Ror Revisits: Daredevil

Ror Revisits: Daredevil

Misunderstood masterpiece unfairly tossed in with the "bad" list of CBMs? Or a load of old Affleck?

Review Opinion
By MarkCassidy - Mar 31, 2010 05:03 PM EST
Filed Under: Daredevil

Well, it ain't no masterpiece! But its certainly under rated. Although after watching it again I was struck by a few annoyances that slipped by me back in the day.

The film follows(loosely) Frank Miller's version of Matt Murdock's origin story. An accident as a child leaves him blind but heightens his remaining senses. As an adult, he fights for justice as a lawyer by day and superhero by night - until a romance with Elektra brings him up against crime boss Kingpin and bat shit crazy assassin-for-hire Bullseye.

Daredevil is the fourth Marvel character to make his big screen debut after Blade, The X-Men and Spider-Man, and writer/Director Mark Stephen Johnson does a good job of setting it apart from those movies. Its quite a bit darker and edgier than Spider-Man or X-Men, but never crosses into the splatter territory of Blade(although the R rated directors cut does up the violence quota). He also decides to skip over the usual Super Hero staple of the training, coming into their own as a hero type thing. There are a few early scenes when he's a kid but then its straight into the action as Murdock is hopping around buildings as a costumes vigilante in his prime. He regularly gets the tar beat out of him too of course, and the film does a good job of showing this side of it. Murdock/Daredevil is also one of the more faithful incarnations of a comic character we have seen in a movie. He hits all the right notes with Daredevil's viciousness and unrelenting pursuit of justice for the people of Hell's Kitchen as well as his increasing worry that he's beginning to go too far and cross the line from hero to villain. Ben Affleck gives possibly his best performance in this too..although even thats not as good as it should be! Without meaning to sound mean, Affleck just can't help being..Affleck! He's just not a very likable leading man, and is a bit lacking in the charisma stakes. But like I said, he's not bad at all in this despite that because Johnson's script is actually very strong(What the Hell happened with Ghost Rider?) The rest of the cast are all on solid form too. Jennifer Garner isn't exactly the Elekta we know and love from the comics, but she certainly does a good job with this movieverse's version. Michael Clarke Duncan is decent as Kingpin although a few of his lines fall flat. Colin Farrel is over the top to say the least as Irish fruitcake Bullseye, but he still manages to steal the movie.

The major problems with the film are the action scenes and stunt/wire work. Daredevil runs and flips around the city in bad cgi, and when its actually Affleck involved in the action scenes he looks as stiff as a board in his red leather fetish gear(would it have killed them to put the huge zipper on the side?). Also the infamous play ground fight/flirt scene between DD and Elekta truly is horrible to behold. I actually don't know how it made the final cut because it belongs in the type of film both Garner and Affleck would usually make..a shite one! And then the awful wire jumps, cgi leaps and pirouettes continue into every action and fight scene(a brutal scrap between Elekta and Bullseye an exception). I'm usually not a big stickler for these things if the other aspects of the movie hold up. I'll take good acting and script with bad action over the reverse any day, but so much of these set pieces are integral to the driving narrative here that they really do hamstring it. Another thing that didn't seem to bother me before is the music. I don't actually mind Evanescence but Johnson really over uses them in this. The songs are used in an attempt to heighten some already emotional scenes so its just over kill.

So by no means the disaster some see it as, but there is a lot of room for improvement. Hopefully the reboot will improve on the set pieces and flow of the action while maintaining the attention paid to the characters.



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CaptainAmerica
CaptainAmerica - 3/31/2010, 5:34 PM
actually, it wasnt a crappy movie. Especially the DC. Ok acting, good effects for back then, and lazy stunt work lol
LEEE777
LEEE777 - 3/31/2010, 5:35 PM
Why we getting an old movie review???

And DAREDEVIL was a pretty good decent superhero flick, didn't like KINGPIN but got over it lol!

BULLSEYE [frick]ing AWESOME!!!!

