BLACK PANTHER Screenwriter Thinks Iron Man Would Be Viewed Differently Now Than Before

BLACK PANTHER Screenwriter Thinks Iron Man Would Be Viewed Differently Now Than Before

Iron Man gained a lot of attention back in 2008; basically kick-starting the Marvel Cinematic Universe as we know it. However, would it get a different response if it was released today?

By KWilly - Mar 12, 2018 06:03 AM EST
Filed Under: Marvel Studios
We all know Iron Man as the charismatic, cunning billionaire playboy. Since 2008, he's featured in seven Marvel movies, which have all been big hits on their own. Although, let's say we take the first Iron Man movie, and drop him in our current time now. Black Panther screenwriter Joe Robert Cole thinks he would receive a much different response from the audience. 

"Think about where we are now, with this very vapid, unintelligent president and our world is crackling on the edges because of that," Cole said at the SXSW panel on Saturday. "Think back to Tony Stark, him being douchey and being okay. If that character, Stark, was created in a movie today, I wonder if the response would be like, 'Oh, it's cool that he's douchey and disrespectful to women ... that's fine.' I think we're at a different place. I think it's a better place."

It's definitely an insightful and thought provoking message he brought out. Whether it's true or not remains to be his opinion, but it is interesting to ponder on. Regardless of that, Iron Man has proved to be a very popular character in this generation. Robert Downey Jr turned a B-List character into one of the most highly known superheroes around. Next time we see him will be in Avengers: Infinity War on April 27th.

What are your thoughts on this? Would Iron Man be received differently today?

RUMOR: Two Groups Of Characters Marvel Studios Is Considering For Upcoming Animated Movie Have Been Revealed
Related:

RUMOR: Two Groups Of Characters Marvel Studios Is Considering For Upcoming Animated Movie Have Been Revealed

RUMOR: KILL BILL Star Uma Thurman Eyed For MCU Role; Updates On BLACK PANTHER Casting And New Animated Series
Recommended For You:

RUMOR: KILL BILL Star Uma Thurman Eyed For MCU Role; Updates On BLACK PANTHER Casting And New Animated Series

DISCLAIMER: As a user generated site and platform, ComicBookMovie.com is protected under the DMCA (Digital Millenium Copyright Act) and "Safe Harbor" provisions.

This post was submitted by a user who has agreed to our Terms of Service and Community Guidelines. ComicBookMovie.com will disable users who knowingly commit plagiarism, piracy, trademark or copyright infringement. Please CONTACT US for expeditious removal of copyrighted/trademarked content. CLICK HERE to learn more about our copyright and trademark policies.

Note that ComicBookMovie.com, and/or the user who contributed this post, may earn commissions or revenue through clicks or purchases made through any third-party links contained within the content above.

1 2 3
Ray2407
Ray2407 - 3/12/2018, 7:24 AM
Whilst I dO understand the point being made, I don't understand the notion that absolutely everything has to be politically correct. Its Tony Stark for frick sake what do you expect
PantherKing
PantherKing - 3/12/2018, 7:24 AM
Wtf man. Leave Iron man alone. He will cause a PR nightmare attacking a character from the same studio you just worked with.
Kumkani
Kumkani - 3/12/2018, 8:00 AM
@PantherKing - If you think he's attacking the character, you kinda missed the point. Hell you might even be proving his point.
PantherKing
PantherKing - 3/12/2018, 8:07 AM
@BlindWedjat - Oh he definitely attacked the caharacter alright. This is fiction. I know people are all for women’s rights and stuff but that was part of his character arc to grow and learn from past mistakes. He clearly doesn’t get that.
Kumkani
Kumkani - 3/12/2018, 8:22 AM
@PantherKing - That's not what he is saying. When you watched Iron Man for the first time, did you see the womanizing aspects of Tony Stark past and present life cool, or did you criticise it (maybe you weren't old enough to anyway)? Hell, the movie doesn't even say it's wrong at all. Not that it has to, but it doesn't say it's wrong. Pepper indirectly even calls the reporter Tony slept with trash. Is it not both of them that did the sleeping together, not just her?

