Gopher Guts: Great Green Globs of Reality in my Fantasy

Gopher Guts: Great Green Globs of Reality in my Fantasy

My thoughts on the current trend in comic book movies.

Editorial Opinion
By bgharcourt - Nov 18, 2011 12:11 AM EST
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I was born in the early 80's(I'm 29). Like most of you, I have been a comic fan almost all my life. The first comic I ever received was an Uncanny Xmen comic my brother bought for my 6th birthday(I still have it,btw). Since then, I have been in love with comics. From Superman, The Xmen, Batman, heck even The Ferret, I have read them and allowed myself to be immersed into their universes.

But even before that,came my discovery of the Comic Book Movie.

The first exposure to cbms was the Reeves Superman movies when I was about 4. I remember watching them with my brother on VHS and then fighting over who was going to be the man of steel when they grew up. Then later seeing Burton's Batman, also with my brother(then fighting over who got to be Batman when they grew up).

There have been many cbms over the years. And as time changes, so do the way these stories are told. From Donner to Singer, Burton to Nolan, comic book movies have become their own art form. Each new writer and director trying to bring golden age heroes to the modern world. Some fail and some succeed. But for the most part I enjoy the ever living hell out of them.

But now, there is a growing trend in these movies that I find disconcerting. The necessity of injecting the real world into my fantasy world. The best example of this is the Nolan Batman films. Now before all the Nolanites find me for an old fashion Tar and Feathering, I really do like his interpretation of Batman. The only downside to it is we would have never seen the more interesting and colorful villains like Killer Croc, Mr.Freeze, Clayface, and Poison Ivy just to name a few. For me, the biggest draw to Bats is that he is a human, fighting against meta humans. True he has the tec to take them down, but at the end of the day he is just a man(oh who am I kidding, he's Batman).

With the critical success of Batman Begins, other movie-makers have followed suit in grounding their films. Ironman director Jon Favreau said(after claiming he read the comics)that we would never see The Mandarin in his IM films because his is a tec based world and the Mandarin's rings are magic(no Jon,they are not). I just hope Shane Black has a different opinion on the matter. Another robotic suited villain I believe, would kill the franchise. Even in Thor, a story about gods and higher dimensions, they had to throw in that line "In my world science and magic are one in the same"(sorry if I miss quoted that). The claim that their magic is just advanced technology.

This is not entirely their fault(directors and studios). I believe we, the general audience have demanded a little too much of these movies. We rant and rave if we deem a movie to campy, or fake looking. We hold these films to such a high standard, I believe, because for most of our lives we have invested so much time and money, and love in the characters.

So, what I'm trying to say here is that maybe we should lighten up a bit. That we don't need to knock a superhero down a peg to have a good story. How many of you out there have been bitten by a radioactive spider. Or been exposed to gamma rays, are from another planet, are a billionaire genius playboy philanthropist, etc. These are our fantasies. We live in real world and I see no reason for the two should have to meet.

Maybe we all can, even for a short time, believe a man can fly.


---Bishop "Gopher" Harcourt---

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MaddMonkk
MaddMonkk - 11/18/2011, 1:50 AM
i like what you're preaching, but I think we have seen the over the top far out stuff before and even though some was tastefully done it was too much for some people. When a man lifts a car over his head, most people say that phrase I hate. "Oh, yeah right, he can't lift a car."
People have a problem with the suspension of belief, I don't but some do and they compare those movies with the cheese that comes along with some of the others.
It's sad good movies get categorized that way. I personally have a unique ability to get my mind around what I'm seeing. If i know it's a crazy action movie then that's what I expect. The Color Purple was the worst CBM ever. because it wasn't a CBM. You can't compare that with Masters of the Universe but some do.
Good Article.
SeaSerpentine
SeaSerpentine - 11/18/2011, 5:15 AM
Great article.
Gerrit
Gerrit - 11/18/2011, 8:43 AM
I like realism and i think movies should be made to look as realistically AS POSSIBLE. In movies like Thor it's nice too mix science and magic just a little bit, i loved how they mixed the beauty of space and the magical aspect of what happens in the movie. In the end all i see in the movie is magic, it's just two or three lines that say it's science and i don't think it is such a big deal.
TheWingedWonder
TheWingedWonder - 11/18/2011, 10:55 AM
I see what you are saying and I pretty much agree with you. I mean, come on people, it's FANTASY. If you want realism, then you shouldn't be watching a fantasy movie.
Supes17
Supes17 - 11/18/2011, 2:27 PM
Yeah Green Lantern tried it....
headlopper
headlopper - 11/18/2011, 3:24 PM
It depends on the hero.
Batman has no powers ,so it stands to reason he should be portrayed realistically.

