EDITORIAL: Making A Successful STAR WARS Movie

EDITORIAL: Making A Successful STAR WARS Movie

Despite its continuing popularity the Star Wars franchise took a big hit after the Prequel Trilogy. This editorial aims to look at some ways to make the saga successful again. Hit the jump to find out more!

Editorial Opinion
By MrSundayMovies - Jun 02, 2013 04:06 AM EST
Filed Under: Star Wars
Source: youtube.com/mrsundaytosunday



Watch the embedded video below for a comprehensive look at making a not terrible Star Wars film or conversely read the transcribed article beneath that. The video's better though. Probably.



The cultural phenomenon that is Star Wars has taken some big hits recently, specifically between the years 1999 and 2005, the era that marked the release of the Prequel Trilogy. Though these three films are not without their redeeming qualities they resulted in a massive blow to the good faith that was built up over the years after three ground breaking films, cutting edge video games and a decent, though somewhat inconsistent expanded universe.

The purchase of Lucasfilm by Disney is an opportunity to make things right again, to wipe the slate clean. There’s so much potential to make this saga fantastic again, maybe not to the extent the originals those were, especially the first two, those were like catching lightening in a bottle and it’s hard to catch lightening in a bottle. Besides, if you’re holding a bottle when it’s hit by lightning you would definitely be killed, probably immediately.

Misunderstood metaphors aside, this article aims to look at some ways to make the new Star Wars films successful again. Does that mean anyone involved in these films needs my help on this? Not in the slightest, BUT I’M DOING IT ANYWAYS! Beginning with…

Decide On A Villain Or Villains
First off, pick a major villain or villains and stick to them. There needn’t have been any of this okay here’s your villain, his name is Darth Maul. Oh sorry, he’s dead. Nevermind him, what about this different guy who’s a ninety year old man introduced halfway through the second movie. Do you like him? Irrelevant, he’s dead. Oh and this Grevious guy you’d never heard of until the start of Episode III? Also dead. He’s the most dead. Audiences need to be given time to build a healthy understanding of the villain’s motivations and to fear them. Not so much fear in the respect of ‘that’s a scary looking monster man,’ but fear them for what they could do to a protagonist if they were put in the same room. That’s the difference between your Darth Vader’s and whoever ended up being the villain from 2011’s Green Lantern. I would know that if I didn’t fall asleep watching it on a plane.

Allow For Real Time To Have Passed
When the sequel trilogy hits in 2015, 32 years would have passed between it and Return of the Jedi. So ideally the movie should allow for real time to have passed between those two films. This is only worth mentioning due to this bizarre idea that some film makers have gotten this past five years or so that you can de-age an actor digitally or in fact entirely recreate them using CGI and it looks totally acceptable. The end result is always a near Polar Express level of jarring. Seeing Harrison Ford in a brown wig and having his wrinkles airbrushed away like a Sex and the City movie poster would be a painful cinematic experience. This technology has a long way to go and quite frankly a new Star Wars films isn’t the best place to take it out for another test drive.

Forgot The Prequels (sort of)
This seems like an obvious one but ideally they’d want to cut as many ties as possible with the prequels. Despite being as unpopular as they are, Episodes I to III are official Star Wars canon making it impossible to erase their existence. And that’s fine, but it doesn’t mean they need to be referenced of have any characters carry over. A lot continuity isn’t taken seriously anyways within those films themselves, the idea of midiclorians was only brought up ever in Episode I and the implication that Anakin was created by the Emperor or whatever that opera conversation was about was mentioned once and then dropped immediately. These and others things are yes, things that did happen, but should have no impact on the future instalments. Samual L Jackson has made mention that he’d like to return as perhaps a one handed jedi or a ghost, neither of which work. If he was still alive where has he been for the last five or so decades? And if he’s a ghost nobody living would recognise him. The only actor that would make some sense in returning would be Ewan McGregor reprising his role as Obi Wan, albeit deceased, this would be simply down to Alec Guinness being unavailable due to being both dead and hating Star Wars. But even then, having him appear it’s a bit of a stretch.

