JUSTICE LEAGUE: 6 Shocking Revelations From AVENGERS Director Joss Whedon's Tell-All Interview

JUSTICE LEAGUE: 6 Shocking Revelations From AVENGERS Director Joss Whedon's Tell-All Interview

Joss Whedon has finally responded to allegations about Justice League, Buffy the Vampire Slayer, and even Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D., and we're breaking down those comments and the reactions to them thus far!

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By HamiltonParker - Jan 18, 2022 12:01 PM EST
Filed Under: Justice League

Between Buffy the Vampire Slayer, Firefly, Astonishing X-Men, and The Avengers, Joss Whedon was once one of the most beloved figures in the fan community. However, his star soon fell when Justice League actor Ray Fisher levelled a series of allegations at the filmmaker relating to his conduct on set. 

The floodgates then opened, and we soon learned that the director behind two of Marvel Studios' most successful films might not be the nice guy we all thought. 

In a recent profile, Whedon finally responded to almost all of these accusations, but his comments haven't exactly changed anyone's perceptions. Essentially blaming everyone else for his issues, Joss categorically denied much of what has been said and hit back with some claims of his own. 

Below, we've rounded up the most noteworthy remarks about what happened with Justice League, including responses from Fisher and Gal Gadot. We also have details on problems that occurred on the sets of Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. and Buffy the Vampire Slayer, all of which paint the picture of undeniably toxic work environments. 
 

6. Clashing With Justice League's Cast

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Asked how he came to be involved with Justice League, Whedon says "They asked me to fix it, and I thought I could help." Now, he calls it one of the biggest regrets of his life, and what started as a writing and advising role soon saw him placed in the director's chair. 

Whedon alleges that this came about once Warner Bros. lost faith in Snyder's vision, though the studio denies that.

Overseeing 40 days of reshoots, there was reportedly immediate tension between the filmmaker and his cast. While Snyder had given them a lot of creative control, allowing ad-libbing and improvisation, Whedon wanted them to stick to what he'd written. This was negatively received, and Whedon claims Gal Gadot suggested he didn't know how superhero movies worked despite helming billion-dollar blockbusters like The Avengers and Avengers: Age of Ultron

Tensions ran so high that Whedon at one point paused the shoot and declared he had never worked with "a ruder group of people," according to one crew member.
 

5. Joss Whedon vs. Wonder Woman

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Once upon a time, Whedon penned a screenplay for a Wonder Woman movie that has since been described as creepy and sexist. You'd think he'd have jumped at the chance to work with Gadot given his history with the character, but it sounds like they didn't get on from the start. 

Responding to her allegations that he threatened her career, Whedon responds: "I don’t threaten people. Who does that? English is not her first language, and I tend to be annoyingly flowery in my speech." He then reflected on a scene she wanted to cut, leading to him joking that if she wanted that to happen, she'd need to tie him to a railroad track and do it over his dead body.

"Then I was told that I had said something about her dead body and tying her to the railroad track," he added, leading to Gadot issuing a blunt response to Whedon's claims. 

"I understood perfectly," she says. "I will never work with him and would never suggest any of my peers to work with him in the future."
 

4. Responding To Ray Fisher

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Ray Fisher was the first to bring attention to Whedon's on-set behaviour during Justice League's reshoots, and the director claims to have been "stunned" by the actor saying he lightened the skin tone of Black actors during post-production. 

The director says there were two reasons he cut down Fisher's Cyborg role. The first was the storyline "logically made no sense" to him, while the second was that Whedon felt his acting was bad (a sentiment fans and critics don't agree with after the overwhelmingly positive response to his work in Zack Snyder's Justice League).

The site has spoken to sources claiming that test screenings saw Cyborg named "the worst of all the characters in the film," so we're not sure what changed there. Regardless, Whedon says he spent hours having "friendly and respectful" conversations with Fisher, and argues that none of the allegations made are "either true or merited discussing."

As for what led to Fisher speaking out, it appears he blames Snyder. "We’re talking about a malevolent force. We’re talking about a bad actor in both senses." Later he'd say, "I don’t know who started it. I just know in whose name it was done."
 

