ROGUE ONE Director Gareth Edwards Admits To Being Nervous About Bringing Back [SPOILER]

ROGUE ONE Director Gareth Edwards Admits To Being Nervous About Bringing Back [SPOILER]

Many of you will have seen Rogue One by now, but just in case we're gonna keep one of the film's secrets a bit longer! Click on to find out what Edwards had to say about bringing back a certain someone.

By MarkCassidy - Dec 17, 2016 06:12 AM EST
Filed Under: Star Wars
One of the most divisive aspects of Rogue One: A Star Wars Story was the resurrection of the legendary Peter Cushing as a CG version of the icy Grand Moff Tarkin from A New Hope. Though the special effects used were clearly top notch, many felt that the uncanny valley was still an issue and it took them out of the movie.

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In a new interview with IGN, director Gareth Edwards reveals that he was initially apprehensive about bringing the character back, but was convinced that it could be done effectively. He also reveals the identity of the British actor who actually played Tarkin pre-CG makeover.


Do you guys think they did a good job with the CG Tarkin, or would you have preferred if the character was only glimpsed briefly looking out the window in that first shot?

Rogue One is in theaters now, and you can check out my review HERE.
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JoshWilding
JoshWilding - 12/17/2016, 6:44 AM
Sorry Gareth, I loved the movie, but you got it wrong. Tarkin looked like a cartoon.
MarkCassidy
MarkCassidy - 12/17/2016, 6:57 AM
@JoshWilding - Yeah I agree. I mean the effects were clearly as good as they could be, but if you're going to use a completely CG human character than he can't LOOK like a CG human character. They should have just used prosthetics on that other actor and maybe enhanced certain elements (his eyes, cheekbones etc) with CG.
MrDandy
MrDandy - 12/17/2016, 7:04 AM
@RorMachine - Agreed. I would have also preferred a different actor play that role under prosthetics or just use him as a hologram where the CGI would have been more shielded and less noticeable.
Ragnarocknroll
Ragnarocknroll - 12/17/2016, 7:12 AM
@RorMachine - As a Vfx artist myself, it tends to get very frustrating for me whenever I see people try to 'fix' vfx situations they don't agree with by just saying " oh they should have just used practical" or "oh, they should have used mixture of CG and practical" without, and no offence, knowing much about the intricacies of the actual task. Here's the thing - what you saw on Rogue One was a mixture of make-up and vfx.You can't make believable CG humans in any other way. Also, going full-practical would've just made the final product more stiff and fake than ever before, not to mention restrictive in terms of performance.

Like it or not, practical effects or even a mixture of that and CG is not a viable solution for EVERY vfx challenge.
MarkCassidy
MarkCassidy - 12/17/2016, 7:20 AM
@MonsieurCringe - You don't have to be an expert on something to have an opinion on what worked/didn't work. Whatever the process they did use was, it didn't work, and he looked like a PS4 character. Without knowing the ins and outs of how these things are accomplished, I can tell you that I personally would have preferred another actor wearing prosthetics with slight CG enhancements if needs be, and used much more sparingly. It never once left my mind that Krennic was conversing with a cartoon while watching the movie.
JoshWilding
JoshWilding - 12/17/2016, 7:23 AM
@RorMachine - Exactly! I honestly don't understand how Lucasfilm were happy for the movie to be released with him in that state. The clips of Cushing in the video above made me realise even more how bad the CG version looked.
MrDandy
MrDandy - 12/17/2016, 7:03 AM
Whoever did Tarkin's voice was SPOT ON, but Tarkin himself was inconsistent and often times Uncanny Valley.

He worked well when framed alone, but when he was shown alongside real actors, that's where the CGI really stood out and became distracting.
AidsIhave
AidsIhave - 12/17/2016, 7:20 AM
@MrDandy - Spot on. The Cgi probably couldn't be better but next to real humans it was really apparent that he was cgi, which was jarring.
ODanil
ODanil - 12/17/2016, 7:22 AM
@MrDandy - "often times Uncanny Valley." I don't think you can use it like that.
MrDandy
MrDandy - 12/17/2016, 7:28 AM
@ODanil - Yes you can. Uncanny Valley is a noun. And it WAS uncanny valley.
goatman
goatman - 12/17/2016, 9:04 AM
@MrDandy - Maybe you're just trolling, in which case, whatever. You're right that "Uncanny Valley" is a noun, but the it is not the subject of the sentence, neither in your original statement nor your corrective statement, and therefore it is used differently.

"Tarkin himself was inconsistent and often times uncanny valley" The subject noun of the sentence is Tarkin... strip the sentence to its bare essentials and you're saying "Tarkin was uncanny valley". Same with your reply - "It was uncanny valley."

IF either of those statements sound correct, I believe you are mistaken. To test the grammar one only needs to replace the noun "Uncanny Valley" with another noun. Try this: "Tarkin was TRUCK" "Tarkin was BUILDING" "Tarkin was KEYBOARD" "It was TIRE" "It was SPEAKER"

So, while "Uncanny Valley" may be a noun, it's not used the same way. Replace it with an adjective to test. For example, "Tarkin was red" or "Tarkin was sad"

In order to use the term "Uncanny Valley" the way you intend, one simply adds "a" or "an". For example, "Tarkin was an uncanny valley"

Once again, test the result by replacing it with another noun. "Tarkin was a TRUCK" Tarkin was a BUILDING" Despite being neither of those things, the rule applies.

"Tarkin himself was inconsistent and often times appeared to be an uncanny valley" and "it was an uncanny valley"

I really don't care, but if you're going to tell someone else they're wrong, you should consider if you are right.
bropous
bropous - 12/17/2016, 9:59 AM
@goatman - Uh, what is "uncanny valley"? What does that even mean?
MrDandy
MrDandy - 12/17/2016, 4:49 PM
@bropous - Uncanny valley refers to something that is really close to reality and slightly off, making it look unsettling or sometimes creepy.
bropous
bropous - 12/18/2016, 10:29 AM
@MrDandy - Thanks!
Earthbound
Earthbound - 12/17/2016, 7:26 AM
Tarkin didn't look as bad as Leia at the end though. Tarkin looked as good as they could I believe but Leia was just bad. She looked like a Shrek character. I appreciate what they did with the characters and I appreciate what they were trying to do with the cgi, but it just didn't work. Leia should have been better than Tarkin though. They should have done the effects similar to how Ant-Man did it with Hank Pym and Peggy Carter. But I still loved the movie. Really satisfied by it through and through.
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