Built Some Sets And Puppets And Stuff
Since around the mid 90’s there’s been an overabundance of green screen use and CGI characters used in cinema as opposed to practical sets, prosthetics and puppetry. CGI is at its best when it’s enhancing a prop or set that already exists in the real world. Even some of the most iconic special effect moments in cinema that people believe are computer generated are in fact practical effects. Much of the t-1000 liquid metal…stuff from Terminator 2 was done using prosthetics or puppetry, as is most of the raptor kitchen scene from Jurassic Park. And of course more recently the Inception spinny hallway thing was a real spinny hallway. The point is just because it’s easier to CGI in a background or a character doesn’t mean you should, it can work really well like when creating a distinct comic book world world like Sin City, but not much with your Sky Captain and the World of Who Remembers That Film.

Add A Love Story
Next to the Darth Vader-Luke Skywalker I am your father moment probably the most emotional scene from the Original Trilogy was Han Solo being frozen in carbonite. That scene is crazy intense, the music ramps up, Chewbacca’s all flinging guys around but most importantly it’s heartbreaking because seeing Han and Leia separated in such a dramatic fashion is devastating. You can see when Han tells Chewie that he needs to look after her whilst he’s away that he means it and that these two characters really love one another. Point being one of the main reasons Empire resonates so well with audiences is because when you boil it down, it’s a love story, a love story dressed up with robots and space worms and limb loss, but a love story none-the-less. The new films would probably benefit from a well fleshed out love story that’s results in a union of characters in a natural way that makes sense in the context of the film. In other words the opposite of what we were made to endure in the prequels.

Great Creative With The Spinoffs
It’s been said that in addition to a new trilogy Disney will be releasing a number of spin-off films that will take us places and tell stories that the sequel films couldn’t. This is of course the whole concept behind the expanded universe and it currently includes some fairly diverse ideas, such as Death Troopers, a Star Wars horror story set just before A New Hope. The great thing about spinoff stories is that you can literally tell any story in any time period, ranging to the formation of the Old Republic to thousands of years in the future and ideally Disney and Lucasfilm should take advantage of that. These stories could just as easily run parallel with the sequel trilogy but they don’t necessarily need to be limited to just that.
Additionally any Star Wars spin off story should ideally deal with new a new character we haven’t seen before in any film incarnation. With the exception of perhaps Boba Fett, there aren’t any existing characters that would really require their own movie, and even with Boba Fett he’s become significantly less interesting since his appearance as a ten year old New Zealand boy. That’s not to say existing characters couldn’t make appearances, but the focus should be on people either introduced in the Episode VII, VIII and IX or entirely separate characters.

Thanks for reading/watching everyone! Sound off in the comments with your thoughts on what would make a good Star Wars film and be sure to check back this same time next week for Part Two of Making Star Wars Not Terrible! Or don’t at all, both of those things are viable options.

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kong
kong - 6/2/2013, 5:08 AM
Always love your stuff. Keep it up!
NovaCorpsFan
NovaCorpsFan - 6/2/2013, 5:24 AM
Cool. I just hope its good, no matter what the story is like.
elib
elib - 6/2/2013, 5:25 AM
Wow, great article. That's really interesting thing you picked up on about the villains in the prequels. Lucas just wanted to shove as much cool shit on the screen as he could, including characters.
billnye69
billnye69 - 6/2/2013, 5:29 AM
People are so bias when it comes to classic movies. I know for a fact that psychologically, the only reason most people didn't like the second trilogy is because it wasn't the classic trilogy.

People go in thinking like this.

- Classic were so awesome.
- No way this will be as good, no way.
- The movie will be all special effects and not have the story of the classics.
- Remakes are never any good, no matter what.
- Can't wait to go home afterwards and watch the classics again.
- classics were so much better.


People set themselves up to hate the movie before they have even seen it.
TheNameIsBetty
TheNameIsBetty - 6/2/2013, 5:30 AM
This is THE recipe for a successful Star Wars movie. Ultimately, I think it will boil down to how weighty the story is and how much it affects the canon. Plus, J.J. Abrams is not known for cerebral experiences, something I believe was a common criticism of Star Trek Into Darkness. I loved 'Darkness' though, so I'm only slightly worried. I think he'll knock it out of the park.

