Joe Carnahan Reflects On Planned DAREDEVIL Trilogy And How NEMESIS "F*cks With The Genre"

Joe Carnahan Reflects On Planned DAREDEVIL Trilogy And How NEMESIS "F*cks With The Genre"

Before the rights to Daredevil reverted back to Marvel Studios, The Grey director Joe Carnahan was attached to direct a reboot for Twentieth Century Fox. Here, he discusses both that, and his take on Mark Millar and Steve McNiven's Nemesis. Is it still happening? Read on for details!

By JoshWilding - May 06, 2014 03:05 PM EST
Filed Under: Nemesis
Source: MoviePilot (via Comic Book Therapy)
After refusing to trade Fantastic Four characters Silver Surfer and Galactus to Marvel for Daredevil, Twentieth Century Fox had to let the rights revert for the Man Without Fear back in 2012. Just before that happened, Joe Carnahan was attached to direct a reboot of the franchise, and as we already known from the sizzle reel which found its way online shortly after, his take on the iconic Marvel character would have been very unique and clearly Frank Miller inspired. As it turns out, the filmmaker had plans for Daredevil across three movies in three different time periods.

"What people don’t realize about the DD project is that the producers of the film, got to me very late. They had a script that I read and I thought that while the action was wonderful, the story didn’t really have any additional bite. There was nothing I suggested a trilogy as follows. ‘Daredevil ‘73’ ‘Daredevil ‘79’ and ‘Daredevil ‘85’ where I was going to do a kind of ‘cultural libretto’ and make the music of those eras a kind of thematic arc . So the first one would be Classic Rock, the second one would be Punk Rock and the third film would be ‘New Wave.’ The problem was, the option was almost set to lapse so we made an eleventh hour bid to Marvel to retain the rights for a bit longer so I could rework the script. Unfortunately, it just didn’t happen. Marvel wanted the rights back. I don’t blame them."


Daredevil has of course now found a home at Netflix with The Cabin in the Woods and Sinister Six writer and director attached. As for another comic book movie which may be in Carnahan's future, he provided an update on Nemesis which doesn't exactly clear up whether or not we'll see the violent Mark Millar and Steve McNiven series brought to the big screen.

"I think the biggest challenge with Nemesis is that it’s just a motherf***er of screenplay in that it pushes a lot of buttons and does things that both expand and violate the traditional mores of the ‘comic book adaptation’ and that’s a scary conceit when The Dark Knight is considered the socio-political lynchpin of that particular universe. I think Nemesis f**ks with the genre in such a thumb-in-the-eye fashion that it might simply be something for another time and place. It’s incredibly topical and remains infuriatingly so. I chalk it up to another really wonderful script that my brother and I wrote that simply may be too smart-assed for its own good. My brother and I took our real inspiration from Nemesis in the fact that only one character, the bad guy, wore a costume. From their it deviates from the source material in a number of ways but what remains alive and well is Millar’s simmering disdain for the status quo and the relentless violence that characterizes the graphic novel."


So, while the screenplay is indeed completed, it doesn't sound as if we're going to see it anytime soon. The comic book series was incredibly popular, and with Carnahan seemingly conforming that the villain does wear the suit in his take, it's extremely frustrating to think Nemesis hasn't been given the green light based on these comments! What do you guys think?
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Pasto
Pasto - 5/6/2014, 3:40 PM

SpiderFraud
SpiderFraud - 5/6/2014, 3:43 PM
I really wish we could have gotten to see this vision of DD on the big screen. Everything Carnahan has said, sounds great.
JamesMan
JamesMan - 5/6/2014, 3:44 PM
I would have preferred Carnahan got to do his trilogy. He really proved how much of a fantastic director he is and I would much rather have seen his spin on Daredevil than a Netflix series. Oh well. Here's hoping that Netflix series is awesome.
ezio619
ezio619 - 5/6/2014, 3:49 PM
a 70s daredevil movie, that would have been awesome,i hope they carnahan to direct one of the netflix episode,i like his style,he has directed and written episodes of the Blacklist and they were great imo
MrBlackJack
MrBlackJack - 5/6/2014, 3:53 PM
Damn, that sounded pretty badass!
JamesMan
JamesMan - 5/6/2014, 3:53 PM
Seriously, Carnahan is such a great director I hope he gets selected to do another comic book movie.
thebearjew
thebearjew - 5/6/2014, 3:53 PM
well one things for sure the dd netflix series will atleast feature dare devil

not like that fox gotham garbage prequel series to the movies or wait to ....nothing?!
yep nothing [frick]ing retread rehashed bullsh*t franchise milking
thebearjew
thebearjew - 5/6/2014, 3:53 PM
marvel studios whould speak with carnahan
McGee
McGee - 5/6/2014, 3:53 PM
IM53
IM53 - 5/6/2014, 3:56 PM
I was good either way but I love me some Surfer.
McGee
McGee - 5/6/2014, 3:59 PM
@Pasto

