EDITORIAL: Can a Justice League Movie Work?

Will Warner Brothers be able to pull if off?

Editorial Opinion
By writerguy1976 - Jun 08, 2012 09:06 AM EST
Filed Under: Justice League

News broke this week that Warner Brothers is indeed developing a script for production of a Justice League movie. With the record breaking ticket sales of the Avengers this summer it didn't take a far leap to think that another studio would try and create another big screen team-up. Joss Whedon (Avengers Director) is on record as saying he thought it would be hard to bring the iconic DC team to the big screen due to the fact the heroes were created in a bygone era. But could Warner Brothers actually pull it off?



First of all we have to look at the characters themselves, and for the point of this article we will use the big original main six of the Justice League: Aquaman, Batman, Superman, The Flash, Wonder Woman, and Green Lantern. Warner Brothers has already said previously when they were working on a Justice League script and that the movie would be a standalone story not related to the other films with different actors playing the characters than we have seen before. Hence no Christian Bale as Batman or Ryan Reynolds as Green Lantern. To me this is a good thing. The reason why is that the DC characters really are icons, they simply don't need to use the same actors to recoginize who the characters are. You can't meet a person on the Earth who sees a bold red triangle of an "S" and doesn't immediately know that the character is Superman. Same goes for most people when they see the pointy ears of Batman, the lasso of Wonder Woman, the ring of Green Lantern, the orange shirt of Aquaman, or the yellow lightning bolt and the red suit of the Flash. People simply know these characters as they have been around for so long. The other aspect of having a storyline separate from the movies is that it avoids a problem that has always been a big issue in the DC Universe and that is in how all these characters fit together in one world. Just in the past few years in the comics this problem has tried to be addressed in the storylines of Crisis on Infinite Earths, the Green Lantern War, and even in the relaunch last year of the New 52.

A movie with these characters alone with different actors and no outside stories to tie in wouldn't be burdened by what we have seen in other films. Think about it, as great of a character as Batman is (No offense to Marvel but Batman is my personal favorite superhero) would he really need to exist if Superman was on Earth? Couldn't in one or two nights Superman simply dedicate himself to cleaning up the streets of Gotham and be much more efficient at it than Batman? A Justice League movie would not have to be burdened with these sorts of questions, simply make the enemy larger than life and put the heroes against it. Invasion of Darkseid perhaps? (Please! Please!) Not so much back-story would be needed, simply here is the problem and here is the heroes fighting to fix it. Arguably the Avengers needed the back-story of all the other movies to set up the characters along with their weaknesses so that the general public could relate to what they were seeing on the screen. For the Justice League, people already are very familiar with the characters, just plunge right into the story.



In fact in the Justice League cartoons DC managed to hit a great balance point for all the characters to work together. If Warner Brothers follows a similar approach to a full motion picture they can have success. The question is will they? Only time will tell.
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MrsTonyStark0507
MrsTonyStark0507 - 6/8/2012, 10:53 AM
Hey, the way I see it, if Marvel (more specifically Jon Favreau) can take a character that I had never even heard of, let alone knew anything about, and turn him into a total rock star, equally as big as Batman and Superman, than ANYTHING is possible. The DC characters aren't really my favorite (aside from Batman), but I would have said the same thing about Marvel not too long ago. Here's hoping it will be great!
MoonDoggyX
MoonDoggyX - 6/8/2012, 10:55 AM
Nice article! You bring up a very good points. Nolan's Batman is fighting for the very soul of Gotham, thats one of the reasons that it is so awesome. For that reason, I could definitely see a realistic-ish world with Superman still needing a Batman. At the same time, how could you have everyone in Arkham escape or Bane cut off the whole city without Superman showing up...? And the same would apply to all of the other movies. As soon as something so big happens that it would effect a whole city, why wouldn't Superman be there...?

