Retro Review: AMAZING SPIDER-MAN #316

Retro Review: AMAZING SPIDER-MAN #316

In this addition of my weekly retro review, I talk about Amazing Spider-Man #316, better known as: "Venom is back!" Come check it out.

Review Opinion
By Destroyer14 - Dec 17, 2011 12:12 PM EST
Filed Under: Marvel Comics
Source: My Blog



There's something a lot of media tend to follow. When a character is a big hit, they usually bring him/her back sometime later. This issue is a classic example of that. I don't know if David Micheline had long term plans for our favorite Symbiote, but sixteen issues later, he returned. Or as the cover puts it, "Venom is back!" Technically, he appeared in the previous issue escaping from prison, but this issue was his next big appearance in the Spidey world. While this issue isn't known as a modern classic like #300, it's still an amazing issue and demonstrates how the Spidey comics should be.

Interesting enough, I wasn't exposed to the Todd Mcfarlane era until not too long ago. I liked Venom through the 90's cartoon, I mean, how do you not like a crazy evil Spider-Man? My first Spidey comic with Venom, wow, I can't even think of what it is. I believe the first single issue I got was Spider-Man Family #2. I had read a few Spidey comics from the Mcfarlane era, but the comics I mainly read were some from the 70's and late 90's to mid-2000's. It wasn't until I bought the Todd Mcfarlane Visionaries when I realized that was the definitive Spidey era. I had actually read this issue before, I had rented the trade paperback "Birth of Venom" a couple of years back. But I decided now was the time to add it to my collection. #316 is an example of how to bring a villain back and keep things fresh.

It's interesting to see how Venom was portrayed early on before becoming the most used character in the 90's. The scene where he suffocates a rat to explain something was something else. It was creepy. It was brutal. It was Venom. None of that Lethal Protector nonsense, this is what Venom was meant to be. A hardcore villain. It makes me a bit sad to think that they made him a bit of a joke in some of his mini-series later on. (I'm looking at "The Madness" and "Sign of the Boss" specifically.) Same with Spidey, looking back at these issues, the comparison to the current series is too unbelievable to do. This Spidey is sure of himself, knows what needs to be done. He doesn't act like a wisecracking fool like nowadays. His wisecracks back in this day, were genuinely funny. For a dollar, you get a main character you could root for and is likable, great art, and stories that define the character. Today, for four dollars, you get a juvenile character, inconsistent/inferior art, and sometimes good stories. How sad.


Talking about the issue, it features everything the Spidey comics at the time had. There's a lot of drama since Peter and MJ lost their condo. Wow, these two are just a perfect match. If Peter ever gets married again and it's not MJ, there will be a problem. I love the scene where Peter walks into Aunt May's house and the ladder telling him that MJ seems upset. Then when Peter walks in to see what's the matter, she says "He's back." I love the little box where it says "horror has a name." However, the most dramatic and brutal scene of the comic was when Black Cat had an encounter with our Symbiote friend. Wow, even reading it now sends a bit of a shudder down my spine when Venom smashes her face against the wall. You're thinking at that moment, "Did he just...." I still cannot get over that scene. That is what Venom does. Not to mention the great dialogue, "Tell me where he is! Now! While you still have a face!" Venom's obsession with Spider-Man can't be better explained, that scene is proof enough in showing how crazy he is. I think the whole scene should go down as one of the most dramatic and brutal in all comics.

Overall, #316 is one of the greatest Spidey comics I've ever read. I actually enjoyed it more than #300. Venom was back, and would be back a thousand times, but this issue is special. The dialogue is top-notch. The current series has plain bad dialogue when compared to this. I especially liked the scene where Spidey was on the search for Venom, and just when he's about to give up, Venom comes in saying "Quitting so soon?" Spidey replies. "Er, f-finally found me, eh?" "Find you? We've been following you! For hours!" That line goes to show you how he just likes to mess with Spidey like no other villain does. However, the second most dramatic scene in the issue was when Spidey threw some heavy machinery on top of Venom, then escaped, saying, "I just can't beat Venom one-on-one. I'll need a plan, maybe some help!" Spider-Man rarely flees a fight, but he did here. It's something else. Then the final scene where Venom emerges finding a paper saying where Peter and is staying and his gruesome smile at it is just one heck of an ending. Amazing Spider-Man #316 is great issue, I am proud to have it in my collection.

10/10.

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JDUKE25
JDUKE25 - 12/17/2011, 12:53 PM
One of my favorite Spidey covers
genesis609
genesis609 - 12/17/2011, 1:00 PM
oh how much better the art was... lol
MatchesMalone1989
MatchesMalone1989 - 12/17/2011, 1:07 PM
This is my favorite Era of Spider-Man. And these comics are the reason he is my favorite super hero. If you get a chance can you review the issue where its a triple threat match between Spidey, Venom, and Carnage. It's the issue where Spidey threw Carnage on the third rail and Carnage still got up from that. That my friend is one the best issues of Spider Man I have ever read. The cover has all three of their faces on it.
superotherside
superotherside - 12/17/2011, 1:22 PM
Great review bro. I need to read more Spider-man comics like this. :)
MatchesMalone1989
MatchesMalone1989 - 12/17/2011, 1:43 PM
I found it. Amazing #363. The finale of Carnage's first appearance. Brutal fight between these three. My favorite comic.

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darCNite1989
darCNite1989 - 12/17/2011, 1:50 PM
You know, they just don't make 'em like they used to. Thanks for posting that Matches. A Spidey/Venom/Carnage triple threat match? Hell yeah! Good times.
Destroyer14
Destroyer14 - 12/17/2011, 1:59 PM
Thanks otherside and nowtheresaBATman.

