EDITORIAL: Does a DEADPOOL Movie Really Need to be R-Rated?

EDITORIAL: Does a DEADPOOL Movie Really Need to be R-Rated?

If he's truely one of the most popular comic book characters out there today, why doesn't Deadpool have his own movie yet? The answer is that pesky R-rating! But does his film really need to be R-rated to be good?

Editorial Opinion
By Gamester76 - May 18, 2014 09:05 PM EST
Filed Under: Deadpool

Wade Wilson. Weapon XI. The Merc With a Mouth. Love him or hate him, you can't deny that Deadpool has become one of the most popular comic book characters on newsstands today. With the character's first appearance coming up on twenty-five years (first appeared in New Mutants #98 in 1990; yes, it was that long ago), Deadpool has seen a recent explosion into mainstream.

Five years ago, few people would have been able to explain who Deadpool was. Oh sure, Daniel Way's run with the character (which began in 2008) was a good seller, but he had been largly a cult character prior to that, appearing first as a villain in several mini-series and guest appearances before getting a somewhat popular self-titled series in the late-nineties, which turned him into full blown anti-hero. That series ended in '02, and Deadpool was again relegated to sidekick status for Cable for a few years before finally retuning at the hands of Daniel Way in 2008, first for a five-issue arc of "Wolverine: Origins," before getting his own new series later that year.

But it wasn't until 2010 that Deadpool exploded in popularity. In addition to his own series, Deadpool was appearing in numerous spin-off comics, video games, television series, and had already been played by Ryan Reynolds in X-Men Origins: Wolverine a movie starring Hugh Jackman as Wolverine. And his populaity didn't wane when Way concluded his run on Deadpool with issue #63. Instead, the character seems to be more popular than ever, especially after High Moon Studios released Deadpool: The Video Game in 2013. Comics starring him consistently sell out and often see multiple printings! While he's not on the same level as Iron Man or Hulk, Deadpool has gone from cult-favorite to superstar! So why doesn't he have his own movie yet?

Well, that's not to say that it isn't being attempted. Zombieland writers Rhett Reese and Paul Wernick wrote the original screenplay for the film. After no movement on the project for so long, their script was "leaked" (I personally think they did it themselves as a PR stunt, but I digress) to overewhelmingly positive reviews. Ryan Reynolds remained attatched to star in the film, and Tim Miller was chosen to direct. And then... silence. People have popped up over the years like the gopher from Caddyshack to inform us the film was still on, but would be a ways off. However, no matter who did the talking, a constant factor for the holdup seemed to be this: the R-rating. Reese and Wernick's screenplay (the leaked draft; last word was they had revised it to fit Fox's new X-Men continuity, but it's unclear if they're still onboard), while insanely funny in the spirit of the character, was incredibly violent and foul, featuring over-the-top, almost comical action, sex and language so foul that they would make sailors blush, and a whole bunch of gore piled on top. Yeah, really R-rated stuff.

Of course, R-rated films can have a huge draw. The Hangover trilogy shattered box-office records for R-rated comedies, and the American Pie films proudly boasted the highest box-office for teen comedies at the turn of the millenium. But for a movie based on a comic book property, especially one who, despite his increased popularity among comic fans, is still an unknown entity among the mainstream, an R-rated action film based on Deadpool would be a huge risk for Fox; he's not a guaranteed audience draw like established characters such as Spider-Man or Wolverine, and no studio wants to spend $90 million on a character they aren't sure they can see a return on.

But with a PG-13, that opens them up to a larger, more marketable audience, and thus, larger returns at the box-office. And there is the rub: many believe that the trade-off for a PG-13 Deadpool cheapens the impact of the character, who simply has to have an R-rated film. But does he really have to have an R-rated film?

Now, before you grab your pitchforks and ropes and hang me from the nearest (rhymes with "digger") tree, let me explain. The same was once said (and can still be argued) for PG-13 horror films. With the PG-13, you can't have all the gore and violence you have with the majority of horror films, so you rely more on suspense and character building as opposed to a bloodbath. Many appreciate the slow tease of the horror, as opposed to a quick and bloody decapitation. For example, the underrated 2001 film The Others relies heavily on building suspense and using horriffic imagery to get underneath your skin and stay there. Other films, such as The Ring and Mama use similar techniques. So perhaps a PG-13 Deadpool film can work as well, if done correctly.


For starters, let's look at the foul language. Deadpool is called the Merc With a Mouth for a reason, but does he have to make you wonder if he kisses his mother with it? In a recent appearance on Disney XD's Ultimate Spider-Man, Deadpool appears more family-friendly, but he still manages to crack wise with his "booby traps" joke.

Perhaps this juvenile approach to his humor is just what the doctor ordered. By all means, have him cuss from time-to-time; name one superhero movie in the last thirty years that hasn't used at least one instance of sailor-talk! But replacing some of the fouler words like "f*ck" with off-the-wall phrases like "poopy-trim" (or even dubbing them over with odd, yet appropriate, sound-effects) might be a good way to showcase Deadpool's foul-mouthed nature to an audience who would be grounded for life if they used those words in front of their parents.

As for the violence, it could be done in such a way as to be PG-13 friendly, yet not pander to that audience and still be over-the-top insane. Picture Boondock Saints meets Three Stooges and you'll see what I mean. Example: towards the beginning of the screenplay, there is a bit where Deadpool fights a bunch of villains in the back of an Escalade. This sequence comes off as very Loony Tunes-esque, and the sequence even makes reference to Taz, the Tasmanian Devil.