3. Whedon Hits Back At The Fans

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Fisher gave many of the #ReleaseTheSnyderCut supporters the ammunition they needed to try and convince Warner Bros. to restore Snyder's original vision for Justice League (a plan that ultimately worked). 

Whedon believes that those who started attacking him online "don’t give a f**k about feminism," and says he was "made a target by my ex-wife, and people exploited that cynically. She put out a letter saying some bad things I’d done and saying some untrue things about me, but I had done the bad things and so people knew I was gettable."

As for how he feels now about the way his once faithful fandom have turned their back on him, Whedon adds: "The beginning of the internet raised me up, and the modern internet pulled me down. The perfect symmetry is not lost on me."

The director is certainly playing the victim here, but how does he feel about those Buffy and Marvel allegations?
 

2. Agents Of S.H.I.E.L.D. Controversy

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On the MCU side of things, no one has ever really spoken negatively about Whedon. In fact, he was featured heavily in The Story of Marvel Studios book, which is not surprising given his involvement with the company, but also something of a shock after the allegations surrounding him in recent years. 

Erin Shade met Whedon in 2013 after becoming a showrunner's assistant on Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. "He was 49; she was 23 and a virgin," reads the report. "One day, Whedon texted her with an unusual request: Would she come over to his house for the weekend to watch him write? He would pay $2,500 more than Shade made in a month as an assistant. There was one caveat: She had to hide it from her bosses."

They dated on and off for a year before she slept with him, though Whedon would later email her to say he couldn't have a girlfriend. Years later, she reflected on his abuse of power and, to that, he simply says he "should have handled the situation better."

Throughout the piece, Whedon talks about a traumatic childhood and reveals that he felt he had to have sex with the younger women he worked with because of an addiction that meant he feared he'd always regret not doing so. Now, he looks back at that time with "horror."
 

1. Those Buffy The Vampire Slayer Allegations

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As controversial as those Justice League reshoots might be, much has been said about what happened on the set of Buffy the Vampire Slayer as well. Costume designer Cynthia Bergstrom says a disagreement with Whedon over Sarah Michelle Gellar's wardrobe choice led to him grabbing her arm and digging his fingers in until she pointed out he was hurting her.

A Firefly writer says Whedon mocked a female scriber mercilessly for 90 minutes after deeming her work as not being up to par, and the filmmaker's response...it's not great, folks. "I was young," he argues. "I yelled, and sometimes you had to yell. If I am upsetting somebody, it will be a problem for me. I don’t believe that. I know I would get angry, but I was never physical with people."

Responding to Charisma Carpenter's many allegations (particularly in regards to her pregnancy), Whedon admits: "I was not mannerly. Most of my experiences with Charisma were delightful and charming. She struggled sometimes with her lines, but nobody could hit a punch line harder than her. I did not call her fat. Of course I didn’t."

You can read much more by heading to Vulture for their full report. 
 

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GhostDog
GhostDog - 1/18/2022, 12:05 PM
“… that he felt he had to have sex with the younger women he worked on him because of an addiction that meant he feared he'd always regret not doing so…”

Da [frick]

Feralwookiee
Feralwookiee - 1/18/2022, 12:06 PM
Overly sensitive wealthy people virtue signaling- The article.
ModHaterSLADE
ModHaterSLADE - 1/18/2022, 12:12 PM
Seems with trying to explain himself he just reaffirms what people were already saying about him being a creep/douche.
dracula
dracula - 1/18/2022, 12:12 PM
Guy clearly has a lot of issues.

If he is seeking help for that stuff wish him the best there.

