STAR WARS: New Book Finally Explains Emperor Palpatine's Clones And Supreme Leader Snoke's Creation

STAR WARS: New Book Finally Explains Emperor Palpatine's Clones And Supreme Leader Snoke's Creation

Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker failed to properly explain Emperor Palpatine's return from the dead, while Supreme Leader Snoke's creation has also left fans confused. A new tie-in book explains all...

By JoshWilding - Oct 20, 2021 07:10 AM EST
Filed Under: Star Wars

Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker proved itself the most divisive of all the sequels, not least because it brought Emperor Palpatine back from the dead. What should have been an epic, exciting reveal disappointed many due to how rushed his return was and the fact it had never really been teased in The Force Awakens or The Last Jedi

The biggest issue, however, was the lack of any sort of explanation. Palpatine was just back, and fans of the Star Wars franchise were left to fill in the gaps themselves. 

Well, things are cleared up a little in new book, Star Wars: The Secrets of the Sith. Shared by @JacobsQuest on Twitter, this tie-in recounts events from Palpatine's perspective as he explains that his "consciousness [was] transferred into a new body on Exegol." However, "even after years of experimentation, the cloning techniques employed by my acolytes were inadequate. They could not create a vessel capable of containing my unfathomable power."

Unable to leave Exegol due to the poor state of his new body, Palpatine reveals that, "As part of their genetic experiments, my followers had attempted to create another being that came to be known as Snoke. Although his body proved unworthy of containing my dark essence, Snoke's natural sensitivity to the Force would make him a powerful puppet nonetheless."

With that, "Snoke" created the First Order and this does explain that brief mention of cloning in The Force Awakens (and why the villain targeted the children of Rebel heroes to be his Stormtroopers). Something tells us The Mandalorian's Moff Gideon was somehow involved with those early cloning attempts to bring his Emperor back to life. 

Finally, the book confirms that "Strand-Casting" was used to create "countless modified clone bodies" from Palpatine's genetic material. The only one that survived was his "son" (Rey's father), but his lack of connection to the Force meant he was useless to the powerful Sith Lord. 

Why this is all explained in a book the vast majority of fans will probably never read is hard to say, but there are a lot of ideas here that could be used in future Star Wars movies and TV shows. 

Do you feel a little more satisfied after reading these new details? 

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ManofSteel23
ManofSteel23 - 10/20/2021, 7:06 AM
No amount of explanation in a book will make rise better 1-6 are Star Wars for me and that’s it along with the Disney + shows
kylo0607
kylo0607 - 10/20/2021, 8:01 AM
@ManofSteel23 - Yep, The Rise of Skywalker really dropped the ball on everything.
Inktown03
Inktown03 - 10/20/2021, 7:07 AM
Oh piss off.
NoAssemblyReqd
NoAssemblyReqd - 10/20/2021, 7:09 AM
Ugh, Kylo Ren entering Palps domain at the beginning of ROTS has got to be one of the clumsiest retcon reveals in cinema history.
Reeds2Much
Reeds2Much - 10/20/2021, 11:01 AM
@NoAssemblyReqd - Clumsier than Luke and Leia being related? There existing a race of teddy bears that can easily route a global empire with almost no preparation time? Vader's story? Surely Greedo shooting first has to be a far more clumsy retcon.
Asterisk
Asterisk - 10/20/2021, 11:11 AM
@Reeds2Much - yes…yes it is clumsier than a lot of those lol but no one is saying Star Wars is perfect they’ve basically been [frick]ing it up since 1983
NoAssemblyReqd
NoAssemblyReqd - 10/20/2021, 4:02 PM
@Reeds2Much - Lol, I was actually going to mention all of those! Indeed, even as a 6yo watching ROTJ, I thought the Luke and Leia sibling thing seemed lazy.

But the Snoke was a clone, Palps is alive (and Rey’s grandfather) triple whammy beats all of those.
ElricReturns
ElricReturns - 10/20/2021, 7:11 AM
They will eventually cover this in a Disney+ show. They've already been planting seeds.
Spidey91
Spidey91 - 10/20/2021, 7:11 AM
I guess the Emperor wished he'd stuck with the very profitable and useful cloning technology used for his clone army.
also, to me if it didn't happen in the movies then it doesn't count.
ShimmyShimmyYA
ShimmyShimmyYA - 10/20/2021, 7:14 AM
Well Star Wars has always explained a lot of shit in a book most don’t read but tbh idc
bkmeijer2
bkmeijer2 - 10/20/2021, 7:19 AM
I hate they have to explain it in a book, but that aside I do like this explanation. Kinda what I expected it would be. Now they just have to make sense of the Final Order (why did Palps needed it if he was already in control of the First Order through Snoke?)
TheManWithoutFear
TheManWithoutFear - 10/20/2021, 7:24 AM
Damn i hope i never see a bigger waste of potential in my life than the sequel trilogy. They blew it so hard.
Fogs
Fogs - 10/20/2021, 9:52 AM
@TheManWithoutFear - agreed.
DarthNihilus
DarthNihilus - 10/20/2021, 7:42 AM
Another book to ruin a bit more Star Wars and poop on the lore..