GRIF @ Lol, good man!

ngu13
ngu13 - 3/31/2010, 5:35 PM
good suit tho ..they have left that 1 long anuff .. to do a reboot now .
LEEE777
LEEE777 - 3/31/2010, 5:37 PM
ngu13 @ Yeah they have...

Oh and MICHAEL C HALL as DAREDEVIL!!!

: P
Urban8er
Urban8er - 3/31/2010, 5:37 PM
I liked this movie too.
ecksmanfan
ecksmanfan - 3/31/2010, 5:38 PM
This film will always be stuck in mediocher-land to me. It has a few shining moments, but it's hard to see them through the sh!t.
LEEE777
LEEE777 - 3/31/2010, 5:41 PM
WOLVIE @ I'm glad it was made, i loved it, even bought the directors cut, killer movie!

But yeah i hated The park scene too LOL!
weapon925
weapon925 - 3/31/2010, 5:41 PM
I think a lot of the craptastic stuff was them trying to figure out what to do with a CBM and not repeat Spidy and X-men.
ngu13
ngu13 - 3/31/2010, 5:48 PM
c this could end up like cap .... i like it ..who is the perfect daredevil....i have the film on blu ray ... personaly ide watch daredevil over spiderman for some reason ..their isnt alot of stunt work .but the film keeps you going .. just like tim burton batman ..and that film stands the test of time.. for the . first proper go at that film
ViperXX79
ViperXX79 - 3/31/2010, 5:50 PM
The directors cut makes it a better movie to me.
Waynethebruce10
Waynethebruce10 - 3/31/2010, 5:50 PM
It was okay. I agree that Affleck is just, well, Affleck. And I hated Colin as Bullseye. Just too much fluff. For what it's worth, I think the best superhero actors are the actors that are not more famous than the character. Affleck was more well known than Daredevil and his stardom overshines the Daredevil character. Aside from the great script and direction, I think the reboot of Batman with Christian Bale worked so well was due to the fact that Bale hadn't really become THAT famous yet. I liked the movie Troy, and Pitt did a good job as Achilles, but I couldn't shake the idea that it was Brad Pitt.
WalkingPhoenix
WalkingPhoenix - 3/31/2010, 5:55 PM
Nice review. I agree with Ror with the fact that Afflack is typecast as that guy, the number 2 guy, a supporting cast member. When he's in a supporting role u love him, when he try's to lead he steps on your toes(so to say). Maybe sneak him a little cameo in Avengers. something small, just to give him props, he did decent in Daredevil. And it was a pretty good movie compared to the other movies made around that time. maybe electra just over shadowed him in it.

WalkingPhoenix
WalkingPhoenix - 3/31/2010, 5:57 PM
OK, I thought about it, maybe not in Avengers
Ryguy88
Ryguy88 - 3/31/2010, 5:59 PM
I'd say the film was halfway there but all of the good points seem to derive from the faithful script, anything that requirs any work after that just doesn't quite do it. 3/5 is a fair rating, I'd say it falls right in the middle when it comes to CBMs.

Good review Ror, next to breaking CBM news these are the types of articles I come on this site to read.
MarkCassidy
MarkCassidy - 3/31/2010, 6:00 PM
Yeah the DC is much better, but I thought it was kind of cheating to review that since this is the movie that was given to us in theaters and made the first impression.

Lee check out my X-Men review in reviews for an explanation of the old movie re-visitations.
AvengingAngel1022
AvengingAngel1022 - 3/31/2010, 6:01 PM
good review ror but i found him as a likeable character he was good in that movie in my opinion
StephenStrange
StephenStrange - 3/31/2010, 6:02 PM
I was pretty disappointed by it.
it was mostly the writing, plot, and dialogue I had a problem with.
the rest was somewhat passable.
supermarioworldE
supermarioworldE - 3/31/2010, 6:03 PM
Had Johnson actually looked at how ridiculous the movie was at times, the final product could have been alot better.

