Simon Pegg Was Asked To Make STAR TREK 3 "More Inclusive"

Simon Pegg Was Asked To Make STAR TREK 3 "More Inclusive"

Although successful, it's fair to say J.J. Abrams' Star Trek films never dominated the box office like CBMs have of late. According to the co-writer of the next Trek movie, Paramount has been looking for a shift in tone towards films like Marvel's Avengers flicks. Read on for more!

By Minty - May 20, 2015 05:05 PM EST
Filed Under: Star Trek
Source: Radio Times (via The Guardian)

British actor Simon Pegg (Mission Impossible: Ghost Protocol) recently opened up to the Radio Times about his thoughts on geek culture. While his somewhat controversial rant about the "dumbing down" of modern cinema may have seized headlines, it was his comments about the upcoming Star Trek sequel that made for a far more interesting read.

Earlier this year, Pegg was revealed to be co-writing the 
sequel to JJ Abrams' Star Trek Into Darkness, following Roberto Orci's departure from the project. Rumored to be titled Star Trek Beyond, details about the film's plot have so-far been sketchy at best, but Pegg revealed that the higher-ups at Paramount have been pushing for a "more inclusive" tone this time around:

"They had a script for Star Trek that wasn’t really working for them. I think the studio was worried that it might have been a little bit too Star Trek-y. Avengers Assemble, which is a pretty nerdy, comic-book, supposedly niche thing, made $1.5bn dollars. Star Trek: Into Darkness made half a billion, which is still brilliant, but it means that, according to the studio, there’s still $1bn worth of box office that don’t go and see Star Trek. And they want to know why."


It's interesting to see Pegg bring up The Avengers here. The Marvel flick smashed box office records in 2012, and has been used as a blueprint for success by much of the blockbuster movie industry ever since - with mixed results. A shift in tone for Star Trek 3 could end up being a recipe for success for Paramount - and yet it could quite easily backfire as well. Indeed, many fans' complaints about Into Darkness were focused on the sequel's attempts to emulate the bleak nature of 'dark and gritty' box office hits like Christopher Nolan's Dark Knight trilogy.

What do you think? Should classic franchises like the Star Trek series change and evolve in order to meet popular demand - or would you rather they stayed true to their original tone? As always, leave your thoughts down below!

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0bstreperous
0bstreperous - 5/20/2015, 5:56 PM
I loved the Abrams trek films
ThePresidentGaming
ThePresidentGaming - 5/20/2015, 5:56 PM
So it's going to have a G rating.
ScottMontgomery
ScottMontgomery - 5/20/2015, 5:59 PM
I hate it when my Star Trek films are to Star Trek-y
GhostDog
GhostDog - 5/20/2015, 6:01 PM
That's a shame....
AvengingWolverine
AvengingWolverine - 5/20/2015, 6:05 PM
This is coming out next July right? They better get filming soon if they want to make that release date...
BatmanHeisenberg
BatmanHeisenberg - 5/20/2015, 6:05 PM
Huh. If anything, I'd argue it needs to be less "inclusive", per say. It's so fi that it forgets the sci. I want less spectacle, and more intimate moments that really mirror the tv series. While the various Star Trek tv shows had tons of spectacle, the intimate moments really made and developed the characters and furthered the plots.

While I can understand the prospect of wanting to make millions, the Avengers was FILLED with intimate moments.

Just my two cents.
jerryblake
jerryblake - 5/20/2015, 6:07 PM
the script can't be more lackluster than ST:ID one. I still don't know what happened. As i recall , they went from London to space, they were fighting in one place for like half an hour, Scotty killed the guard, and Spock screamed Kahn !!! for all wrong reasons. The movie felt so ... misplaced ?

The movie killed the first part for me, i wasn't even wanna see third part.
Let's see if Simon can put me back on track with this one.

Oh, and that Nimoy explaining who Kahn is cameo. WTF was that all about ?

Nitpicking: was Quinto got fat for Spock in part 2 ? Because he surely looked weird when he was running to stop Kahn :)
xxxxxxx
xxxxxxx - 5/20/2015, 6:11 PM
"...but it means that, according to the studio, there’s still $1bn worth of box office that don’t go and see Star Trek. And they want to know why."

A very smart way to observe the situation.

" I think the studio was worried that it might have been a little bit too Star Trek-y."

