Does Andy Serkis Deserve An Oscar Nom For DAWN OF THE PLANET OF THE APES?

Does Andy Serkis Deserve An Oscar Nom For DAWN OF THE PLANET OF THE APES?

According to The Hollywood Reporter, 20th Century Fox will pursue an Oscar nomination for Andy Serkis based on his portrayal of 'Caesar' in Matt Reeves' Dawn of the Planet of the Apes. Does he deserve it? Hit the jump to voice your opinion.

By nailbiter111 - Nov 07, 2014 03:11 PM EST
Filed Under: Sci-Fi
Source: hollywoodreporter

 
Last night, Dawn of the Planet of the Apes won the Hollywood Post Alliance Award for Outstanding Visual Effects - Feature Film. A wonderful achievement indeed. It beat out Alfonso Cuaron’s Gravity, which was considered the favorite in the category. You would think 20th Century Fox would be content with winning visual effects awards for Dawn of the Planet of the Apes; however, The Hollywood Reporter claims Fox will make a serious push to get motion-capture actor Andy Serkis ("Avengers: Age of Ultron") an Oscar nomination in the Best Supporting Actor category.

There had been some speculation that Fox would campaign for Serkis in the lead actor category, despite it being as jam-packed as any this year, if only because Serkis' part in Rise is top-billed and as prominent as any actor's in the film. But instead the studio has formally resolved to promote its entire cast — including Toby Kebbell (Koba), Jason Clarke (Malcolm), Keri Russell (Ellie) and Gary Oldman (Dreyfus) — in the supporting categories, an approach that was previously employed on other ensemble-driven films such as Crash (2005), Syriana (2005) and Babel (2006), all of which landed acting noms. - THR

The studio previously attempted the same approach for Andy Serkis in 2011 with Rise of the Planet of the Apes. The effort wasn't completely futile as Andy Serkis did receive a Critics' Choice nomination in the Best Supporting Actor category for his portrayal of 'Caesar.'

Does Andy Serkis really deserve an Oscar nomination? Many of you will quickly say "Yes!;" however, you may be shocked to learn many VFX artists are not in his corner. Over the years, Andy Serkis has angered them by minimizing their role in Andy's motion-captured performances. They were especially upset when Andy told Io9, "It’s a given that they (VFX artist) absolutely copy [the performance] to the letter, to the point in effect what they are doing is painting digital makeup onto actors’ performances.”

In May, The Lord of the Rings animation supervisor, Randall William Cook (three-time Oscar winner),  decided he could no longer put up with Serkis downplaying the role of animators in the motion-capture process. "But let me swear to you here that Gollum was not solely an Andy Serkis performance, with Andy’s every move, gesture and tic scrupulously reproduced in a new, digital character," Cook explained to Cartoon Brew.  "Rather, Gollum was a synthesis, a collaborative performance delivered by both Andy and a team of highly-skilled animation artists."

Cook provided a laundry list of examples from The Lord of the Rings trilogy. Below, are the examples regarding Andy's performance in 2012's The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers.
TWO TOWERS saw much more involvement from Andy. Several examples from that film. Gollum, after he has been tamed and led along on a rope, is released and scampers up onto a rock, showing the hobbits where they must go. This was filmed with Andy squatting on a rock. Sam and Frodo come up to him, Sam and Gollum have a staring contest, and Sam backs down. It bothered me that Sam was turning his back on Gollum, which seemed out of character, so back in Wellington I directed animator Atsushi Sato to have Gollum break his look, and precede Sam out of the shot. This isn’t Digital Makeup, this isn’t a “technical” chore, this is an acting choice. And it wasn’t Andy’s idea, but mine. And it was Atsushi Sato who “played” that moment, not Andy. It was a decision within my purview as Animation Director and Peter signed off on it.

Gollum hears the name Smeagol for the first time in 500 years. We used Andy’s body mocap, but I didn’t care for what I thought was Andy’s too-busy facial performance, so I told Adam Valdez to ignore it and animate something subtler. He animated two shots and Linda Johnson animated the third, and they created a memorable acting moment which did not “honor” Andy’s performance in the slightest. There were many times where we honored Andy’s performance to the letter, but this wasn’t one of ’em.

That film ends with a long mo-cap take of Gollum soliloquizing. Jason Schleifer, Adam Valdez and Mike Stevens had much to do with the acting of this scene, as the animation task was split among them. We also changed the choreography on that one, having Gollum advance emphatically toward the camera, having him wrap his hands around a branch and twist, as he throttles a hobbit in his imagination. Again, acting choices courtesy of the Weta Animation Department. - Randall Cook

Click here for more examples.

A growing nation of genetically evolved apes led by Caesar is threatened by a band of human survivors of the devastating virus unleashed a decade earlier. They reach a fragile peace, but it proves short-lived, as both sides are brought to the brink of a war that will determine who will emerge as Earth’s dominant species.