JamesMan
JamesMan - 5/6/2014, 4:00 PM
@DrDoom

Probably because they didn't want to do films, hence the Netflix series. It's a shame to me because I would prefer a trilogy of films.
MrBlackJack
MrBlackJack - 5/6/2014, 4:01 PM
@JamesMan Preach! I loved The Grey!
ezio619
ezio619 - 5/6/2014, 4:06 PM
i think daredevil makes sense as a tv show,i think comics can work as television due to the serialized and continous nature of both
NightForce
NightForce - 5/6/2014, 4:07 PM
You guys that prefer Daredevil in a movie to a show?
6 hours vs 13 HOURS OF STORIES. Don't see how a trilogy (over the span of at least 7 years) is preferable to a show. Plus Netflix shows are top notch Daredevil is in good hands.
Abary
Abary - 5/6/2014, 4:08 PM
This should have been made. It's not that FOX wrecked F4 and X-Men, it's that they hired idiots to do them. This could have been AMAZING.
jmartinez986
jmartinez986 - 5/6/2014, 4:09 PM
if carnahan wouldve gotten the chance to do the trilogy and set it it in the years span he wanted, fox couldve used that to have daredevil make a small cameo on first class or vice-versa and that would help hint at a shared cinematic universe..
MrBlackJack
MrBlackJack - 5/6/2014, 4:10 PM
A DD trilogy set in the '70's-'80's in the MCU would have been great.
JamesMan
JamesMan - 5/6/2014, 4:15 PM
I would take 6 hours of the highest quality of filmmaking, and overarching well written 2 hour story, with a sizable $100+ million budgets to make the film actually look respectable, with a large audience, than 13 hours of mediocre filmmaking (that only looks better with a grey filter), with fragmented stories, and MAYBE a $5 million budget, that MIGHT reach 2 million viewers.

That's usually why I prefer films over tv (especially when it comes to CBM's). I'm not saying there aren't fantastic tv shows but I think film is a much better and way more lucrative business than tv.
NightForce
NightForce - 5/6/2014, 4:15 PM
And to me Daredevil in the 70s sounds cool on paper but I'm glad the shows gonna be modern day.

@DrDoom
Maybe Carnahan might direct a few episodes of the show. Idk.
CombatWombat
CombatWombat - 5/6/2014, 4:29 PM
and now it looks like Marvel might do that exact idea. good on Carnahan for his vision. really
NoPhucksGiven
NoPhucksGiven - 5/6/2014, 4:39 PM
Ive never read a daredevil comic before. might have to give him a look.
Nick56
Nick56 - 5/6/2014, 4:41 PM
I have no interest in Disney's Daredevil, Carnahan's vision sounds great
m0th3r
m0th3r - 5/6/2014, 4:52 PM
lets have the same fate for FF....

Although his take is great, have DD in a larger universe and part of a "marvel knights" style thing they are doing is better..Remember he did Smoking Aces and A-Team...i enjoyed both but i hear a lot of people who really hated both films. He does a good bit of TV too...
seamuskeaneart
seamuskeaneart - 5/6/2014, 5:02 PM
70's Daredevil!
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OdinsMissingEye
OdinsMissingEye - 5/6/2014, 5:08 PM
I would love to see Marvel studios version of Daredevil, I think this movie would be great if they use it to incorporate the Punisher into it as all stand alone Punisher movies just seem to be the regular generic action shoot em up kind of thing. If Punisher is going to stand out on the screen he needs to be along side a costumed heroes with superpowers/mutant abilities and Daredevil is the perfect hero to have him team up with.

So my line up for a Daredevil movie would be Daredevil, Punisher, Electra and Kingpin as the main antagonist, in my opinion these are the perfect players for this kind of movie.
GhostDog
GhostDog - 5/6/2014, 5:17 PM
Carnahan is one of the most underrated directors in Hollywood. Nemesis should be good. The comic is actually a little ridiculous, like most of Millar's works, but Carnajan should be able to make it relevant, grounded, and cinematically cool
GhostDog
GhostDog - 5/6/2014, 5:17 PM
His Daredevil would've been a real treat.
LeonNova
LeonNova - 5/6/2014, 5:28 PM
While I wouldn't have minded seeing Carahan's Daredevil trilogy at all, I definitely would have loved to see Surfer & Galactus in the MCU so much more. An Avengers movie with Galactus as the main villain would have been the most epic CBM of all time, but I didn't expect fox to let Marvel have those two, it would have been pretty stupid of them. It really sucks that Marvel can't just own Spider-Man, X-Men, Fantastic Four, in addition to the characters they do have. The MCU would be completely un[frick]witable.
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