Not to mention the fact that the original cast returning is going to be a reunion of legen-

wait for it

-dary proportions.
ROMsnotdead
ROMsnotdead - 6/2/2013, 5:45 AM
excellent article, thanks! i agree with 100% of what you said. most of it is just common sense. Which of course means that we'll get just the opposite on screen. Yeah, you know it too...
LEVITIKUZ
LEVITIKUZ - 6/2/2013, 6:01 AM
I just would like to say a love story is something that is not always needed. A New Hope didnt really have a love story.
ROMsnotdead
ROMsnotdead - 6/2/2013, 6:03 AM
one more rule: No more kids/teenagers ! I couldn't feel any sympathy for teen Anakin in episode II. Like so many others, all I wanted was him to be slapped in the face the whole time. it ruined the movie for me. He was alright in the 3rd movie though. older and more experienced i suppose. But with Disney holding the purse...
Danbojohnj
Danbojohnj - 6/2/2013, 6:07 AM
Script,acting,direction and less CGI are the most important IMO.
ruadh
ruadh - 6/2/2013, 7:10 AM
I'm going to disagree with one point, cutting all ties to the prequels. I'm no prequel lover at all, and actually have tried to simply ignore them, BUT...there's a huge opportunity with the sequel trilogy to not only tie up the saga as a whole even tighter, but possibly get into patching up some of the prequel plotholes. And hopefully in a reasonable and entertaining manner. Why does Leia kinda remember her mom? Lucas said it's her adoptive mom, but I'm sure there's a better explanation. Perhaps her innate abilities with the Force played a role in being able to communicate with her mother for a time at a very young age.

But my point is...yeah, you can try to ignore the prequels, and that'll probably work out just fine. I don't feel it's necessary, and would actually appreciate an attempt to tighten them up. There's some things you just can't fix about them without doing an all new edit with some re-shoots involved, but I think it's entirely possible to make the saga as a whole much stronger by tying ALL the trilogies together.
ruadh
ruadh - 6/2/2013, 7:13 AM
@Danbojohnj
"Script,acting,direction and less CGI are the most important IMO."

I don't think less CG is important at all, but knowing how and when to use it. mid-1970's George Lucas would have told late-1990's George Lucas that effects are just a tool to tell a story, not the other way around. It's important to have someone capable and knowledgeable about effects in the director's chair, and someone who can tell a solid adventure story at the keyboard. Seems like they've done that.
MalteseFalcon
MalteseFalcon - 6/2/2013, 7:18 AM
@Levi but it gave the origin of Leia and Hans love story or the love triangle that went for a while.

Plus whats the big theme? Betrayal, growing up, eventual destruction, greed.
Frostbyte79
Frostbyte79 - 6/2/2013, 8:46 AM
I was discussing the prequels recently and we ended up deciding that they had such an impossible task that they were both doomed from the start and the salvation of any new attempts at SW movies.

When you have to both live up to expectations that were built up over 20 years, and find some way to make the most well-known movie twist ever emotionally impactful, success is highly unlikely. However we now have the option to look at where the prequels fell short and find ways to correct that. The sheer volume of discussion proves that the love for the originals has been reignited and notes for Disney are available anywhere they look for things the public wants from a Star Wars movie.

I've actually got a post going up on my blog tomorrow where I talk about what I think were the biggest failings of the prequels, and Jar Jar is not one of them.
Hellsing
Hellsing - 6/2/2013, 8:55 AM
Wasn't the first one a coming of age story for Luke Skywalker, there problem isn't casting kids and teens its casting good actors. And IF they are going with the trio's offspring then there going to be in the 20's some might be in there 30's even. Also Star Wars has never been cerebral the stories straight forward good guys vs bad guys its that simple. George Lucas tried making it "cerebral" with [frick]ing politics in the prequels and we all know how that worked out.

