EDITORIAL: Comicbooks vs ComicBook Movies

EDITORIAL: Comicbooks vs ComicBook Movies

In the era of comicbook movies, now that every studio and actor wants to be part of one, and nerds and geeks can make or brake a film, how important is their opinion vs the normal movie fan.

Can everything from the source material work, or do we choose to be fans of it only when it looks good?!

Editorial Opinion
By JustANerd - Aug 29, 2014 06:08 AM EST
Filed Under: Comics

HI CBM,

This article will be one for the comment section, wars will rise, but before you go and fill in the hate section up to the roof READ FIRST.

Now by now there must be more than 100 movies or more based on comicbooks or graphic novels. I am including them all from the 60s Batman to GOTG. Some of them are very good, some of them not so good, even terrible. Usually i wouldn't even think of writing such an article but the last 3 days i wrote 4 articles about Batman, DC, Marvel movies etc. and i read every comments that i got and this subject caught my eye. To be honest every article that i read on CBM i always read the comment section as well and most of the time there are good comments, but there is this DC vs Marvel battle going on as well. People always bring out the SOURCE MATERIAL like its the holly grail.





Now the issue that i want to bring out is the notion of "they should stick with the source material" catch phrase or "it was way more different" that the comics. As you suspect 98 % of the world have never read a comicbook in their life i can assure you, the ones that have read one act like the character's lawyer and need to defend him in all times. Now i love Batman, but am i the man who knows everything about him and has the approval stamp in my hands - NO!





What bugs me is that people think that if they have read the comics, they have the ultimate final word on what the movie should be about. Its like a hypster waiting for a new band to blow up so he can they say "Who Drake, i've know him since day one, he aint cool no more, he is too mainstream now". OK guys seriously, with the exception of the best storylines in each superhero's history, their best graphic novels i really do not see such great stories in the week to week issues of the comics. The writers are pushed and they need a story fast and they need to wing it, always have a story of any kind ready, be always on time, never miss a print and deliver this over and over again. Do you really think this is the best situation for a writer to give a genius idea or an above average story - NO!



Do movies give us the best storylines, NO! But when i read a comment that is directed to movies like TDK "I did not remind me of the comics at all" or "this is so not like in the comics" etc. OK then. Everyone hates Batman and Robin, but was it far from the comics, was it?

Not in my head, we have the sidekick Robin, we have Batgirl, so far very true to the source material, Gotham was pretty muched copy pasted from a comicbook, we had the neon lights, some of the dialogue really reminded me of a few Batman comics and the way he spoke there, The Batmobile again very much in a comicbook tone, so was the performance of Poison Ivy and the Bat Family, the story arc of Mr Freeze freezing Gotham has been done in the comics as well.







Thats because there are thing that can only work in the comicbooks and not in movies, this should have been clear by now to most people tnat enjoy bought.

I'll give examples thing that we love in comics that just suck on the big screen.

1) Reed Richards Mr Fantastic

I mean come on, like who in the world want to see this guy stretch on screen for real!!



Both movies were bad, but his involvment made it much worse for me. The costume was terrible, the FX were terrible just comic not comicbook.

2) Howard the DUCK



Comics, Hell yeah, Movies Hell NOOO!



3) Captain America's outfit



YES so much win!



What is this Nike? Come on



Lets stay true to the source material, please lets!!



Another visual example of something that will never work on screen simply because he looks like a morron dressed like this.



What is he a sexy scubba diver? And here is the result from this >



Some heroes were created on the go and as much as i want to defend some of the choices made in the comicbooks, i can't they are just to bad.

Thats why Aquaman is the butt of all jokes and thats why the FF will never make a good movie, thats why Electro was black and blue, and the reason for Batman and Robin floping sooo bad.

Now everyone is in my ear about how great Marvel are doing , ok check it out below.



And the movie counter part of one of the worst movies i have ever seen Hulk >



My favourite from Iron Man 2 >



who turned into this



One of the more colourful representations



That they simply did like it has nothing to do with the original 



And my number one pick....



Mr Kingsley .......



