff out why did you even look at this article! duh...
superotherside
superotherside - 2/7/2011, 9:14 PM
@CapWriter yeah, they need to fix up little steve rogers too... as in this pic his head looks way too big and unreal:
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but i'm sure they haven't finished all the CGI stuff yet... and that it'll look better with the finished product! but it's a whole lot better than the GL trailer! and it's only a tv spot! nuff said!
superotherside
superotherside - 2/7/2011, 9:22 PM
@Exiles btw again don't get me wrong i'm looking forward to Captain America: The First Avenger and i said that, "Hopefully, it won't when I watch the movie... and at least we don't get a "let's get these pants off, and fly some planes," scene from this spot, and hopefully not from the movie." meaning there is probably nothing wrong with the scene, it's just the way he looked reminded me of johnny and the fact that there was a slight joke in it again reminded me of johnny, i probably won't have a problem with this scene once i see the film, and i don't really have too much of a problem now... i just was saying that because that scene reminded me slightly of johnny and i was explaining that i hoped that there where no other scenes that would even slightly remind me... and i'm still cool with the scene even if it reminds me of johnny, just i don't want a scene that is worse... but i doubt there will be... hopefully cap will be awesome! and blow all of our helmets off! ;)
Imtooldforthis
Imtooldforthis - 2/7/2011, 10:02 PM
From @otherside
"everyone else that has commented after my last comment honestly if u guys didn't want to know some of this stuff and have some CBMers argue this stuff out why did you even look at this article! duh..."

Please tell me you're under 16, if so you're argument is understandable, you seem way to argumentative about a plot you IMAGINE will be in the movie, I can't argue with you, about stuff I don't know, in a movie I haven't seen, you're tag-line, states an in-depth look at the 30 second trailer, but you're article gives us you're OPINION of how the plot will play out, and there is nothing wrong with that, but don't get snappy with people because they don't agree with what you THINK will be in the movie.
Coldblood6
Coldblood6 - 2/8/2011, 3:53 AM
Throughout the Thor production we have heard a lot of little insider info that always seemed positive.

Does anyone know if the same can be said of CA???
superotherside
superotherside - 2/8/2011, 4:32 AM
@Imtooldforthis obviously your display name is true... why did i get slightly snappy with those guys up there? oh they got snappy at me... obveously acording to your theory that i'm under 16 grif, leee777, and others must all be this age too! ok, if you don't already understand this i'm going to spell it out for you: this article is about what i THINK! then others told me what they thought and when they were nice about it i even agreed that they may be right! "also about the suits/robots idk they might be suits or robots... but one thing for sure is we'll all find out on July 22!" does that sound like arguing to you? i'm honestly not trying to pick arguments with anyone, but evidently not everyone else had the same idea i had: "here is no stark industries at this point howard stark is captain america's Q. about the scene with the shield where peggy shoots at him that was totally the opposite of how johnny storm would react, storm would probably start throwing the [frick]ing shield around not ask how it looked, honestly don't know how you came to that judgement it was only a couple of seconds. the hydra goons are guys in armour with flamor throwers its that simple. Also I remember reading that Hydra uses the cosmic cube as a power source for all its tech or is attempting to use it as power source. Anyways it looked better then I thought it would" this guy was pretty rude to me i was only explaining something very simple so and i said that this was my OPINION! and that it probably wasn't based on FACT! it just seemed that way to me... also this guy, "Why must you knuckleheads analyze every nook n cranny of every frame. The scene with him fighting Red Skull he is in full Capt gear, it's not his USO uniform, did you not watch the trailer a gazillion times?

Full Capt gear and he's after Red Skull. Now can you dig that, suuuuckaaaaa!"
wow, it seems i wasn't the guy that started any arguments! but when someone else wants them i finish them! remember i'm not trying to be rude ok? this is my OPINION and what I THINK might happen... if you didn't want to hear my OPINION or what I THINK might happen then you shouldn't have clicked this article! just like the above guys!

@Coldblood6 idk... some but not as much but i think the movie will still be awesome!
Imtooldforthis
Imtooldforthis - 2/8/2011, 11:15 AM
Now that I think about it, I guess I owe you an apology, concerning the whole I hope you're under 16 stuff, love of comics is ageless, and everyone's opinion, right(me) or wrong(you) should be respected, so let's agree to disagree and move on.

And before you get all bent out of shape, the whole me and you comment is a joke.
superotherside
superotherside - 2/8/2011, 2:22 PM
@Imtooldforthis i agree comics are ageless and it is everyone's opinion of how they describe their favorite characters... i really mean this, thank you for the apology it shows that you are a bigger person than a lot of people on this site... and don't worry i don't get bent out of shape very often... (btw lol at the joke) ;) i wasn't even bent out of shape up there but i was slightly wondering why everyone jumped on me... but thank you for replying and hopefully we can continue respecting everyones different opinions... ;)
Wadey09
Wadey09 - 2/8/2011, 3:00 PM
interesting theory about the whole robotics idea. that would be an interesting plot device but i think it would be easier for the audience to swallow the whole low tech Iron Man. althoug it would be cool to see Arnim Zola create some cool bots in future Cap sequels!
Jackwagon
Jackwagon - 2/8/2011, 3:23 PM
Well, other than all the gray straps (which should be military green imo) my concern lies with the Skulls origin. In the beginning he's wearing a Red Skull Mask. It wasn't until the nineties (issue 350 to be exact) that he accidentally sprays himself with the red dust of death to permanently change his skin color. So, that being said. I'm hoping that they are not reusing his origin story from the ninties movie (albiet, this time he's actually german and NOT italian) with super strength. I was a little confused and concerned after reading the first issue of "First Vengence". I'm hoping that after Erskines defection, Arnim takes up whats left of his experiments and mean ole Johanne pulls a Norman Osborne and guineas on himself. Or maybe he accidentally sprays himself with the dust of death in the beginning, I don't know. So far we have already seen three different side effects to the "SSS" (Steve, Banner and Bronski). Does anyone have an idea when the second issue comes out? It's supposed to go into more detail about his origin, I'm told.
superotherside
superotherside - 2/8/2011, 9:22 PM
@Wadey09 not sure that it would be easier to swallow a low tech iron man because, for instance back in WW2 they had several androids in fiction, and then today we have only started to tap the uses of exoskeleton suits, in fact zola him self created (in the comics) an android version of him self and copied his brain patterns to the androids thus always having a spare android he could be basically immortal, personally this sounds silly to me but i think he should control a similar android robot which would resemble his classic self, but have it just as a R/C robot, what i was thinking was that those where just minions of his R/C robot... now that's what i think they should do although i do like u guy's idea about saying zola, Erskine, and howard stark may have invented some of tony's tech but couldn't find any way to power it accept fragments of the cosmic cube... but to me it seems far-fetched but that's probably just me! also do you think zola should live to modern times, as (to me) it would be hard for me to suspend reality that far... but idk...

@Jakwagon idk have to wait till it comes out! ;)

btw all u guys thanks 4 sharing ur comments especially the last two as this article was loooooooow on the list of editorials now... i enjoyed all u guy's thoughts and hope you enjoyed mine! ;) cap can't come soon enough! bring on the full trailer marvel!
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