Long as Orci and Kurtzman are not brought on to re-write the script then I have faith in JJ Abrams but if he does bring them on then its game over. The script [frick]ing abysmal in Star Trek in to Darkness.
gdarmo
gdarmo - 6/2/2013, 9:31 AM
@billnye69

I'd disagree with your assessment that people went into the prequels with a predisposed assumption that they weren't going to be as good as the classic trilogy. I was superhyped for the prequels in the late 90's. I'd voraciously read EU material, comics and novels, and whilst I had some big problems with some of it, it was still 'star wars' to me, although I didn't feel the need to accept it as canon and still don't.
I went into Phantom Menace unspoiled, knowing that this was George Lucas' official version of Anakin's story. To this day I can still watch it and enjoy it on some levels, the music on its own gives me the chills, and I enjoyed the climactic lightsaber battle, but even on that first viewing, being as unbiased as I possibly could be, I couldn't avoid the fact that there are fundamental problems with the movie. And I'm not talking about Jar Jar, who despite being overexposed and being slightly grating as a comedy sidekick, did 'fit in', but the CGI fields of Naboo, with CGI droids fighting CGI Gungans? No-one can get emotionally involved with characters when they are watching an extended cutscene from a computer game. Too many gimmicks like this, from C3PO's origin to the midichlorians just irritated me on that first viewing.
The film lurches clumsily from set piece to set piece. The podracing scene for example is just too long, and designed specifically to sell action figures rather than sell Anakin as an all-powerful wonderchild. Darth Maul is never demonstrated as a real threat. The dialogue is painful at times. Poor Jake Lloyd comes off as just too wooden for words. I don't blame him, I blame Lucas signing off on these scenes as acceptable to put in the movie.
The movie just doesn't work, and I was utterly devastated, that I couldn't love it they way I loved the others.
But if that was a disappointment then Attack of the Clones was actually a worse experience for me. This time I was active on TheForce.net forums, and without being 100% spoiled I had some idea of the plot of the movie. This was the chance to show that Dooku and Palpatine were truly the manipulative creatures the Sith should be. Maul was a blunt instrument but Dooku would be the master manipulator surely?.
A synopsis of sorts appeared on the forums where people had pieced together the small details we knew, plus character names, planet names etc which centred on Dooku as the main villain. I was even more excited this time! As it turned out this synopsis was quite close to the plot of the movie, with one problem - It was better. Dooku just didn't have the same threat level as the character teased in that brilliant synopsis, and that combined with the painful love scenes on Naboo between Anakin and Padme just made the whole moviegoing experience another big disappointment. Anakin suddenly slaughtering the sandpeople had no real build up, whereas the synopsis had shown him driven to the point of madness. If a bunch of geeks on a forum could cobble together a better story over a few days, then what the h£ll was Lucas doing? By the time 'Revenge' came out, my expectations had been lowered significantly. I stayed unspoiled again, I saw it, I didn't utterly hate it, but the wrongs of the earlier movies continued to irritate, and the 'love' story of Anakin and Padme meant nothing to me by the end.
I gave the prequels every chance, but they did come up short on many levels, and I arrived at those conclusions without coercion from the likes of Simon Pegg, movie critics or bloggers. I still think a better prequel story can be salvaged from what Lucas gave us, but I don't see any special editions or animated remakes coming our way anytime soon. The seeds for a good story were there, Lucas just sacrificed that story for gimmicks, action figures and an addiction to CGI.
gdarmo
gdarmo - 6/2/2013, 9:44 AM
@Hellsing

Too Cerebral? Are you kidding me?

The problem was the politics wasn't cerebral enough. This was the perfect way to show that Palpatine was the absolute master of evil. A real Sith Lord who played his enemies like puppets, and manipulated everyone into creating his Empire. Its touched upon with the creation of the clone army, but even that intrigue is messed up with the whole Sifo-Dyas mystery wild goose chase for Obi Wan. Generally Palpatine's political scenes where he advises Padme and later Jar Jar to call for motions in the Senate are just too easy. He is a Sith Lord not a lobbyist, there should be more of a threat to his character.
gaikinger
gaikinger - 6/2/2013, 10:29 AM
The closest thing I have seen t capturing what was great about Star Wars was Serenity hands down.....and why was that? Depth of characters, story, humor, gritty atmosphere, an underreliance on CGI, ext.