I'm going to assume that by "too Star Trek-y" they mean too many references and unnecessary pandering to fans. I didn't like Into Darkness, but hopefully this turns out fine.
jerryblake
jerryblake - 5/20/2015, 6:13 PM
here's the clip



Minty
Minty - 5/20/2015, 6:13 PM
I still think JJ Abrams' first Star Trek film is one of the best blockbusters of the last 10 years. Wasn't overly fond of Into Darkness, but if the third movie can recapture some of the first's magic I'll be over the moon.

MisterHolmes
MisterHolmes - 5/20/2015, 6:14 PM
i liked the first 2. even though i dont think they hold the...."weight" as I think it should.
jerryblake
jerryblake - 5/20/2015, 6:15 PM
many forgot that Thor is Kirk's Dad
Boosterblue
Boosterblue - 5/20/2015, 6:16 PM
Gene Roddenberry would be spinning in his grave......if he hadn't been cremated!
Dingbat
Dingbat - 5/20/2015, 6:20 PM
I know some fans really hate them, but I think the Abrams Trek movies hold a lot of merit as films on their own. I'm really looking forward to this third one even without him behind the camera.
AvengingWolverine
AvengingWolverine - 5/20/2015, 6:35 PM
I love the first film and I think Into Darkness is still very good. I'm optimistic that Star Trek 3 will be fun and entertaining at least. Having Idris Elba as a villain and getting rid of Roberto Orci after what he did to Spider-Man can only be considered as a good move on Paramount's part.
McGee
McGee - 5/20/2015, 6:38 PM
God damn it! >:(
blackandyellow
blackandyellow - 5/20/2015, 6:38 PM
I wish they'd make a third Sherlock movie. Those were the shit.
McGee
McGee - 5/20/2015, 6:39 PM
Uh...I mean, I don't care. My jimmies aren't rustled...sons of bitches.
TigerClaw
TigerClaw - 5/20/2015, 6:40 PM
Basically Paramount wants the new film, To cater to the average moviegoer, Not the Star Trek fans, This will surely piss off the fanbase, Who wanted something more Star Trek-y.
BlackPhillip
BlackPhillip - 5/20/2015, 6:43 PM
The first Star Trek was awesome! Into Darkness was fine, but it didn't have the charm of the first one.
MisterHolmes
MisterHolmes - 5/20/2015, 6:45 PM
@blackandyellow
Im agreeing with everything you are saying tonight. a 3rd SHERLOCK is needed, i need it NOW!
asherman93
asherman93 - 5/20/2015, 6:45 PM
@DoktorWeezil
Woah, woah, woah! Let's not get crazy!
Steelers4190
Steelers4190 - 5/20/2015, 6:46 PM
The butt hurt when this movie come s out will be soooooo real lol
montyburns
montyburns - 5/20/2015, 6:47 PM
@BatmanHeisenberg --that's because you value the most important part of a good story. Character development. The spectacle is always great, it's eye candy. But actually caring about a character, is the essence of writing. Like Not Sure in Idocracy said " And there was a time in this country, a long time ago, when reading wasn't just for ---- and neither was writing. People wrote books and movies, movies that had stories so you cared whose ass it was and why it was farting, and I believe that time can come again!"
Dredd97
Dredd97 - 5/20/2015, 6:48 PM
@blackandyellow I completely agree. Let's get another SH film going. Also, Steelers for the next Super Bowl! 7th ring here we come!
AbedIsBatman
AbedIsBatman - 5/20/2015, 6:51 PM
They want to know why? Because it's not Star Wars. That's why.
nld3
nld3 - 5/20/2015, 6:54 PM
Too Treky WTF!
montyburns
montyburns - 5/20/2015, 6:55 PM
Who, exactly, is being excluded? Star Trek as a franchise isn't exactly the platform to bring young kids to, since the plots tend to be more involved. It's not exactly the platform to bring a date to, unless they're already a fan. If studio execs are trying to pander to a base that's never supported this franchise, then you would have to make substantial changes to the source materiel. At that point, not sure you can call it Star Trek anymore.
KrazyForKomix
KrazyForKomix - 5/20/2015, 7:08 PM
Half-a-billion?! Not enough?

They were great and don't need to change.
Greengo
Greengo - 5/20/2015, 7:13 PM
They are making another one B&Y
McGee
McGee - 5/20/2015, 7:19 PM
Someone please call Rick Berman. For the love of Nimoy.


No...NO! Keep that idiot away from Star Trek! Him and Brannon Braga.

Get Ron Moore and Ira Steven Behr! Maybe Manny Coto.
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