James Gunn Shares THE BRAVE AND THE BOLD Update; Explains Why He's In No Rush To Debut DCU's BATMAN

James Gunn Shares THE BRAVE AND THE BOLD Update; Explains Why He's In No Rush To Debut DCU's BATMAN

James Gunn has shared an update on DC Studios' plans for The Brave and the Bold, while explaining why he's in no rush to introduce Batman to the DCU...

By MarkCassidy - Nov 19, 2024 01:11 PM EST
Filed Under: The Brave and the Bold

A movie based on The Brave and the Bold was announced as part of the first "Gods and Monsters" Chapter of the DCU's slate, and while the project does have a director attached in The Flash helmer Andy Muschietti, James Gunn has repeatedly stated that the movie is still only in the very early stages of development.

Bat-fans may be eager to find out which actor will play the Dark Knight in the DCU (there are no plans to fold Matt Reeves' The Batman universe into the DCU, despite rumors to the contrary), but Gunn has now explained why he's in no rush to debut the iconic Gotham City vigilante.

“There’s no set timeline for anything," the DC Studios co-CEO tells Collider. "The one thing that I’ve tried to make clear to people from the beginning, in the way that I hope we're different, is that everything in DC is going to be based on the writers. Until we have a screenplay that I’m totally happy with, that movie is not going to get made, no matter what it is. So, we have been really fortunate with some screenplays."

"You know, Supergirl came in and just, wow Ana [Nogueria] did such an amazing job, the Lanterns pilot came in, and now the whole 'Lanterns' series came in, and it's like 'Wow that's wonderful, wonderful work.' And there's a couple of other things that people don't know about, a couple of movies and TV shows that are greenlit or near greenlit. But it's going to be based always on that, on the story, because at the end of the day if we're happy with the story that we're telling, that's what matters most. And once The Brave and the Bold gets to that point, then we'll make the movie. ”

Spoilers follow.

Batman may not appear in live-action until The Brave and the Bold, but we recently learned that the Caped Crusader's shadow will be seen in the Creature Commandos animated series.

"This is the introduction of the DCU's Batman," Gunn said of the movie when the Gods and Monsters slate was announced. "This is the story of Damian Wayne, who is Batman's actual son who we didn't know existed for the first eight to 10 years of his life. He was raised as a little murderer and assassin. He's a little son of a bitch. He's my favorite Robin. It's based on the Grant Morrison comic book's run, which is one of my favorite Batman runs, and we are putting that all together right now."

Peter Safran added, "And this is obviously a feature film, and it's going to feature other members of the extended 'Bat-family', just because we feel like they've been left out of the Batman stories in the theater for far too long."

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harryba11zack
harryba11zack - 11/19/2024, 1:38 PM
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micvalpro
micvalpro - 11/19/2024, 2:14 PM
@harryba11zack - Rick Moranis as Gordon
Malatrova15
Malatrova15 - 11/19/2024, 2:42 PM
@harryba11zack - That Clown got JONKLED!
Malatrova15
Malatrova15 - 11/19/2024, 2:42 PM
@micvalpro - Martin Short as the Mad Hatter and Steve Martin as The Diddler
TheJok3r
TheJok3r - 11/19/2024, 1:41 PM
Another reason is that they have a successful Batman franchise already ongoing, so there's no need to rush anything else or try to compete with it. I expect things will pick up once Reeves starts work on Batman III.
Steel86
Steel86 - 11/19/2024, 1:50 PM
@TheJok3r - You're absolutely right about the first part. But I don't think it'll be that long be B&B gets green lit. Gunn's been a straight shooter and if that was the case I think he would either state so or not say anything at all. Because if they wait that long there will be an entire JLA team without Batman
TheJok3r
TheJok3r - 11/19/2024, 1:53 PM
@Steel86 - Actually, that's exactly how I expect the DCU Batman to be handled until Reeves is done. I think he'll be introduced in the first JL movie, which won't be too far form when Batman III comes out. That way, the DCU Batman will be known to the public by the time he gets his first solo movie, which won't have to worry about being compared to Reeves'.
McMurdo
McMurdo - 11/19/2024, 1:56 PM
@TheJok3r - brave and the Bold will go intro production long before Batman 3. Reeves hasn't even finished the second film's script lol.
TheJok3r
TheJok3r - 11/19/2024, 2:02 PM
@McMurdo - Perfection takes time, as we saw with both The Batman and Penguin. You can't get that kind of quality by forcing projects into and out of production before they're ready. That's how we end up with shit like the DCEU and the majority of post Endgame MCU.
Steel86
Steel86 - 11/19/2024, 3:13 PM
@TheJok3r - You do realize The Batman 2 is slated for 26. So guessing 3 would be around 29. So no Batman in the DCU for 5 only works if Superman was solo till then. But we already know he won't be. He's working with GL, Mr. Terrific and Hawkgirl in his own film. Supergirl is around the corner and GL show then movie so it just doesn't make sense.
lazlodaytona
lazlodaytona - 11/19/2024, 3:37 PM
@TheJok3r - Penguin was great. The Batman was a boring slog-fest. Didn't even come close to the sacred billion $ mark Batman is supposed to automatically achieve. Successful franchise? .....can't call it yet.
lazlodaytona
lazlodaytona - 11/19/2024, 3:40 PM
@McMurdo - yeah, if Gunn is smart, he'd wait until Reeves' Batman finishes its boring run until introducing a WAY better Batman down the road.
And, I swear, down the road, Gunn better have plans for a Bat-Family type movie; whether he directs or not.
lazlodaytona
lazlodaytona - 11/19/2024, 3:42 PM
@Steel86 - the Reeves' Batman-verse needs to be swatted away like an annoying fly bugging your face.
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 11/19/2024, 1:41 PM
Sounds good to me , take your time!!.