I love the idea that some really talented people who truly care about the original trilogy and the aspects of it that made them great and an understanding of the mistakes to avoid now hold the reigns. Very exciting times.
Asterisk
Asterisk - 6/2/2013, 11:22 AM
Just watch the Plinkett Reviews. That's all your answers of A) Why the prequels were bad, specifically and B) How to make the next Star Wars film.
Ceejay
Ceejay - 6/2/2013, 11:25 AM
To make a decent Star Wars movie don't include anyone remotely related to the family Skywalker, they've proven to be idiots.
Azrael725
Azrael725 - 6/2/2013, 11:32 AM
My thoughts:

1. Great story. You have to create a story that has to last over a trilogy. That was the formula for the original trilogy and it worked brilliantly. The prequels created three separate stories with huge gaps in between and I think that's where it faltered. Create a story that can evolve over the course of three films much like the LOTR trilogy.

2. The Villain. I agree that you have to have a great villain. The villain has to someone who can do things that no one else can do which makes the hero all that more heroic when he defeats him/her.

3. Move forward. I believe that for this trilogy to work is to not focus too much on any of the previous films. The original characters can return, but do not focus on them. Let a new team rise to the occasion and be the heroes. Let the original characters take a backseat. i think the only character who is allowed to play a larger role would be Luke. Him rebuilding the Jedi order is a great story element and should be used in some manner.

4. The World. I think what makes the original trilogy so fantastic is that its not just a sci-fi movie. It actually has supernatural, or fantasy, elements. The idea of The Force being this mysterious energy I think is what truly provides a much broader and exciting experience. The prequels turned The Force into science and Star Wars became all sci-fi. Somebody commented saying how Serenity created a world that came very close to the original trilogy and I agree 100%. This is the post-Empire galaxy now. You have to create a world that is gritty and is still recovering after years of war. Not everything is clean and neatly trimmed. Create a world with believable characters that are seemingly apart of this world.

5. Action. You have to create action that isn't there just to look pretty. The action has be a part of the story. The action has to flow along. the first confrontation between Luke and Vader is a perfect example. Luke knew it would happen and Vader was there waiting for him. It was all set up to build to this climactic scene. Then came their second confrontation. The entire trilogy built up to that final duel. Luke believed his father was still good and that made the duel all that more emotional and powerful. The prequel trilogy there in action more as filler material and most it had no effect on the story whatsoever. The podrace is a good example. Even the duel with Darth Maul had no impact on the story. It was really just a way to kill off Qui Gon and create some cool set pieces. One good example from the prequels is the second duel between Anakin and Dooku. When Dooku is on his knees Anakin is conflicted and eventually is swayed by Palpatine. This builds a conflict within Anakin that adds to the story. I'm gonna say that in The Dark Knight Rises, the first fight between Batman and Bane is a great example of action that relates to the story. The entire movie built up to this confrontation between a broken hero and an unstoppable force. It then provided a reason for Bruce to be out of commission. This is where the action has to take place.

those are my thoughts. :)
davidwiz
davidwiz - 6/2/2013, 11:38 AM
i didnt like it that they turned the force into science instead of magic or mystical. but i wish that all superhero and scifi everything would be cgi. did you see star wars the old republic trailers? they were the best stuff on the planet. one jedi against 5 sith and not done in the horrendous way as obi wan and qui gonn in the first episode agaisnt darth maul? also with superhero movies the dc universe online trailer? best stuff on the planet!! why do you guys dont like cgi thats what i wanna know!!! god why pay robert downey jr 80 million when you could have a cgi char i dont understand!!! does the audience really love him more than the action????
Panoramacon
Panoramacon - 6/2/2013, 12:07 PM
Define successful.
I think successful in this case means recapturing the feel and spirit of the original films while treading into new territory. This means thinking in broad strokes, generalities after fair tales, themes of man versus technology, simplicity, fully non ironic embrace of early 20th Century heroism and ideals of the serials that inspired Lucas originally; all the things this generation would call naive, devolved and unrealistic.

Special mention is the PT. Ignore it completely. Thinks like Leia remembering her mother, midichlorians, and such just simply can not be fixed but sure can be made worse. I would rather have the plot holes at this point.
ndwwrestler2
ndwwrestler2 - 6/2/2013, 12:34 PM
When Abrams makes his Star Wars movie

Priority one: Make a great movie for regular moviegoers

Priority two: More action scenes with Blasters then Lightsabers

Priority three: Don't kill off your coolest characters with potential right away (Like Lucas did with Maul and the Fett's)

Priority four: If you add a love story, do not let it overwhelm the movie (like the prequels). And at the very least make it a believable love story.

