The Joker's Real Name Seemingly Revealed In The Pages Of DC's FLASHPOINT BEYOND #5

The Joker's Real Name Seemingly Revealed In The Pages Of DC's FLASHPOINT BEYOND #5

We may finally have an answer to one of the biggest mysteries in all of comic books. In the pages of Flashpoint Beyond issue #5, iconic Batman villain The Joker's real name is seemingly revealed...

By MarkCassidy - Sep 06, 2022 02:09 PM EST
Filed Under: DC Comics
Source: Via CBR

Although the character has been named in other mediums (Jack Napier in Tim Burton's Batman, for example), The Joker's true name has always been a mystery in the comic books... until now.

In this week's Flashpoint Beyond #5, the iconic Batman villain's name is revealed to be Jack Oswald White.

In the previous issue, it comes to light that the mysterious Clockwork Killer is none other than Martha Wayne, who had taken the mantle of the Joker in the Flashpoint Universe. The Dark Knight (Thomas Wayne) confronts his wife in Arkham Asylum, where she admits to killing Psycho Pirate after he told her some mind-blowing pieces of information.

In addition to finding out that their son, Bruce, is the Batman of the DC Universe proper, Martha learns that the Joker was "a failed comedian with a wife and child, stuck in a menial job cleaning the bathrooms at Wayne Casino."

Martha then explains that she intends to travel back in time to ensure their son lives to become Batman after the events of Crime Alley.

It's worth noting the version of the Joker Martha is referring to exists in an alternate universe, which means our original Clown Prince of Crime may have a different name entirely - that said, we do know that many of the characters in the Flashpoint Beyond miniseries share the same names as their Earth-Prime counterparts.

What do you guys think? does The Joker share a name with the lead singer of The White Stripes, or is this a misdirect? Drop us a comment down below.

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WruceBayne
WruceBayne - 9/6/2022, 2:08 PM
The anonymity of the Joker is what makes him interesting. We don’t need a reason on why he’s a lunatic. I don’t even like the whole “failed comedian” angle. Why can’t he just be an unhinged nobody that just woke up one day and decided to burn everything down with no clear direction of his chaos?
GhostDog
GhostDog - 9/6/2022, 2:09 PM
Stop giving him a name. I don’t hate the failed comedian stuff but him being a nobody is certainly better.
GameOn
GameOn - 9/6/2022, 10:57 PM
@GhostDog - I agree but giving a name doesn’t make him anybody. If his name was Jack Oswald Wayne or something then that would suck.
Origame
Origame - 9/7/2022, 6:55 AM
@GhostDog - I think joker was best case scenario for giving him a name. Mostly thanks to the unreliable narrator angle that allowed them to say he might not even be THE joker.
Chewtoy
Chewtoy - 9/6/2022, 2:11 PM
So an easily deniable name for the true continuity if people don’t latch onto this one.

In other news:
https://deadline.com/2022/09/dan-lin-no-to-lead-dc-comics-film-tv-unit-1235109224/

WB is apparently still looking for their very own Feige.
Super12
Super12 - 9/6/2022, 2:14 PM
Everyone knows it's a dumb decision to officially name the Joker. Everyone. Just because you can do something doesn't mean you should.
Nightwing1015
Nightwing1015 - 9/6/2022, 3:08 PM
@Super12 - And yet 5 of the most popular pieces of Batman media of all time do exactly that.

Batman 89
Batman TAS
The Killing Joke
Joker 2019
Gotham (Fox)

We've done the no-name thing before, no reason why we can't sometimes tell an origin story for the character.
Fares
Fares - 9/6/2022, 2:16 PM
I remember a time when I was young enough to be intrigued by this sort of stuff.

But the more I read mainstream titles over the years, the more I realized that none of it matters in the grand scheme of things.

A stoy with no ending, with so many hands of different writers and artist meddling in it, and countless reboots and retcons, has no value to me. so I stopped reading all together.

If it's not a Manga, a limited run original comic, or a finished elseworld story under the control of a single creative team, then there's really no point of it.
Nightwing1015
Nightwing1015 - 9/6/2022, 3:06 PM
@Fares - That's why I think comics should actually commit to reboots MORE. If DC/Marvel universes were relaunched every 20 years and it was different each time stories would have more weight again.

It's insane that Marvel is still trying to pack 75 years of stories into one universe.
Fares
Fares - 9/6/2022, 7:19 PM
@Nightwing1015 - I think they should be even more flexible than that.

I don't know how it usually works, but if I had to guess, big companies like DC and Marvel have general fixed road maps for their characters and their big events, and they just bring writers on board to find the stories within the wiggle room of that confined space and string things together.