Now this is just my thoughts on it if they absolutely have to go the PG-13 route. I personally am an advocate of a little thing called "creative control." If this film ever gets made, I want the people making it to have free reign to make whatever type of film they want with whatever budget and time frame they are given, regardless if the result winds up being PG-13 or R. I want them to make the best Deadpool film that they possible can, and would thoroughly enjoy watching Deadpool in all his gory, uh, glory.

Which is why I'm glad that the studio is taking their time with it and weighing their options on the film instead of rushing it to capitalize on a hot comodity. But if they take too long with it, I may be dead and buried before this film gets made. However, I said the same thing about a new Power Rangers film once upon a time...

What are your thoughts? Would you rather see an R-rated Deadpool, or would a movie that pushes the boundries of PG-13 still be a good one?

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OcciferPing
OcciferPing - 5/18/2014, 11:22 PM
I would like it to be rated R. But what matters above all is honoring the character and the source material. If they can pull that off in a PG-13 rating, then my hats off to them.
BawbScharf
BawbScharf - 5/19/2014, 12:25 AM
The Marvel Ultimate Alliance, the I am a Marvel; I am a DC action figure videos; The D-Piddy parody music videos. All uses of Dead Pool where the content was NOT R-Rated but the character was still funny and still FELT like the character. With the right script, right director and right actor a PG 13 Deadpool might even work better than an R-rated Deadpool. Without any limits there is a greater chance of 'overdoing it.'With a filter there would be more room for character and less for OTT violence and language that would distract form the character and story.
Alphadog
Alphadog - 5/19/2014, 12:31 AM
It would be funny if everytime he cursed there was a blip sound and he's aware of it. It's totally unexpected and it improves a lot of the comedy. You can really do a lot of jokes with it. You could also show his reaction to gore and stuff instead of actually showing the gore. Again, it adds a lot to the comedy because of what he would say. You could also have him comment on the PG-13 rating saying that he wants to see the nasty things. He could even try to move the camera but be unable to.
CrimsonDust
CrimsonDust - 5/19/2014, 3:11 AM
Yes, Deadpool needs an R rating, 300 was an R rated comic book movie and that made over $450 million dollars at the box office alone.

A lot of people felt like The Wolverine should have been rated R but the studios were frightened yet it ended up grossing less than the R rated 300 did.

I bet you if the studio hired Aronofsky and said give us the balls to the wall berserker Wolverine movie, it would have grossed more than its PG version.

A PG Deadpool movie would alienate more fans than it would bring in new fans.
kong
kong - 5/19/2014, 3:45 AM
I think it could work if Deadpool was introduced in an X-Force movie beforehand. The bleeping thing with the cuss words can happen throughout the movie, but just for him and he knows it and only him. Even if someone else cusses. Then towards the end he cusses, it bleeps, and then he turns to the camera, everything freezes (excluding him) and he says "Hey, If you want to see me do my thing without these *bleep*wads, come check out my solo movie next year on *release date here*"
CherryBomb
CherryBomb - 5/19/2014, 3:59 AM
Yeah introduce him through X-Force.
The X Men movies have a dark and gritty tone without needing to be R rated.

Klone
Klone - 5/19/2014, 4:03 AM
...Do we even need a Deadpool film full stop? He's as bad as Lobo: a tired parody that is still inferior to the original (Deathstroke and Wolverine).
BoomTubeB
BoomTubeB - 5/19/2014, 4:17 AM
R!
Archangel82
Archangel82 - 5/19/2014, 5:35 AM
Yes!
CherryBomb
CherryBomb - 5/19/2014, 6:49 AM
I don't think they'd do the "breaking the fourth wall" stuff that he's known for. I don't think I'd want to see it, I don't even think the general audience would want to see it.
DaVinci31
DaVinci31 - 5/19/2014, 9:28 AM
Yes.
Bearjew
Bearjew - 5/19/2014, 10:16 AM
Short answer: No shit he has to be rated R. Pussy.
CPIXLEY
CPIXLEY - 5/19/2014, 10:43 AM
Yes.
CPIXLEY
CPIXLEY - 5/19/2014, 10:44 AM
The script that leaked a while back is perfect.
MrBlackJack
MrBlackJack - 5/19/2014, 11:19 AM
This editorial deserves to be in the main just based off of it's thought and presentation alone!
MisterHolmes
MisterHolmes - 5/19/2014, 3:47 PM
id say write the script going in and not holding back, dont try to make it PG13 or R, just write and see what you get. Then you can edit and cut the script to make it the other way that it isnt and see what works
Doughdzm
Doughdzm - 5/19/2014, 3:59 PM
You lost me with that "digger tree" thing. What was implied by that
avo
avo - 5/20/2014, 5:01 AM
Yes.
Vortigar
Vortigar - 5/21/2014, 4:53 AM
No, it doesn't need to be rated R.

And I'd suggest doing it as an animated feature.

But you could go the other route.
Trickwil
Trickwil - 5/21/2014, 10:32 AM
I agree you could do it more slapsticky with a PG-13 but the script that everyone in Hollywood loves, that Reynolds wants to make and is currently talking about paying for himself, is R rated.
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