Mark Millar on The Ultimates' Influence In Marvel Movies!

well the iron man movies have ultimate stark and that works great. i think for some things ultimates work better. like spiderman should start ultimate with his early years and branch into amazing spiderman style. they need a young actor so he is not to old for the role by the third movie again

ULTIMATES has [frick]ed up the MARVEL UNIVERSE, thanks MILLER lol!

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His best stuff is AUTHORITY and KICK ASS!

Though movie wise WANTED SUCKED!

Man look how crap those Ultimate heroes look WTF lol!

Anyway cool article @ JOSH lol! ; D



616 all da way!!!

I love the ultimates!

I love that the movies are heavily influenced by The Ultimates. I really hope that all this work pays off for Marvel and for the fans. Cant wait for Thor!!! Millar's work is stellar! Nemesis is already off to a great start.

I thought that the The Ultimates 1 & 2 were brilliant. Some people take the series' far too seriously by seeing them as some sort of "insult" to the 616 universe when in reality, they're a great read that give a truly facsinating insight into what it might be like if superheroes existed in our world.

ANIL: Same here! In my eyes, all of Millar's work has been flawless. The Ultimates, Old Man Logan, Civil War, Kick-Ass...the list goes on and on! So far, Marvel Studios have taken all the best parts from his and Hitch's series and mixed it in with the best parts of the regular versions of the characters and that's great with me! And I completely agree - Bendis needs to take a step back from the Avengers! Civil War proved what a great idea it is to let another writer handle the big events (and yet they still let Bendis control those!) but I'd just like someone else's take on the team - Brubaker's Secret Avengers is a good start though! I'd love to see Millar writing the core book.

MULTI: I think he's talking more about the personality rather than armour/powers. Personally, I'd say that the movie Stark is far more similar to the Ultimate version but a lot of that is equally down to Downey Jr's acting style too IMO!

LEE: Thanks bud! :) But how many more times? They're just DIFFERENT versions of the classic characters! Marvel Zombies, 1602, Noir - all reimaginings of them that do nothing but give a new and refreshing take that most definitely do not dilute the 616 bunch in the least! The character you grew up with are still there - The Ultimates is just a modern take on them that is extremely interesting! (you should actually read them sometime, lol!)

Millar/Hitch = EPIC WIN!

I love Millars stuff. Seems like everything he writes turns to gold.

Way too much of the Ultimates BS! It's like an alternate Marvel. This is getting as screwed up as X-Men.
I'll pass on the Cap and Avengers movies...At least until they base them on the original Marvel (616)storylines.

I really enjoyed the Ultimates and I think Mark Millar is awesome. They're an awesome new spin on the characters.

I do like how they are having an influence in the movies but I don't want them to dominate. The 616 characters are the true Marvel characters that are known across the world. I love 616 and I don't want the movies to stray too far from it and into the Ultimates universe.

As much as I love Samuel L Jackson I would have preferred to see good old cigar smoking 616 Nick Fury (Bruce Willis maybe? :P). I want Cap's WW2 uniform to be like the Ultimates but his modern one has too be 616.

I also hate the Ultimates.

Actually I didn't hate their existence before we started seeing bits of them in the movies.

Before that I just thought that they were a weak, cheap imitation of the originals. It's so lame how there are all these people who claim that The Ultimates are just so much more realistic than 616.
This is absolute baloney. There's just less capes and bright colors. It's still sci fi. It's still as unrealistic as super hero comic books always will be and always have been. The Ultimates are also boring, overly talky, and ridiculously melodramatic. It's more like a soap opera with powers than anything.

So anyway, the more Ultimatized the movies get, the less interested I am. So needless to say i won't be watching The Spider Man reboot or the Captain America movie.

@ Iconstatic: You underestimate your fellow CBMers. I have been reading and collecting comics for 26 years. There's nothing wrong with modernizing. But there is something wrong with rehashing a story that wasn't bad to start with just because writers like Millar and Bendis are too lame to come up with their own material.

@Barakapool

I'm actually not the biggest fan of the Ultimates. But at the very least from a design standpoint? They certainly have a more realistic and practical edge, at least in some cases.

In particular, in real life an archer would have to be an idiot to wear a mask, as that would interefere with his or her peripheral vision. You can say that it's just Millar trying to seem cool, but at least in regards to Hawkeye, it is very much a more realistic take.

@ Iconstatic: I certainly understand what your saying.

My thinking is this:

1)Super heroes wear masks to conceal their identity which makes perfect sense.
2) There is nothing wrong with super heroes being flamboyant. The same people that say Captain America's costume which has symbolic significance to the character is ridiculous will turn around and say that Superman's costume which is equally loud and colorful, but less symbolic is wonderful.

There are a vast number of relatively new - ish comic book readers who either don't know or can't appreciate those two points.


What you said about peripheral vision is a good point. In reality, that's true that unless the mask was skin tight it probably would interfere with peripheral vision. But that doesn't mean the guy has to go around with no costume on whatsoever. Just minimize the headgear. But in an age where the average person in a first world nation is photographed 14 times a day, then need to disguize one's appearance would seem more relevant than ever.

tea: Lol, thanks bud! :D

Some great points there MULTI! Personally, I can live with him blowing his own trumpet every now and then if he continues to write brilliant comics like the ones you mention! To be fair though, I'm pretty sure that RDJ crack was made a little while before he was ever cast as Iron Man.

Personally, there are some elements of the Ultimate Captain America that I'd like to see in the movie - for example, the way that Millar wrote him as being completely out of place in the modern world, having him use words like "chum", making him a little rougher around the edges as you'd expect from a soldier - just the little touches like that. As for personality? It's gotta be 616 all the way for me.

On a side note, I too only really enjoyed The Ultimates 1 & " along with Ultimate Spider-Man but I'd recommend picking up Millar's Ultimate Avengers - they're nowhere near as good as his original run but a fun read nonetheless. :)

I know thie text in this image is a little small, but this is exactly what I'm talking about when it comes to how I think Cap should talk...

@JoshW- I don't know if I would call Millar brilliant. He still hasn't met the level of Gaiman, Moore, or Morrison. He's entertaining at times, but doesn't do too well with subtlety. I read Nemesis and it seemed more of an attempt continue his gritty image than a good story in and of itself. Millar has that potential to be great, but I'm still waiting for it.

@iconstatic- Identity Crisis (DC) is a great read about the need for masks in the superhero world. I agree with 616 Hawkeye being a little over the top for the screen, though. To me, it's all how they make the character work on screen. (I.E. Spiderman with the wrestling thing. Batman with the criminals as a superstitious bunch thing.)