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MrDandy
MrDandy - 1/18/2023, 12:04 PM
Wow. A Josh list I 100% agree with. It’s a new year miracle!!!
roboticJohnson
roboticJohnson - 1/18/2023, 12:07 PM
I would swap wenwu and gorr
Goldboink
Goldboink - 1/18/2023, 12:33 PM
@roboticJohnson -
Except they are both well and truly dead
roboticJohnson
roboticJohnson - 1/18/2023, 12:42 PM
@Goldboink - that's also a good point
tmp3
tmp3 - 1/18/2023, 12:07 PM
all-time wastes of bale & hawke in this phase. d'onofrio's new kingpin was ass. leung & dafoe mvps though. haven't seen wakanda forever but heard namor was good.
AmazingFILMporg
AmazingFILMporg - 1/18/2023, 12:10 PM
How you cast christian bale and do him like that😳....





Marvel dropped the ball badly with him.😐
DocSpock
DocSpock - 1/18/2023, 12:11 PM


Worst segment in anything MCU last year:

The whole Thor dealing with hair-lipped wimpy Zeus scene. Just awful.

whatevtrev
whatevtrev - 1/18/2023, 12:16 PM
Stop saying “we”. Gorr was underused but I would love to see him again. You don’t speak for all of us Josh!
cubichy
cubichy - 1/18/2023, 2:11 PM
@whatevtrev - Gorr was utter trash, his power level, makeup, story, all of it was dogshit. What we saw onscreen have ZERO redeeming qualities. @taika destroyed Thor and Gorr in Love and Blunder.
Variant
Variant - 1/18/2023, 2:46 PM
@whatevtrev - Seriously.

@JoshWilding - What makes you think "we" all want the same thing?
LilJimmy
LilJimmy - 1/18/2023, 12:17 PM
"....but Kellyman isn't a great actress...."

Glad to see someone finally say it
MasterMix
MasterMix - 1/18/2023, 12:24 PM
@LilJimmy - I honestly don't know why she gets so much work.
EZBeast
EZBeast - 1/18/2023, 12:34 PM
@MasterMix - pretty sure she checks off a lot of boxes when it comes to casting for Disney. She’s young, maybe she can improve with time?…
FireandBlood
FireandBlood - 1/18/2023, 1:06 PM
@MasterMix - Right? She’s god awful.
AC1
AC1 - 1/18/2023, 12:25 PM
With Captain Marvel and Black Widow setting a precedent for Marvel making sort of "prequel" movies, if Robert Downey Jr and Tony Leung were ever willing to reprise their Marvel roles I'd love an Iron Man movie set between Infinity War and Endgame the finally pitted Iron Man against this amazing take on The "Mandarin"

Obviously there would have to be a reason for them not to kill each other in the end (maybe Wenwu actually wins but spares Tony when he finds out he's gonna be a dad, sympathising with him one father to another, and then Tony semi-retires again before the events of Endgame) but I genuinely think it could be really special given how interesting and well rounded Wenwu was as a character.

Also gotta say, I'm a fan of Taika Waititi, and I loved Ragnarok, but Love & Thunder was a pretty big misstep, and Gorr was probably the biggest casualty of that. Merging two already pretty big storylines (Gorr's revenge against the Gods, and Jane Foster's battle with cancer while wielding Mjolnir as the new Thor) along with Thor dealing with the events of Endgame all in one movie was already kinda risky, but then hacking that movie down to under 2 hours was always going to destroy whatever chance they had left of making a good movie.

And Gorr's appearance was pretty unimpressive and I can't help but feel that that's also a story issue; they could've had pre-God-Butcher Gorr look as he did in the movie, but then they should've used the Necrosword (especially with its ties to the symbiotes in the comics) to alter his appearance and make him look as vicious and menacing as he does in the comics similar to how the symbiotes cover their hosts. If they can make Thanos as believable and expressive as they did and still make him somewhat recognisable as Josh Brolin, they definitely could've done the same with Gorr and Christian Bale, and the excuse that they wanted to avoid Voldemort comparisons is just silly.
Tigreblanco21
Tigreblanco21 - 1/18/2023, 12:25 PM
Namor isn't a villain. But if he were, he would be in wrong list.
EZBeast
EZBeast - 1/18/2023, 12:37 PM
Honestly besides Namor why would you want any of those villains to comeback? They finished their stories so let them rest. I’m yeah I know scarlet witch will have to come back but she doesn’t need to for a long while and the new version of the kingpin is just…ehhh…
FireandBlood
FireandBlood - 1/18/2023, 12:43 PM
Flag Smasher is easily the worse comic book movie/show villain in recent memory. I don’t think there’s been anyone that bad since Sharon Stone in Catwoman, and I’d argue even she weren’t that bad. And I don’t only blame the writing, but the actress just plain sucks. She sucked in Solo as well. Not sure what clout she’s got with Disney to be getting these roles but please, no more of her.

Other than that, besides a few more misses like Gorr and the Clandestines from Ms. Marvel, Phase 4 has been pretty top tier for villains. Wanda, Wenwu, and especially Green Goblin and Namor were brilliant!
tmp3
tmp3 - 1/19/2023, 6:09 AM
@PlusUltra - she's pretty bad in green knight too for her short screen-time
Thing94
Thing94 - 1/18/2023, 12:44 PM
Flag Smasher was awful
MCUKnight11
MCUKnight11 - 1/18/2023, 12:47 PM
Villains are actually one of the stronger elements of Phase 4. I thought most were pretty solid. Only real duds I thought were Taskmaster, Kro, Flag smasher, and the clandestine.
marvel72
marvel72 - 1/18/2023, 12:55 PM
Kingpin,Norman Osborn and Scarlet Witch f*ck the rest.
tb86
tb86 - 1/18/2023, 1:04 PM
Gorr was one of the few things in Love and Thunder that worked, for me at least.
cubichy
cubichy - 1/18/2023, 2:17 PM
@tb86 - Dude, Gorr was dogshit, all of it. Love and blunder had ZERO qualities. Gorr is an awesome villain, more powerful than Thanos without the gems, but you never see any of that. Makeup was awful and kidnapping kiddies, pathetic story, it was just a waste, all of it. Blunder was the works marvel movie, massive potholes with eternity, a meandering power rangers' episode, utter trash.
slickrickdesigns
slickrickdesigns - 1/18/2023, 2:41 PM
@tb86 - Agree, if anyone actually did their job in that movie it was Bales Gorr. Too bad they cut his god killing scenes.
Lokiwasright
Lokiwasright - 1/18/2023, 1:48 PM
I bet you are a God or Gorr killed your God which is why you have him up there
ImBatman4realz
ImBatman4realz - 1/18/2023, 2:32 PM
Why are Josh’s posticles so dramatic? “Never want to see again” 🙄….

The dude is expert at sounding mediocre 24/7 LMFAO
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