I don't think Cole is insulting the character. He's saying that these things about Tony would have been called out by people because that is the current social and political climate we live in. It's in these times men are called out for sexual misconduct, whether valid or not, whether true or not. It happens, and part of the reason it happens is because of the president of the US and the Hollywood elite for being exposed as the perverts and enablers that they are.

I said it somewhere below: Where was this movement 10 years ago when Iron Man came out, or even much longer before that? Did sexual misconduct in jobs in America, in Hollywood, and in government start in 2017? That's the point he's making. The movement is of a result of circumstance, not because it should have been happening.
Scarilian
Scarilian - 3/12/2018, 1:21 PM
@BlindWedjat -
I feel like you may be projecting modern day politics onto Iron Man without remembering Iron Man correctly.

"Hell, the movie doesn't even say it's wrong at all."

That is because it is not wrong to be flirtatious - no advancements he made were rejected and that was not because of a position of power, but because the women wanted to have him due to his fame, charm and wealth. Every relationship he had was consenting and they understood fully what they were doing. He also did not make the first move with Pepper Potts, she flirted with him so he responded in kind, up until that stage it was a normal employer employee relationship.

The movie does actually demonstrate that his lifestyle is wrong, but it does so in subtle ways. He has a character progression that occurs over the course of the film, taking responsibility for his actions. He goes from flirting with women constantly to treating them with respect. He sleeps with a reporter and then the same reporter later shows him the images of his weapons in Gulmira and he treats her with the upmost respect and seriousness, lesser character portrayals would not have done this.

"Pepper indirectly even calls the reporter Tony slept with trash"

Incorrect.The reporter directly insulted Pepper, so Pepper responded by calling the reporter trash. This was unrelated to the reporter sleeping with Tony. Pepper is shown expressing distaste at Tony sleeping with a reporter.
RealSpiderMan
RealSpiderMan - 3/12/2018, 7:25 AM
When tf was he douchey to women in that movie? [frick] off with this sjw crap!

If the movie comes out today, it will still be one of the best superhero movies ever made.
PsychoticSpaceRaccoon
PsychoticSpaceRaccoon - 3/12/2018, 7:31 AM
@RealSpiderMan - He essentially uses the reporter for sex and then ghosts her and kicks her out. He did the same thing to Rebecca Hall's character in Iron Man 3.

Also, it's very unclear what his boundaries are with his employees, given the airplane scene with the drunk, pole-dancing flight attendants.

Is he a rapist scumbag? No. But does he treat women with respect before his time in the cave? No.
SpideyPuffsMJ
SpideyPuffsMJ - 3/12/2018, 7:26 AM
This is a pretty hot take. The movie started Tony's journey from douchey billionaire stereotype to a more understanding empathetic character. This summary of the character and the first movie kinda glosses over his development with Yensin and his whole decision to be something greater than himself and help people. Having said that, I thought the political/moral messages in Black Panther were subtly done and were placed perfectly within the story without beating you over the head with them. Not everyone views the universe around them through a lens of Donald Trump being President.
Krav
Krav - 3/12/2018, 7:35 AM
all the things that happend in hollywood with women and abuse came out a couple months after wonder woman i'am not saying it was the cause be certenly helped so i agree with what he said , its time for change.
knocturnalzen10
knocturnalzen10 - 3/12/2018, 7:38 AM
it would've still worked because of RDJ charisma unfortunately because even tho he's my favorite marvel character tony's a full a**hole...... rdj maybe him much more likable
HannibalLecter
HannibalLecter - 3/12/2018, 7:54 AM
@knocturnalzen10 - Agreed, he is more douchey and less funny in the comics.
knocturnalzen10
knocturnalzen10 - 3/12/2018, 7:56 AM
@HannibalLecter - exactly , rdj has a effect on tony's character he's written differently ..... he was actually the sensible one in cw2
1 2 3
View Recorder