Really, if he wants to work, write a book or comic, much less potential drama there. His greatest strength is his writing anyway
DudeGuy
DudeGuy - 1/18/2022, 12:13 PM
"Then I was told that I had said something about her dead body and tying her to the railroad track,"
That’s a hell of an accusation
MyCoolYoung
MyCoolYoung - 1/18/2022, 12:19 PM
I don’t know joss so I don’t judge him. Only thing I know is that, The work will continue today you best believe that
OmegaDaGrodd
OmegaDaGrodd - 1/18/2022, 12:21 PM
Didn't make it through the whole article but I'm really trying to figure out who Whedon thought was gonna read all that and come out the other side looking at him in a more positive light. If anything he exposed even more of his own issues while only disparaging the JL situation in ways no one was going to care about

And while based on the Snyder Cut clips I've seen I'm sure Fisher isn't a good actor, pointing that out on Fisher when almost *every* main character in JL was cast with bad actors doesn't really move any needles. Whedon and Fisher's stance are both impossible to empathize with because they're addicted to putting too much dip on their respective chips
philinterrupted
philinterrupted - 1/18/2022, 12:36 PM
@OmegaDaGrodd - it’s funny how much press this Whedon Justice League stuff got when there really isn’t any new info. It wasn’t a mystery that Joss is an asshole. He didn’t do anything illegal but he certainly doesn’t work well with others.
If only Ray could have handled this situation differently and not dragged it out for the better part of a year when there wasn’t much new to drag anyway.
OmegaDaGrodd
OmegaDaGrodd - 1/18/2022, 12:43 PM
@originalmrphil - Exactly, pretty much just created another opportunity for everyone to say "F#%k Whedon" and "Shut up Ray" all over again.

Whedon doesn't even seem to know how to make fairly reasonable explanations for some of the issues without sounding like a jerk, but the winds been taken out of *that* being problematic because Fisher spent two damn years trying his hardest to sensationalize the fact that......Joss Whedon is a jerk.
PhoenixBlade
PhoenixBlade - 1/18/2022, 12:21 PM
That’s a whole lot of pent-up anger. Probably because he hasn’t been able to release it on some actors in awhile.
TheWalkingCuban
TheWalkingCuban - 1/18/2022, 12:22 PM
I still like avengers, article title
TheHumanSpider2
TheHumanSpider2 - 1/18/2022, 12:25 PM
@TheWalkingCuban - Always separate the person from the artist.

I will keep seeing The Avengers, Days of Future Past, Seven, etc...
dracula
dracula - 1/18/2022, 12:27 PM
@TheWalkingCuban - his stuff is still good, despite him being an asshole


Lots of shitty people involved in good shows and movies
GeneralZod
GeneralZod - 1/18/2022, 12:45 PM
@TheWalkingCuban -
Nightwing1015
Nightwing1015 - 1/18/2022, 3:15 PM
@TheHumanSpider2 - What bad people worked on Seven? What did they do?
TheHumanSpider2
TheHumanSpider2 - 1/18/2022, 5:52 PM
@Nightwing1015 -
Nightwing1015
Nightwing1015 - 1/19/2022, 11:10 AM
@TheHumanSpider2 - Haha forgot about him. I thought you meant writers/directors.
tmp3
tmp3 - 1/18/2022, 12:23 PM
Whedon taking the time out to do a New Yorker piece that only makes him look even worse is definitely... a move.
BuzzKillington
BuzzKillington - 1/18/2022, 12:23 PM
TheHumanSpider2
TheHumanSpider2 - 1/18/2022, 12:24 PM
We knew he was an asshole, but the interview proved he is also delusional.

tmp3
tmp3 - 1/18/2022, 12:27 PM
@TheHumanSpider2 - And was responsible for the death of his 4 year old family friend when he was 5. That's exactly what he needed to say to improve his public image
TheHumanSpider2
TheHumanSpider2 - 1/18/2022, 12:28 PM
@tmp3 - Wait, what!?
dracula
dracula - 1/18/2022, 12:29 PM
@tmp3 - dont think many people would blame a 5 year old for a death but yeah weird thing to bring up
VileBlood
VileBlood - 1/18/2022, 12:33 PM
@tmp3 - What a weird way to interpret his statement. You must be an expert detective and police officer to deduce he was responsible for the death of that child.
tmp3
tmp3 - 1/18/2022, 12:33 PM
@TheHumanSpider2 - He talks about how he brought his family friend to the pond near his house when he was 5 and just left him there, and the next day they found the kid's body. idk why he felt the need to bring that up at all
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