JUSTICE LEAGUE Director Zack Snyder On Why He Prefers Ben Affleck's Batman Over Christian Bale's Dark Knight

JUSTICE LEAGUE Director Zack Snyder On Why He Prefers Ben Affleck's Batman Over Christian Bale's Dark Knight

Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice director Zack Snyder has revealed what he believes gives Ben Affleck's Caped Crusader and advantage over Christian Bale's Dark Knight, and it all comes down to height...

By JoshWilding - Mar 09, 2024 09:03 AM EST
Filed Under: Justice League

When the news broke that Ben Affleck had been cast as the DCEU's Dark Knight in Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice, the response was undeniably mixed. 

The actor ultimately proved his detractors wrong and, despite starring one some very hit-or-miss movies, made his mark as the iconic DC Comics superhero. Unfortunately, the DCU reboot means his time wearing the cape and cowl has ended. 

We don't know who Affleck's successor will be, but Robert Pattinson has already taken over the role in Matt Reeves' The Batman franchise. Before the Daredevil star suited up, it was Christian Bale who brought Bruce Wayne to life on screen in Christopher Nolan's The Dark Knight Trilogy

Talking to Joe Rogan earlier this week, Justice League director Zack Snyder shared his take on what gives Affleck's Batman an advantage over Bale's.

"That's the reason why I wanted [Ben] Affleck, because, to me, Batman's a big dude," Snyder said. "Affleck's 6'4", you know? He's a legit big dude. And the shoes, the boots are like two inches, so he's literally almost 6'6" in the costume. When he comes out in the costume - I mean, we put some muscle on him, and there's a muscle suit under the suit, and he's, legitimately, a scary-looking thing."

"You know, he's just standing there, and you're like, 'Holy sh*t.' Like, dude...the chin is so insane, in that cowl. I mean, look at him, he's legitimately, that's Batman to me."

Rogan brought up Bale's interpretation to which Snyder simply said, "He's a great Batman, but he's still, like, you know, 5'10" (he later clarified that he was "not being rude" and simply prefers the bulkier Batman from certain comic books). 

It's clear Frank Miller's The Dark Knight Returns was a big source of inspiration for the filmmaker during his stint in the DCEU, something Snyder reiterated while discussing Batman's build. 

"If you look at Dark Knight Returns, there's a line where he's trying to hold someone's gun, and his finger can't get in the trigger guard because he's so big," he explained. "I like things like that. He has this genetic gift of just being this big f***ing dude."

"And, other than that, his parents were murdered in front of him, and he's also a billionaire...You want it to not just be one of those things, right? It needs to be all of them in order for him to do what he can do."

Who do you think is the best big screen Batman? Let us know in the comments section.

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RolandD
RolandD - 3/9/2024, 10:01 AM
Because I directed him.
Goldboink
Goldboink - 3/9/2024, 1:12 PM
@RolandD -
Right? And it’s all about how he looks. Clooney was better bat nipples and all
Biggums
Biggums - 3/9/2024, 2:32 PM
He ain't lying. Categorically, batfleck was the teats.
Fogs
Fogs - 3/9/2024, 4:32 PM
@RolandD - There's no comparison, the TDK trilogy destroys any Snyder DC stuff, but tbh I prefer Affleck over Bale as Bats/Bruce.
RolandD
RolandD - 3/9/2024, 9:06 PM
@Fogs - I definitely agree with your first response. I am torn on the second part. Bale’s Batman was always looking for an exit strategy. I don’t think canon Batman ever believes that there will be a day where he isn’t needed. Affleck’s Batman was more impressive although aspects of his character were all wrong.
Fogs
Fogs - 3/10/2024, 7:14 AM
@RolandD - Sorry, I wasn't clear. I'm referring more to how he looks and sounds. The writing was all wrong, yeah.

But to be fair I don't think anybody ever got Batman totally right in movies yet. The closest IMO was Begins.
RolandD
RolandD - 3/10/2024, 10:10 AM
@Fogs - it sounds like we agree on all counts, although I thought The Batman was also very good.
Fogs
Fogs - 3/10/2024, 11:50 AM
@RolandD - I wanted to like The Batman. But a newbie bats was represented a thousand times better in Begins. Great visuals though.
RolandD
RolandD - 3/10/2024, 1:26 PM
@Fogs - We definitely got to know who he was better than Batman Begins, which was a great story. I still have hopes for the new series to improve.
bkmeijer1
bkmeijer1 - 3/9/2024, 10:06 AM
I like the more bulkier Batman as well, which is also part of the reason I don't mind seeing Alan Ritchson in the role. Leaving the agility to the sidekicks would be a cool duality to see in fights on screen
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 3/9/2024, 10:10 AM
@bkmeijer1 - fair enough

That would be cool

I still don’t know about him being able to play Bruce entirely (both publicly & privately) but he would nail Batman, dude has the physicality & presence.