Let me guess, all the heroes are going to unite to stop a world-ending event? Rivetting. A fan favorite character is going to "die" just to be revived by another writer 2 years later? Daring today, are we?

I'd rather see these companies open up their IPs to writers to do with them as they want. Basically like the movies. We went from Nolan to Snyder to Matt Reeves when it comes to Batman.

You got a story that will span 5 to 6 years? You have a vision in mind that you want to tell within the DC sandbox? Go ahead.

Whether you want to use bunch of characters like the Justice League or a single one like Superman, we will provide you the license for it. Hell even if you want to create "Jeffery, the extraterrestrial lawn mower" and tell its story as a new addition to the DC legacy, you go ahead and do that.

Mike Mignola didn't get Hellboy handed to him from a previous run, he created it. So did Gaiman with Sandman, Moore with Watchmen, Oda with One Piece, Kirkman with Invincible.

And what I love about those stories is that they started with one person and they ended/will end with them (aside from some exceptions).

I wouldn't mind if 3 writers approach DC at the same time to tell 3 different Batman stories that would span a few years each, they could all run simultaneously for all I care. It's like if I'm reading Attack on Titan, Invincible and Hellboy at the same time. Three independent, limited-run books, but they just happen to all be starring Batman.

One could kill Batman at the end, another could retire him to be replaced by a successor, and the third would turn him into a villain or something. Reinvent the character if you have to. BTAS did that to Mr. Freeze, and that version became the standard moving forward. When the stakes are real, and character evolutions are real, then I'm interested.

And then you don't have to reboot anything. Because stories just end when their creators finish telling the story. And there's nothing else to follow it, crossover with it or build upon it in any way.

And if you want spectacle, someone would come along to tell a 20-year-spanning consistent, single-visioned, epic story. Bringing together multiple characters from different corners of the universe for a climactic adventure. Eiichiro Oda is doing it with One Piece, why can't western comics do it as well?

That's my ideal comic book industry. Comics that start from issue #1 and end with the last chapter. Tell a self-contained story, with real characters that age, change, turn bad or good, and die or ride off to the sunset. Not stagnate in the same stasis for decades with mostly "just fine" writing.
IronSpider101
IronSpider101 - 9/6/2022, 2:20 PM
I don't mind giving Joker a name. The absence of one is fine, but I don't see a reason why he can't have one in particular stories. Especially when you consider the whole "if I'm going to have a past, I prefer it to be multiple choice" angle. In fact, I think it adds to the character's legacy and iconography that there have been multiple incarnations now that give his human persona a specific name, but that they're all different as well as the origin.

I also like seeing different interpretations on what his origin may have been. Shying away from it and pretending he just appeared out of the mist one day is fine, but it's silly to hold on to that as the one and only way to do it.

I'm still partial to "Jack Napier" myself.


DudeGuy
DudeGuy - 9/6/2022, 2:24 PM
It’ll be retconned in a few months. Wasn’t there a comic where his real name was actually Joe Kerr years ago? Or is that just a nightmare I had?
AC1
AC1 - 9/6/2022, 2:41 PM
@OldMan - I don't think his real name was ever revealed to be Joe Kerr but there have been instances where he's worn a name tag with "Joe Kerr" on it as part of a 'disguise.' If I remember correctly that happened in Death of the Family (Scott Snyder & Greg Capullo) although it's been years since I read that so I could be wrong.
WruceBayne
WruceBayne - 9/6/2022, 2:46 PM
@OldMan - please tell me you’re joking(HA)! At some point in time “Joe Kerr” was a real thing and somebody thought it was a good idea to put this on paper and sell it?
OrgasmicPotatoe
OrgasmicPotatoe - 9/6/2022, 2:52 PM
@OldMan - At the end of Batman Begins, the ziploc with the card that Gordon gives Batman has the name of the police officer who presumably found it to be J. Kerr, I don't know if that's what you're thinking of...
Reeds2Much
Reeds2Much - 9/6/2022, 3:30 PM
@WruceBayne - In "Batman: Going Sane" Joker kills Batman and becomes sane, and for a time lives with his girlfriend as a normal every day shlub Joseph Kerr.
WruceBayne
WruceBayne - 9/6/2022, 4:11 PM
@Reeds2Much - that upsets me.
WruceBayne
WruceBayne - 9/6/2022, 4:15 PM
@Reeds2Much - I can get on board with the Joker being so crazy that when he finally manages to kill Batman that it triggers his sanity. Almost like a reverse mental breakdown. His name being Joe Kerr just bothers me and it feels cheap.
rebellion
rebellion - 9/6/2022, 2:25 PM
Lame and i will ignore it
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