I would've liked to have seen Kingpin look closer to his comic book counterpart, but Duncan did a fair job

The CGI was just plain terrible. There were times when Daredevil was able to jump just as high as Spiderman. Was there a scene i missed where DD was magically given super jumping abilities?

Johnson had his head so far up his ass, that he didn't see the crap that he put together (Colin Ferrell's obviously terrible depiction of bullseye).

Although I must admit that DD wasn't quite as bad as Ghost Rider
Ryguy88
Ryguy88 - 3/31/2010, 6:05 PM
Leee, Michael C. Hall pretty much already plays Daredevil, do you have a plan B?
mgauge
mgauge - 3/31/2010, 6:06 PM
I liked this movie as well. I think they could have picked better actors than Affleck and Michael Duncan Clarke.
StephenStrange
StephenStrange - 3/31/2010, 6:06 PM
I am a huge DD fan. initially I went a little overboard with criticizing it, because I had been a solid reader of the book for so long.

But after having seen it about 20 times now, I have to admit there's some merit here and there.
OdinsBeard
OdinsBeard - 3/31/2010, 6:07 PM
i always feel like Affleck never gets a fair shake. sure he makes shitty movies but i think that's just bad decision making on the management side. i mean, would the movies he was in be better with out him? i say no. they were shit before it even hit the paper.

DD was bad - but i never thought that was Afflecks fault. he was, at the very least, serviceable.
kalel38
kalel38 - 3/31/2010, 6:09 PM
@waynethebruce10 totally agree.affleck was too big of n actor to play a superhero.I liked brad pitt in Troy but i couldnt help thinkin:oh thats brad pitt,took away from the role a bit.all that sed i liked daredevil,affleck was decent enough.but the park scene was terrible.
@Ror good job&whats up next??
gunner
gunner - 3/31/2010, 6:09 PM
I liked This Movie , ( but it wasn't perfect) and I've never understood why it got such a Bad Rap......you cant Please everybody .
ngu13
ngu13 - 3/31/2010, 6:11 PM
@tea in hamleys in london .. they have a section with mask and stuff from alot of super hero films ... they had a proper daredevil mask and stick that becomes nunchuka.. 290 pounds .. and the dark knight mask in 3 parts that fit at 450 ..i had my little girl with me . gutted they looked the part
TurnpikeM
TurnpikeM - 3/31/2010, 6:15 PM
Good ol DareDevil, not the greatest comicbook movie but definitely not the worst either. It will always have a place for me. I was in 9th grade. I couldn't wait for this movie, something to get by until x-men 2 and the hulk came out. Plus Jennifer Gardner in leather, that wasn't so bad ;). Sure it was a lot cooler back then but we didn't know any better. Man, some of those one liners. lol

InTylerWeTrust
InTylerWeTrust - 3/31/2010, 6:16 PM
Great review. I too thougth DD was decent, not great by any means (though it did have certain moments) but not terrible. I agree that the FX was pretty awful, and sometimes the fights were, eh, not up to par, but I loved the bar fight scene. That one kicked ass IMO.

Ugh, that playground scene, good Lord, what were they thinking?

"I'll take good acting and script with bad action over the reverse any day"

What movie does this remind me of? Hm...I know it starts with a G and ends in Joe, can't remember the middle part though :)
theartofoneness
theartofoneness - 3/31/2010, 6:20 PM
Its like taking a giant gross poop and telling yourself its gold. I bet they knew they were making a shitty movie.
MarkCassidy
MarkCassidy - 3/31/2010, 6:20 PM
MMM, im not sure Tyler, ..I do know a movie called GI Joke..is it a sequel to that or something?:)

Yeah actually I forgot to mention the bar fight, that was pretty good too. Don't get me wrong, t5he acting wasn't spectacular or anything but none of them failed to convince me in their characters so it worked. I don't know how anyone couldn't like Farrel as Bullseye, man he hammed it up so much that it transcended ham..it crossed over into brilliance!

kalel38, Not sure actually.. thats 2 Marvel movies so I should do a DC one next..maybe Superman The Movie.
JoshWilding
JoshWilding - 3/31/2010, 6:22 PM
Great review ROR - I agree completely. I actually enjoyed the film for the most part. Without repeating what you've already said, the dodgy CGI was the main thing that ruined the movie for me but I though that DD was handled well. I mean, for the most part it was bad but it's a decent enough movie and doesnt deserve to be dumped as crap with the likes of Elektra and Fantastic Four.