Just give me Brandon Sklenar and Claudia Doumit as Bruce Wayne/Batman & Talia Al Ghul respectively.

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Nomis929
Nomis929 - 11/19/2024, 1:42 PM
For those who know...

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JonAwesome
JonAwesome - 11/19/2024, 1:54 PM
@Nomis929 - wtf?! What is this?
Nomis929
Nomis929 - 11/19/2024, 2:13 PM
@JonAwesome - It is from a 1987 graphic novel called 'Batman: Son of the Demon' by writer Mike W. Barr and artist Jerry Bingham. It was the original origin of Damian.

Although it was deemed to be non-canon now, Grant Morrison used elements of this story in "Batman and Son". but I actually think this was better.

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JonAwesome
JonAwesome - 11/19/2024, 2:21 PM
@Nomis929 - wow, thanks! I’m going to check this out!
MCUKnight11
MCUKnight11 - 11/19/2024, 1:44 PM
I'm all in on Brandon sklenar as the DCU Batman.
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TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 11/19/2024, 1:45 PM
Off topic:
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@JoshWilding

Skeleton Crew featurette.

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6of13
6of13 - 11/19/2024, 1:46 PM
I am glad they are putting story and characters first - substance first, and then style.
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 11/19/2024, 1:52 PM
@6of13 - agreed

It’s how it should be because without that , it’s just empty spectacle
lazlodaytona
lazlodaytona - 11/19/2024, 3:42 PM
@6of13 - right there with you sir
Conquistador
Conquistador - 11/19/2024, 1:47 PM
"and it's going to feature other members of the extended 'Bat-family', just because we feel like they've been left out of the Batman stories in the theater for far too long."

This warms my heart. This should really be at the centre to differ from the Nolan and Reeve movies. Batman as a father figure.
Steel86
Steel86 - 11/19/2024, 1:53 PM
@Conquistador - This is one of the biggest reasons I hated the DCEU wasn't done properly. I really loved the idea of a older Batman so we could jump right into having a Bat family. I enjoyed The Batman and Matt's universe but in honesty we've seen his type of Batman already.
Conquistador
Conquistador - 11/19/2024, 1:57 PM
@Steel86 - Agreed, older Bruce was a missed opportunity and Affleck would have been excellent. I didn't like the idea that the Robin who died was Grayson, but it's was never explicitly said in the movies so I'll go on thinking it was Jason. Had the script ever leaked for the Affleck movie that he was lined up to direct?
micvalpro
micvalpro - 11/19/2024, 2:03 PM
@Conquistador - Grayson grave was out in the Wayne manor yard with his parents. so its technically stated in the movie its Dick that died.
TheJok3r
TheJok3r - 11/19/2024, 2:04 PM
@Conquistador - Everyone who read it said it was amazing, and that it would've had both Batman and Batgirl team up against Deathstroke. Although Affleck's time in the suit is long behind him, I hope he at least gets to direct that movie one day with someone else as its Batman.
Conquistador
Conquistador - 11/19/2024, 2:08 PM
@micvalpro - oh for real! Dam...I missed that one. Well that dream is definitely dead now. 🤣 on the plus side I got the racist troll @HermanH to finally cave in and block me, so that evens out my day.
Conquistador
Conquistador - 11/19/2024, 2:10 PM
@TheJok3r - Oh yeah I'm positive he's not returning in any way, but it would be nice to know what could have been.
micvalpro
micvalpro - 11/19/2024, 2:13 PM
@Conquistador - Yea theres pics of it online. I like the alt Herman, that dudes funny.
Conquistador
Conquistador - 11/19/2024, 2:14 PM
@micvalpro - haha yeah I learnt the hard way he was the reverse troll. But got the actual one to give up.
lazlodaytona
lazlodaytona - 11/19/2024, 3:45 PM
@Steel86 - "I enjoyed The Batman and Matt's universe but in honesty we've seen his type of Batman already."

I agree with you that we've seen this Bats before, but I am disagreeing on enjoying it.
lazlodaytona
lazlodaytona - 11/19/2024, 3:52 PM
@Conquistador - because of thinking larger story at the time and assuming the general audience knew everything about all these characters' pasts, they forgot to treat each film individually and not worrying about making blatant scenes of instantly trying to get to the next film (WW seeing Cyborg, Arthur, and Barry on some computer in videos right before introducing Doomsday was just dumb as hell. #f***thesnyderverse
micvalpro
micvalpro - 11/19/2024, 2:01 PM
What I like about Gunns take, is that he just wants to tell good stories and not focus and every single characters origin in the first movie like Snyderverse was doing. We know Moree than enough about batman, superman, that we can jump right into a new story we havent seen on screen before and not be lost as to how we got there. I think his superman will open up that idea for the main audience.
THEDARKKNIGHT1939
THEDARKKNIGHT1939 - 11/19/2024, 2:06 PM
"He's a little son of a bitch. He's my favorite Robin."

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HashTagSwagg
HashTagSwagg - 11/19/2024, 2:09 PM
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DTor91
DTor91 - 11/19/2024, 3:26 PM
@HashTagSwagg - Lying internet grifter who is still upset Gunn called him out once before.
FireandBlood
FireandBlood - 11/19/2024, 2:14 PM
In other words, they’re struggling. This is that Batfleck movie all over again.
Mrnorth1921
Mrnorth1921 - 11/19/2024, 3:19 PM
@FireandBlood - as I see it, they don’t want to step on the Batman’s toes. Also, there is an influx of Batman productions out there. Don’t want to confuse the audience.
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