Maybe, just maybe, instead of having a person(like nick fury) bring the team together to fight a threat, have the threat pull the team together. In the solo film, have easter eggs mentions the other heroes. News papers, internet news, T.V. screens, magazines etc. Also, there should be hints/ signs that something big is about to happen or coming. Keep the events of the of the solo films significant, but but still small enough that they wouldn't attract the media, at least until the movies resolution is played out. And then the after-credits scene or the very end of the movie, show a glimpse of something HUGE. Big enough to draw all of the heroes to the same location, but of course not revealing exactly what is going on. Have the Suspense build until the JL movie... It'd even be super cool to see Superman or the Batplane flying in the sky super far in the background in on of the other solo films...
HulkbusterNYC
HulkbusterNYC - 6/8/2012, 11:51 AM
As much as I would love to see a JLA movie I think that you're over estimating the characters popularity. Aside from Batman & Superman the general public doesn't kno jack about the other characters with the exception of the obvious; ie Flash is fast & Aquaman can breath under water. I highly doubt anyone knos their backstories or real names. This is why I believe the only way it would work and give the fans the JLA movie we all want they would have to introduce the heroes in their own films beforehand so people really get a better understanding on them. Thinking that they could cram 4 or 5 characters that have never been fully fleshed out and putting them next to 2 iconic characters like Supes and Bats wouldnt be fair to them honestly. Either Supes and Bats would have too much of the movie devoted to them or not enough of if they decide to give the others more time on screen because they are more obscure. I think the movie would feel rushed and incomplete.
BarnaclePete
BarnaclePete - 6/8/2012, 12:08 PM
Just because Marvel did it one way doesn't mean it is the only way. Hawkeye and and to a degree Black Widow, were given next to no time for any kind of back story. Did it impact them in the movie? Not at all. You still knew their deal. It would just be more important in how the character is introduced. Just look at the first arc in the new Justice League comic. When each character is introduced, it doesn't take long to see the modivation behind each of them within just a few pages. This method could easily be carried over to film. Really though, whether or not a Justice League movie would work or not is a stupid question. Of course it could work, and of course it could be a huge fail. It's all just dependent on who is making the movie and how it is made. We can sit around all day and ask questions about why would Superman need any help. Well he tends to need help in the comics. I could ask the same question about the Hulk. Clearly he could have beaten that whole army in the Avengers all by himself. Why did he need Captain America, Thor, etc? Oh and yea, I'm pretty sure most people have a pretty good idea who Wonder Woman is as well, so it's not like Batman and Superman are the only characters who are known well.
MisterFixit
MisterFixit - 6/8/2012, 12:15 PM
Even in the comics Batman is more
concerned with Gotam that of the rest. He's often been a reluctant member of the league, having even refused to convene several times, so this aspect of his character should be used.
And about references to other heroes,i think that the two easiest to implement are Superman/Gl (alien-member of an alien guard) and WW/Acquaman (it makes sense that the exponents of
two ancient and mythological civilizations may already be in contact with each other, as one lives below sea level, and the other lives on an island)

dezdigi
dezdigi - 6/8/2012, 12:59 PM
I keep hearing the idea of a Nick Fury type bringing the group together. I don't believe the JL would be motivated by or work with the government. In just about every origin, one of the the heroes brings the others together. I think Martian Manhunter is the perfect candidate for this position. He doesn't need to be introduced in an earlier film and his backstory can be part of the film's plot.
Coloso
Coloso - 6/8/2012, 1:30 PM
@BarnaclePete well thought out response but I don't agree. Black Widow and Hawkeye were introduced in Thor and Iron Man 2 so people knew their deal going into Avengers. Yeah they didn't have an origin film but the audience wasn't blindsided by them in Avengers and so logicaly made sense when they showed up.

As strong as Hulk is he is only one against an army that kept coming through the open gate. Without help from his teammates he would have been overwhelmed as they would have concentrated on him versus having to deal with Thor/Cap/Iron Man/Hawkeye/Black Widow.

Face it, people know Batman & Superman like the back of their hand. WB/DC made sure of it with their relentless films over the last 40 years. Wonder Woman? Flash? not so much. Of course people have heard of them but they don't have near as much draw as some think. Just like Thor, Iron Man, and Cap they need to be introduced to this new generation of moviegoers so they can build a relationship that will carry over into a Justice League film.
BarnaclePete
BarnaclePete - 6/8/2012, 2:07 PM
@Coloso . . Hawkeye was introduced in Thor? Hardly. He was just thrown in there as a treat for the fans. To the average viewer he was just a random Shield guy.

The second Hulk took out the flying thing with one punch and then after what he did to Loki it was shown that he could take any of them down. There was no vulnerability.

Also, I don't think we should underestimate all of the kids who grew up watching the Justice League cartoons and the ones watching Young Justice now. Of course it's not like they are going to be experts, but it's enough to perk their interest. Ensemble movies come out all the time and as a viewer we don't know anything about these characters going in to it. I would think that if someone knows something about just one or two of the characters going in is pretty good. Why is that we think it should be any different because it's a super hero movie?? It really isn't. We just like to think that it is. Look at movies like Pulp Fiction or The Usual Suspects. Nobody would know anything about any of the characters going into watching those movies, and you don't need to. As long as the characters are set up properly when they are introduced in the movie and each one is given some screen time to show their character and how they interact with each other, whether or not I know who Aquaman is shouldn't matter.
muzillu
muzillu - 6/8/2012, 3:35 PM
no, i don't agree with you. just because they're iconic doesn't mean you can just plonk the superheroes in a standalone film. if you do that, the film will flop. i'm sorry but the only formula that will work here is marvel's, and i'm a DC fan
MaximusRodd
MaximusRodd - 6/9/2012, 6:38 PM
Will Warner Brothers be able to pull if off?

In short-- no.
There is absolutely no evidence from any of their previous ventures or business decisions that says they can.
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