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bkmeijer1
bkmeijer1 - 3/9/2024, 10:32 AM
@TheVisionary25 - yeah, I'm not sure either as I haven't seen him in any roles I could really compare it too. Think he'll get the brooding right, but don't know about the public persona yet.
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 3/9/2024, 10:38 AM
@bkmeijer1 - yeah , same.

He does have charisma and can be funny so maybe
JonAwesome
JonAwesome - 3/9/2024, 10:56 AM
@bkmeijer1 - I see Alan Ritchson as a great Batman with sidekicks and a son, it reminds me of the later seasons of Batman The Animated Series when he was more of a stoic presence especially when his sidekicks were around. He had that experience.
XtremeXFan
XtremeXFan - 3/9/2024, 12:05 PM
@bkmeijer1 - Ritchson would be a beast as Batman, and I could see him be charming and snarky Bruce Wayne
bkmeijer1
bkmeijer1 - 3/9/2024, 2:53 PM
@TheVisionary25 @JonAwesome @XtremeFan - after Reacher S2, I think Ritchson has good banter chemistry with everybody. Think he'll play nice off of the sidekicks
TheNightmareVirus
TheNightmareVirus - 3/9/2024, 4:35 PM
@TheVisionary25 - Alan Ritchson absolutely has the ability to play Bruce Wayne as well as Batman. Anyone who has seen him play Thad Castle on Blue Mountain State knows that he has the ability to be hilarious and not just the super brooding Jack Reacher.

Alan Ritchson, in my mind, is the perfect person to play Batman.
McMurdo
McMurdo - 3/9/2024, 4:40 PM
@bkmeijer1 - I can see him in the role too man.
Doomsday8888
Doomsday8888 - 3/9/2024, 10:06 AM
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I know BatAffleck would fosho eat Rises Bane for breakfast, i'll give him that, lel.
GhostDog
GhostDog - 3/9/2024, 10:07 AM
Because he’s MY BATMAN
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 3/9/2024, 10:08 AM
Honestly , seems like a pretty standard answer from Snyder where he prefers the visuals over the actual character so I’m not surprised by the response.

Affleck does look more like Bruce/Batman to me , dudes pretty much BTAS’s version come to life…



However , I felt Bale embodied the character more and made me care about his version which wasn’t the case with Affleck (no fault of his imo , moreso due to Snyder’s execution).

Ultimately it just boils down to preference more , I’ll gladly take character over visuals any day.
bkmeijer1
bkmeijer1 - 3/9/2024, 10:33 AM
@TheVisionary25 - Affleck definitely felt like he was a Batman drawing (either animated show or comic) come to life.

And I like how Bale and Affleck both had different public personas. Bale had the millionaire playboy, whereas Affleck had the businessman.
AnthonyVonGeek
AnthonyVonGeek - 3/9/2024, 10:08 AM
Still the best Batman fight scene that I’ve seen.
AmazingFILMporg
AmazingFILMporg - 3/9/2024, 10:32 AM
@AnthonyVonGeek -


It was a great scene but that's about it when it comes to aflecks Batman.


Bales Batman was complex and deep. Snyder's Batman was surface level teenage kid bullshit 🖖
JonAwesome
JonAwesome - 3/9/2024, 10:54 AM
@AmazingFILMporg - I disagree! Affleck’s Batman had that obsession, he had that psychological damage that made a very true to Batman. This is a Batman that has been through the wringer and is not the same on the other side. I feel like his Batman is encompasses all of those complexities without holding your hand. That’s why I find what they did to him in Joss Whedon’s Justice League and The Flash to be so appalling! I think that people’s problem with Affleck Batman is who he is at this pert of the journey. Who we really wanted to see was the Batman he was before his Robin was Murdered.
MyCoolYoung
MyCoolYoung - 3/9/2024, 11:07 AM
@AnthonyVonGeek - great scene that made no sense within the context of the movie.
MCUKnight11
MCUKnight11 - 3/9/2024, 10:08 AM
The reason why I don't think Batfleck worked that well in regards to killing is because to use a Marvel analogy, it would be like doing a superior story (Spider-man or Iron man) or Symbiote saga as the first entry in a larger story that would span 5-10 movies.
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 3/9/2024, 10:13 AM
@MCUKnight11 - I think having this older Bruce that has lost his way as a hero and through Superman’s i impact on him begins to make his way back to being that sounds like a cool & interesting idea but sadly it just wasn’t executed real well imo.
Evansly
Evansly - 3/9/2024, 10:24 AM
@TheVisionary25 - And if he is killing there is no way the Joker is still alive
DocSpock
DocSpock - 3/9/2024, 10:09 AM

Because he is deranged. This explains a lot about the dead DCFU SnyderVerse.

I can't wait for the Snyder cut of this interview.
WakandanQueen
WakandanQueen - 3/9/2024, 10:11 AM
Imagine if he was like "nah, he's not my favorite take on Batman".
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 3/9/2024, 10:15 AM
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