@MatchesMalone1989 Yup, I own that comic and will do a retro review of that soon. It's on my list of retro reviews to do.
OtakuPapi
OtakuPapi - 12/17/2011, 2:05 PM
Sad that some dont understand the definitive Era for most comics was the 90's. Spidey used to be the ish Maximum Carnage on Super Nes playing Venom for the first time What! It didnt get more epic than that...Heck id love to see them re-do Maximum Carnage Arkham Asylum style or something Spidey has had some dark moments in his history
Simonsonrules
Simonsonrules - 12/17/2011, 2:20 PM
@Otaku: the 90s? Are you kidding? Sheesh.
Odin
Odin - 12/17/2011, 3:40 PM
Yeah, thats THE Venom!
thewolfx
thewolfx - 12/17/2011, 3:48 PM
venom owns all
marvel72
marvel72 - 12/17/2011, 4:31 PM
classic comic of the 90s,love the comic love venom a brutal issue.
tripttwe
tripttwe - 12/17/2011, 5:50 PM
Classic comic! One of my favorite single-issue books...
Destroyer14
Destroyer14 - 12/17/2011, 7:51 PM
Thanks ELgUaSoN.

If anyone has any requests, feel free to say what they are.
Blackmatter
Blackmatter - 12/17/2011, 10:28 PM
Got that & read it many times
marvel72
marvel72 - 12/18/2011, 5:51 AM
@ destroyer14

request time.....

the amazing spider-man kravens last hunt.
spider-man 1-5 torment by todd mcfarlane.
venom lethal protector limited series
anything from chris claremonts run on the uncanny x-men
west coast avengers vision quest
thor 387-389 thor vs celestials
Brett613
Brett613 - 12/18/2011, 12:06 PM
@ destroyer14

I find it hard to take your review seriously, since it seems you don't understand much about how a comic is made. Todd McFarlane had nothing to do with planning Venom's appearance in this issue, or for that matter, his first appearance in issue 300. Those were decisions made by the writer, and creator of the character, in this case David Michelinie. You say how much you liked the "story" in this issue, but again you never mention the writer. Todd's art on Spider-Man was a treat for sure, but as good as his work was he was only drawing what the writer presented to him in his story. If your going to review comics, then you should learn to give credit or assign blame) where it is due and learn the various contributions of the numerous creators on a title.

And yes is was a great book, story and art, thanks to David Michelinie and Todd McFarlane.
LAWLZY96
LAWLZY96 - 12/18/2011, 1:23 PM
I agree with you Destroyer, Venom was a much better villian and overall character back in those days. All the Lethal Protector crap ruined Venom for me. Since his first two or three appearances I haven't like Venom until the current Flash Thompson version.
Destroyer14
Destroyer14 - 12/18/2011, 8:07 PM
@Brett613 It has been argued about who created Venom. Both Mcfarlane and Michelinie share credit for that.
FlixMentallo21
FlixMentallo21 - 12/18/2011, 9:28 PM
Man, now I know why I consider Eddie Brock to be the true Venom. The heck with Gargan, NO to Flash Thompson, Eddie Brock IS Venom. If I had my way, Anti-Venom would've just been a spawn of the symbiote that embodied all that was once good in Brock. Though I do like Toxin.
Fogs
Fogs - 12/19/2011, 4:58 AM
McFarlane is boss.
Destroyer14
Destroyer14 - 12/19/2011, 7:18 AM
The error is fixed.
Brett613
Brett613 - 12/19/2011, 6:12 PM
@ destroyer14

It doesn't really matter who or how many people have argued or debated who created Venom, knowing the parties involved personally at the time the character was created, I can tell all who are interested that the fact is Venom was created by DAVID MICHELINIE, alone, with his first plot introducing the new character being written BEFORE Todd was offered the penciling assignment on Amazing Spider-Man. Todd's style and design of the look of Venom most certainly contributed to Venom's success, but Todd had no involvement in creating the character beyond being the first penciler to draw him. He is listed as a co-creator because that is Marvel's (and DC's as well) standard operating procedure with all new characters: writer and artist share creator credit and rights.
Brett613
Brett613 - 12/20/2011, 6:50 PM
@ ELgUaSoN

Actually your story is wrong. Don't know where you came up with this, or from whom you heard it, but clearly it wasn't from someone who actually knows the facts. The reason that so many false stories are out there about this is because people like yourself keep posting whatever they find on the web, or hear at a con and present it as fact.

As I stated before, I was personally close to the situation and Venom (along with Eddie Brock) was created solely by Michelinie before Todd was ever considered for the penciling assignment on the book. Todd did design the look of the characters, but without Dave's plot and descriptions of the character there was nothing for Todd to draw. Venom's classic look that everyone likes so much is in fact Todd's visual interpretation of Dave's story, but the idea for the character, the full concept, the backstory, the motivation, everything about Venom was Michelinie's. Feel free to ask Dave himself, or the editor at the time, Jm Salicrup, even Jim Shooter might remember, otherwise don't believe what you find on the internet or hear at a convention.

As for the 'random artist' you speak of, again your facts are off. The drawing you speak of was actually just a suggestion by a fan to put Spider-Man in a black suit. Shooter liked the idea, and when he decided to use the idea in Secret Wars, he paid the kid. This had no connection to Venom, he wasn't even a twinkle in any writer's eye at that time. For the real story straight from Shooter, go to Jim's blog, as he wrote specifically about this matter. Here's that link from Jim's blog dated April 5, 2011, read Jim's answer to question five: http://www.jimshooter.com/2011/04/questions-and-answers.html
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