Dawn of the Planet of the Apes is being directed by Matt Reeves (Cloverfield, Let Me In), from a screenplay written by Mark Bomback, Scott Z. Burns, Rick Jaffa and Amanda Silver. The cast includes: Andy Serkis (The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey), Jason Clarke (Zero Dark Thirty, Public Enemies, The Great Gatsby), Gary Oldman (The Dark Knight Rises, The Harry Potter film series), Keri Russell (The Americans, Mission Impossible III), Toby Kebbell (The Prince of Persia, Wrath of the Titans, Rock N Rolla), Kodi Smit-McPhee (Let Me In, ParaNorman), Enrique Murciano (Traffic, Black Hawk Down), Kirk Acevedo (The Thin Red Line) and Judy Greer (The Descendants, Three Kings, 13 Going on 30). The film climbs into theaters July 11, 2014
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NightBoyWonder
NightBoyWonder - 11/7/2014, 3:06 PM
Yes. Yes he does.
THEDARKKNIGHT1939
THEDARKKNIGHT1939 - 11/7/2014, 3:06 PM
He does deserve recognition but [frick] the Oscars.
SauronsBANE
SauronsBANE - 11/7/2014, 3:10 PM
Clearly he (and Toby Kebbell) deserves an Oscar for that movie, but it's also clear that the countless folks behind the scenes also deserve praise and credit as well. I'm pretty sure Serkis has backed off those previous statements a bit, though that doesn't excuse how much of a dick he was to say that in the first place.
MyNameIsKhan
MyNameIsKhan - 11/7/2014, 3:10 PM
@FrozenLover let it go my friend. Let it go
kingradon
kingradon - 11/7/2014, 3:11 PM
If he does, then so does the animation team that expanded on his mo-cap model. Those animators influence the performance of the character as much as (if not more than) the actor.
DEVWoulf
DEVWoulf - 11/7/2014, 3:11 PM
No...no. Nice try though.
MarkyMarkRises
MarkyMarkRises - 11/7/2014, 3:13 PM
Oscars are shit. I [frick]ing love Mr. Serkis, and that's all that matters to me.
JamesMan
JamesMan - 11/7/2014, 3:16 PM
A nomination would be nice but unlikely. Blockbusters rarely get nominated for anything that isn't a technical award. Oscar-bait films are usually the winners in every other category.
mbembet
mbembet - 11/7/2014, 3:17 PM
Kubrick never won oscar so yeah fack oscar
FordEl
FordEl - 11/7/2014, 3:18 PM
Yes. Andy Serkis is an amzing actor however the CG team shouldnt be left uncredited with that.

They could just do a special thing just for that where they give the award to Andy Serkis and the VFX team. Its a collaborative effort that both sides need some recogbition for
FordEl
FordEl - 11/7/2014, 3:19 PM
Thats the best chance Serkis has in the crowded Acting categories this year
sKeemAn
sKeemAn - 11/7/2014, 3:21 PM
So the animators are against him getting the nod because he's getting the recognition and not them. Haters gone hate!
Shaanyboi
Shaanyboi - 11/7/2014, 3:21 PM
His grossly dismissive attitude towards the animators inclines me to say no. Mo-cap isn't a 1:1 process. It isn't digital make-up. There are countless alterations, passes, and decisions made by the animators that mocap actors DON'T make, or that are made long after that performance is recorded.

If he gets an Oscar, then so does the team behind-the-scenes that made that performance work on-screen.
Greengo
Greengo - 11/7/2014, 3:23 PM
This is a new horizon in acting and Serkis is a pioneer.

Is going to happen eventually... for it to be anyone but Andy would be a travesty.
Bekss
Bekss - 11/7/2014, 3:24 PM
The only way he can receive an award for a motion capture role is if the animators receive the exact same award as him. 50/50

The problem is that they are not actors and Serkis in not an animator. There's no category for this type of thing. There should be one, but there would only be 2 nominations every year.
sKeemAn
sKeemAn - 11/7/2014, 3:26 PM
You would think they would want him to get the nod so they can start getting more credit and recognition for their works.
imkennypowers
imkennypowers - 11/7/2014, 3:28 PM
Of course the studio behind the movie want him to get a nomination!!

Of course the studio behind the movie believe he deserves it!!

They're playing "the game"


SuperCat
SuperCat - 11/7/2014, 3:31 PM
F*ck yeah, he deserves an Oscar nomination.
sKeemAn
sKeemAn - 11/7/2014, 3:33 PM
@Shaanyboi

By your logic do you think that when an actor or actress gets an ocsar for a leading role that whole movie team needs to receive that oscar as well?
SuperCat
SuperCat - 11/7/2014, 3:34 PM
Deschain99
Deschain99 - 11/7/2014, 3:42 PM
Hell yeah this mother[frick]er was bad ass. Look at least a nomination.
sKeemAn
sKeemAn - 11/7/2014, 3:44 PM
I dont think the team should get an Oscar. When the leading or supporting actor, or actress gets an Oscar it doesn't go to the director, or to the person who thought it was a better idea to do it this way, or that way. No ot goes to the actor who gave the performance. If the team wants an Oscar they need to find a category to put them in.
IAmNotGr00t
IAmNotGr00t - 11/7/2014, 3:44 PM
Yeah he needs one
Meteor
Meteor - 11/7/2014, 3:46 PM
Why not? I think it's even more difficult to play a character like Caesar wich is part animal part human. Maybe in the end an Oscar doesn't matter, but it's cool for the recognition of a performance like that!
TheRationalNerd
TheRationalNerd - 11/7/2014, 3:47 PM
I'd have to say no for this one, great acting yes! But he didn't have as much as weight to his charcter like in the first one. The motion capture was great (completely deserves awards) the third act had all action but I would've preferred him battling against his son than Koba.
McGee
McGee - 11/7/2014, 3:48 PM
They gave an Oscar to Cher....but not to Leonardo DiCaprio....so...
OrgasmicPotatoe
OrgasmicPotatoe - 11/7/2014, 3:48 PM
He should get an award for being [frick]ing Andy Serkis !
McGee
McGee - 11/7/2014, 3:49 PM
....or Citizen Kane.
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