Priority five: Respect the originals, but make your movie it's own.

Swiftsword777
Swiftsword777 - 6/2/2013, 2:55 PM
@Azrael725 all that typying and know one gives a damn!
Azrael725
Azrael725 - 6/2/2013, 2:59 PM
@Swiftsword777 yeah I know haha I was bored.
Hyperionsisthetruth
Hyperionsisthetruth - 6/2/2013, 7:14 PM
Plenty of better stories Exar kun and ulic qel droma or even darth bane.....leave skywalkers alone they are all too old and too much would be be missed with their kids being grown....take it back to major Sith and major Jedi battles
EdgyOutsider
EdgyOutsider - 6/2/2013, 7:22 PM
Here's a tip, improve on mistakes of every Star Wars movie that had come before. Like, don't make every character one dimensional. Just a suggestion.
LuckDragon
LuckDragon - 6/2/2013, 9:25 PM
I think they should reconstruct what the Prequel Trilogy got wrong; meaning, take all of the inconsistencies (midichlorians,force powers, timelines, etc) and repackage them to make sense with the Original Trilogy. It won't be easy but it could be accomplished with clever writing and character development. I hate to say this, but I am starting to have a bad feeling about the new Trilogy...to much red tape, and who wants George looking over their shoulder saying, "A Jedi can't do that, or a Sith can't do that". Just let it go already George, you screwed it all up with the Prequels, now let someone else clean up your mess.
KoonEl
KoonEl - 6/2/2013, 9:35 PM
Episode 3 made 848,754,768

Episode 2 made 649,398,328

Episode 1 made 533,827,888

That was before 3D and not adjusted for inflation. The movies had their faults for sure, but most studios would still kill for those numbers even today. Star Wars has hardly taken a hit because certain fan boys think that they were garbage.
FancyLemon
FancyLemon - 6/2/2013, 11:02 PM
These are all good points! The thing that frustrated me the most with the prequels is how unplayful and unlikable the characters were. There was no Han Solo character to make a sarcastic comment or make a joke. C-3PO and R2 hardly even argued at all! If JJ Abrams can bring the "fun" back into Star Wars and get rid of the melodramatic seriousness of the prequels, I think Episode VII will be a great.
jjk2814
jjk2814 - 6/2/2013, 11:41 PM
Nice write-up. Well written for sure...

However, I'm jumping in with the prequel supporters; for a couple reasons.

As Koonel pointed out, the prequels can not be called unsuccessful or "a hit."
They were financial successes and generally not critically decimated.

Its too damn easy to forget that they are much loved by their target audience. Growing up with Star Wars, it was exciting to see a future audience have the prequel trilogy to see for the first time. Every young kid who I have helped expose to Star Wars prefers the prequels to the originals. They prefer the "clumsy and random" whilst we prefer the films from "a more civilized age."

I personally would like to see the future films use some elements from the prequels, sparingly and appropriately to create a continuity amongst all the films. We should all want that.

Just like the original trilogy there will be preferences amongst fans as to which trilogy is their favorite. Some fans still pick the hell out of Return of the Jedi. Some call A New Hope boring. I think both opinions are insane but they exist and always will.

The future trilogy should stand for all fans, not just fans of the originals.
bigmac2012
bigmac2012 - 6/3/2013, 9:07 AM
Sure..... does the future of Star Wars hold some potential? Yeah....... kinda..... as long as Disney doesn't help screw things up.

However, if things go wrong and we just end up giving them enough rope to hang us all, we could all be left begging for the days of Jar-Jar.

Come to http://rmcmillen.hubpages.com/hub/An-Open-Letter-To-All-Star-Wars-Geeks for the open letter to fans, but stay for the quiz and maybe even the documentary................ or at least part of it............................... what? the danged thing is 7 hours long! However, it DOES remind you about exactly why we all loved Star Wars to begin with and gives you a glimpse as to how great it once was and probably never will be again.
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