As for who should play DD in a reboot...

Daredevil
OdinsBeard
OdinsBeard - 3/31/2010, 6:23 PM
WPT@ thanks man! seems like Kevin Smith is the only one who can make mainstream audiences actually want to watch ben affleck lol

LEEE@ im down with michael c hall doing anything. him as DD would be awesome! but i think he should play the riddler!
SHHH
SHHH - 3/31/2010, 6:23 PM
The Director complained on commentary about the effects used..There is no way you can make a movie that everyone likes..sarcasm...

@InTylerWeTrust: I second the playground scene...wtf??
TNTjesus
TNTjesus - 3/31/2010, 6:26 PM
@Ror...That was a really well written review. I didn't appreciate the movie as much as you, though I couldn't help but largely agree with your argument. My main gripe about Affleck was that he always looked super stiff and I could never buy that he was supposed to be a super agile superhero. He definitely appears to be a victim of the "white man can't jump" syndrome. But for me, this sorta killed the movie for me as this concept was stuck in the front of my mind the whole time. Nonetheless, I think I will try the DC to see if it can help persuade me to drink the kool-aid.
WalkingPhoenix
WalkingPhoenix - 3/31/2010, 6:26 PM
@Odinsbeard - agree about 'would the movie have been better without affleck', no. Affleck, i think, pulled off that Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness DD should have. u feel sorry for the guy. Kingpin was a bit too smiley, that guy was great in green mile and he has the size, but that's like putting in Triple H to play Thor.

Half way through the movie you start wondering, whats gonna happen with Elektra? What's she gonna do next? No Elektra! dont stab DD with the Sai it's Ben!!! And then after she stabs him, do you feel sorry for DD, NO you feel bad for Elektra for stabbing Ben.

Man after writing this it gets me thinking about Thor with Hemsworth surrounded by all that tallent. hopefully Hemsworth has the balls to pull it off though. Looking forward to that movie.
SHHH
SHHH - 3/31/2010, 6:30 PM
Daredevil had a tight soundtrack I thought.. who could forget



Joe6Pack74
Joe6Pack74 - 3/31/2010, 6:45 PM
This movie to me was an EPIC FAIL. I could not get past Ben Affleck. He is a terrible actor and all around ass clown. To me this one is Marvels "Catwoman". I dunno how they could do something like X1 and then think the public would want this, it should of went in the vault with the first Fantastic Four movie(which was not fantastic...).
kalel38
kalel38 - 3/31/2010, 6:47 PM
@ror. nice one.that is one epic epic movie.
@joshw havent gotten around to watchin dexter yet but dat dude looks the part
greenlanternsector2814
greenlanternsector2814 - 3/31/2010, 6:48 PM
After watching the director's cut, I had more of an appreciation for the movie. For some reason, I thought it made it better. And I didn't mind Ben Affleck as Daredevil. I actually thought his Matt Murdock could have been better. And definitely someone else other than Garner as Elektra. Could have used someone better. And I wish they would have used Bullseye's costume.
Waynethebruce10
Waynethebruce10 - 3/31/2010, 6:50 PM
Let's face it. We're giving the studio's a pass because for, how many years, we've been starving to see our comics come to life. Keaton's Batman's weren't really that good. Scripts were half-*ss'd. Spidey wasn't great, but how cool was it to see him swinging around in a great costume where it actually looked real. I loved DD too, and was excited JUST to have a movie of him. We all see them because we can't help ourselves. If you deny me pizza for a year, then put a Tony's frozen in front of me, I'll swear up and down it ain't that bad.
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