So my point is it's not always the source material that we need to stick to, there are directors out there that have a much better sense and ideas than the guys drawing this back in the 40s about stories and visuals. Lets be more broad and trust people to make those awesome movies for us. Trolling on the Internet is not going to help us a lot.

Have a great Weekend@home!
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yossarian
yossarian - 8/29/2014, 6:48 AM
The movies aren't like the comics. The comics aren't like the comics. It isn't worth losing sleep over.
yossarian
yossarian - 8/29/2014, 7:17 AM
@Nerd - Yeah. They bitch about the comics too. I guess it is just fun to bitch about everything. I don't know.
BaronZemo
BaronZemo - 8/29/2014, 7:17 AM
What is wrong with cap's suit in the avengers? Seriously i thought it was cool! What the hell is wrong with everybody? Stop complaining about everything. Hey, think about it for a moment. Is it really that awful? It annoyed you to watch it on the screen of the cinema? It's very cool, plus, now they are making everything dark as [frick] okay so i think that if in one movie they don't do it as dark it's not a problem. Plus, it does not look that bad. I hate when people complain a lot. Can't you enjoy it? People are forgeting that these are SUPERHEROES. God.
DrKinsolving
DrKinsolving - 8/29/2014, 7:34 AM
Let people complain, haha....

The movies are definitely a different medium, so the costumes need to be changed/updated a lot....

but the Major characters (personalities, ect) should still be the same, imo.... I think that is where a lot of the complaining comes from.... I think it makes sense to complain when the character on screen is totally different than who the character is in the comics.... It's just like if you read a book and watched a movie and your fav character in the book is a tough complicated character and in the movie he's a flamboyant prostitute, that sucks on all counts

Or if the story in the comics is better than the story in the movie.... Or, if the movie sucked and you just wasted money, an entire night, and your girlfriend is pissed.... Then feel free to complain, haha


EhMaybeSays
EhMaybeSays - 8/29/2014, 7:55 AM
What I do have a problem with is when they stray from the source material for no reason and then [frick] it up eg. Constantine
TwistedKingdom
TwistedKingdom - 8/29/2014, 10:06 AM
@TheDudeRusty

Agreed.

If a studio is going to adapt a comic book, novel or TV show, they have a responsibility to the source material and its fans. Does that mean Electro's costume needs to be spot on in the film. Of course not. What I'm talking about is capturing what drew the fans to the property in the first place. The reason it's been able to appeal to generations of readers and audiences.

If a costume doesn't work, fine. Modify it until it does. It's the elements from the source material fans connected with filmmakers should stay faithful to.
DrKinsolving
DrKinsolving - 8/29/2014, 10:50 AM
@TwistedKingdom

Exactly, also the Electro costume was based off the Ultimate comics so it wasn't much of a stretch....

What TASM films have messed up is the characters and the story (amongst other things)

TitanicByMyself
TitanicByMyself - 8/29/2014, 8:47 PM
You are right about Cap's costume in the Avengers. The worst part was the helmet though.
huckfinnisher
huckfinnisher - 8/30/2014, 2:01 PM
@justanerd finally somebody else recognizes what a heaping pile of dung incredible hulk was! I agree to a fault with your point about comic accuracy, it is the movie makees responsibility to not only base it on the comics but to adapt the most popular version. If superman red and blue from the 90s showed up people would be furious. It was a bad storyline. Blindly adapting from comics that are generally not regarded well is moronic. Sure it happened in the comics, but comics are a reflection of the time, so to adapt something like the batman comics you cited is wrong unless you want to set the movie in the past. Even iron man used original origin but jumped ship when it came to his next suit of armor because tech has changed and the original mark 2 would be a joke on film now. So adapt, yes, but make sure your not adapting something blindly that is a more unpopular version or a version that would stand out because it was written in a diff time.
RobGrizzly
RobGrizzly - 8/31/2014, 3:42 AM
I could write the same article with examples of times when accuracy is done right.
What's the point of this?

Bottom line: Sometimes things work and sometimes they don't.
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