Pass




DudeGuy
DudeGuy - 10/20/2021, 7:48 AM
Mandalorian is cool and all, but besides that Disney has done a great job of making my interest in SW borderline nonexistent. Didn’t think that was possible
bkmeijer2
bkmeijer2 - 10/20/2021, 7:57 AM
@OldMan - yeah its weird. I like The Mandalorian, the Clone Wars revival, The Bad Batch and quite some of the books, yet they manage to mess up on the big screen
bkmeijer2
bkmeijer2 - 10/20/2021, 7:58 AM
@Repian - my initial line of thinking was also that it would've been cool if Snoke served the Emperor during the time of the Empire, only to continue it's ideology after returning and finding out the Emperor died (of who he also managed to figure out was a sith lord)
AwesomePromoz
AwesomePromoz - 10/20/2021, 8:05 AM
That was a very digestible summary. Thanks @joshwilding
TheMandalorian
TheMandalorian - 10/20/2021, 8:06 AM
If you have trouble telling your story in a movie, NO ONE is going to find it helpful that the explanation is in a tie in book YEARS LATER! You already failed, just deal with it.
Feralwookiee
Feralwookiee - 10/20/2021, 8:09 AM
Much like my marriage, I choose to believe these Disney SW movies never even happened.
Repian
Repian - 10/20/2021, 8:13 AM
It would have been great to see Andy Serkis as a "Ren".

During the Emperor's defeat, an Inquisitor fulfills a mission on a planet in the outer rim. He conquers the barbarian peoples in the name of the Emperor. Thus, he discovers an ancient religion. The cult of Ren.

When he returns, he spreads Ren's teachings throughout the galaxy.
ARMUS
ARMUS - 10/20/2021, 8:14 AM
Attempting to retcon or explain a films gobbledygook in a book ages after the films release is such a desperate move, if it's not in the film it doesn't matter, very few who've seen the film will read the book anyway. " you don't get it! The film is a masterpiece! You were supposed to watch the film then spend a weekend a year later reading the book, you're not a real fan". I always assumed the Emperor made a big poop and that poop then transformed into a replica, it's an explanation I'm happy with.
TheMapleSyrup
TheMapleSyrup - 10/20/2021, 8:18 AM
He should have just been an apprentice to Palpatine. It would be less stupid. I have no issue with clone Palpatine. Star wars has been telling that years. But a cloned apprentice is weird.
GwenLantern
GwenLantern - 10/20/2021, 8:21 AM
This doesn't explain why the Emperor wanted to possess Rey. If he could just possess a normal person, why not take Darth Vader when he was still alive.

If it had to be a strandcast modified clone, why would a mere genetic heir do?

Are we sure she wasn't a clone? Or the daughter of two clones? Was her mother a clone too? What's the deal?
bkmeijer2
bkmeijer2 - 10/20/2021, 10:25 AM
@GwenLantern - I think since Rey's father is the only clone to survive and his daughter being quite powerful with the force (thanks to that connection with Kylo or something) he probably thought: might as well possess Rey.

But it's a mess. Why didn't he just possess Kylo in the first place instead of this weird-ass ''be the apprentice to my failed Snoke clone'' or ''I'll offer you an empire or something'' plans
mrHJK
mrHJK - 10/20/2021, 8:36 AM
I enjoyed The Force Awakens and The Last Jedi in their own way but The Rise of Skywalker really dropped the ball for me. That said, this wasn't one of the elements that contributed to that. A jar of Snokes, Palpatine's back but only barely, cool got it - that's visual storytelling. The failure of the Snoke character was there from the jump when JJ throws him in as new Emperor in VII with no clue who the guy is or even what he actually looks like.
GhostDog
GhostDog - 10/20/2021, 8:39 AM
Dumb
TheRidd1er
TheRidd1er - 10/20/2021, 8:51 AM
What an absolute shitshow. How they went into this trilogy without a clear storyline is unfathomable. The sequel trilogy only gets worse with time, retconning it is the only way forward.

But we'll still never get to see Luke, Leia and Han together on screen again. Unforgivable.
Super12
Super12 - 10/20/2021, 10:13 AM
@TheRidd1er - Yep. And that's the greatest tragedy to come out of all of this. We only had one shot to make a sequel trilogy and tell the next chapter of Han, Luke, & Leia's stories. And they completely butchered it. You described it best, unforgivable.
AmazingFILMporg
AmazingFILMporg - 10/20/2021, 9:09 AM
Trash😾
MrDandy
MrDandy - 10/20/2021, 9:26 AM
Nope. Still dumb and undercuts the entire (superior) original trilogy.
Reeds2Much
Reeds2Much - 10/20/2021, 9:55 AM
The1st
The1st - 10/20/2021, 10:30 AM
@Reeds2Much - Oh that? That's easy.



sKeemAn
sKeemAn - 10/20/2021, 10:15 AM
This is ridiculous. You cant make up for these kinds of plot holes in movies like this.


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