Dr. Strange however would need a little fantasy injection to work.

So the hero should determine the tone of the film.
golden123
golden123 - 11/18/2011, 8:32 PM
@Supes17: but Green Lantern had bad writing. I don't see your point.
golden123
golden123 - 11/18/2011, 9:06 PM
By the way, you can do Killer Croc, Poison Ivy, and Mr Freeze in Nolan's world. Before Bane was announced, alot of people put Bane on the list of villains that they said nolan would never use due to him being to fanntastical (venom). Anyyways this is how you can do these villains...
Killer Croc-make it closer to the skin disorder version of him. He has a disease that makes his skin durable, greenish, and scaly at the cost of looking like a freak which drives him insane. He resorts to a cannibalistic killing spree to better identify with his "freak self". Nolan did the burned up Two-Face. I don't see why he can't do the diseased Killer Croc.

Poison Ivy-a super environmentalist or eco-terroist (green party?). She tries to kill off most of the human race (or at least Gotham City) to save the earth. throw out the whole controlling plants thing. She accomplishes this through poisons and genetically engineered plants. Reference the Batman: the Animated Series version of Poison Ivy. Nolan did the eco-terrorist, Ra's al Ghul, who was bent on wiping out humanity. Nolan and Goyer removed the supernatural aspect of the character (immortality). Why couldn't they have done the same with Poison Ivy?

Mr Freeze-The "freeze gun" is no more far ftched than the "fear gas". His body temperature condition isn't that big of a stretch to adapt to film. Maybey if his temperature is way too high and the suit brings it down to normal body temperature Mr Freeze might go over better. His whole motivation of a guy who lost his love, and now whats to bring the world down to feel his depression is perfectly believable.

Clayface-I'm just going to throw in that the character of Clayface was originally a serial killer. So Nolan could've done that version. I never found Clayface that interesting, anyways.

None of this really matters anymore since Nolan's last Batman film is coming out next Summer.
Supes17
Supes17 - 11/18/2011, 11:00 PM
Ra's could still be immortal in the Nolan series.
I dont think Josh Pence will portray the flashback version. I just think he'll be the younger version emerged from the pit
Thats the conclusion I came to after reading Liam Neeson's article.
bgharcourt
bgharcourt - 12/7/2011, 10:50 PM
@golden123: The army research and development group,DARPA has had and used a neuro-toxin that has similar properties to Scarecrow's fear gas since the late 60's. The use of it now a days is considered a war crime.

As for Mr. Freeze, his freeze ray is decades ahead of current tec levels. We just learned how to use lasers for military purposes, and that is just burning. The power needed to use them is ridicules. The ones used by the navy need their own nuclear reactor to power them. I guess if he was trying to freeze a blob of goo or a gas, he could use the atom trapping method, but it doesn't work on slow moving atomic systems like those of solid objects.
comiccow6
comiccow6 - 12/17/2011, 1:14 PM
Ya know. We could learn a lot from comics. Just think of what Spider-man does. He has mechanical web shooters, and he has been around for 60 years. How come we have not tried to develop this tech?
bgharcourt
bgharcourt - 12/20/2011, 11:47 PM
@comiccow6: Already done. A non lethal weapons company developed them in the 80's for law enforcement agencies. It is a small pressurized canister of a foam that is so sticky, it can mobilize a person in seconds. The best part is that Johnson&Johnson's baby oil is the only thing that can remove the foam. Something having to do with the specific chemical composition of the oil. I mean come on, how many crooks would be carrying J&J baby oil with them at all times?
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