STAR WARS: THE LAST JEDI Director Rian Johnson Elaborates On Why We Didn't See The Knights Of Ren

STAR WARS: THE LAST JEDI Director Rian Johnson Elaborates On Why We Didn't See The Knights Of Ren

We haven't seen the Knights of Ren since The Force Awakens and are none the wiser when it comes to who or what they are after watching The Last Jedi. So, why didn't the movie offer an explanation?

By JoshWilding - Jan 18, 2018 01:01 AM EST
Filed Under: Star Wars
Source: Empire Online
We caught our first glimpse of the Knights of Ren in Star Wars: The Force Awakens but aside from Luke Skywalker's throwaway mention of Kylo Ren disappearing with a handful of his students, The Last Jedi failed to shed any light on who or what the group actually are. During a recent interview, Rian Johnson was asked to elaborate on his decision to not include them and it boils down to timing issues.

With so many characters already in The Last Jedi, the filmmaker was concerned about overcrowding and there simply wasn't any room for the group of fallen Jedi (he also weighs in why the Knights didn't wind up being used as Supreme Leader Snoke's Praetorian Guard who were killed by Kylo and Rey). 

 
"We have a very full movie already there literally was just not room for another element. I guess I could’ve used them in place of the Praetorian guards but then it would feel like wasting them because all those guards had to die. And if Kylo had some kind of connection to them it would’ve added a complication that wouldn’t have helped the scene… Truth is, I just didn’t see a place for them in the movie."

Now, it's up to Episode IX to finally pull back the curtain on these Knights but if J.J. Abrams also decides there's no room for them, they'll remain one of the trilogy's biggest plot holes. That would be a shame, of course, but seeing as Abrams introduced them, the filmmaker will no doubt make some room for them. What do you guys think? As always, be sure to let us know your thoughts in the usual place.
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NicolausCopernicus
NicolausCopernicus - 1/18/2018, 1:34 AM
Instead we rather waste time on this:

(Actual clip from the movie)
Fogs
Fogs - 1/18/2018, 12:16 PM
@NicolausCopernicus - hahahah

Well, it’s good he didn’t eant to waste the Knights of Ren.

Wish he had the same resilience when he decides wasting Snoke.
SonOfAGif
SonOfAGif - 1/18/2018, 1:38 AM
So instead of focusing on the Knights of Ren from the beginning of the film you focused on b/s Force Lucid Dreaming of two characters while ruining other characters?

The film should have been about Snoke and the Knights of Ren discovering the location of Luke, and they launch an assault on Luke's homeworld where Rey, Luke, Chewbacca, and R2D2 must retreat and try to reach the resistance.

Snoke sensing some light within Kylo puts his loyalty to the test by capturing Leia forcing Luke and Rey to go and rescue her while evading and battling the Knights.
140GrimeKid
140GrimeKid - 1/18/2018, 1:48 AM
@SonOfAGif - christ almighty I loved TlJ but that’s sounds so much better!
konoyaro
konoyaro - 1/18/2018, 2:03 AM
@SonOfAGif - i hate you!

you actually saw episode 8 didn't you?
you described the movie i should had watched!!!
instead of that i saw a mess of a movie that the ticket lady said to me it was a SWs movie.
i got duped!!


SonOfAGif
SonOfAGif - 1/18/2018, 2:20 AM
@konoyaro - I wish it were true. The Knights of Ren would have been awesome advisaries.
SonOfAGif
SonOfAGif - 1/18/2018, 2:29 AM
@140GrimeKid - And it could have ended with Leia dying in combat (due to Carey Fischer's passing). This would have turned Kylo against the First Order for him to join forces with the new Jedi alliance of Luke and Rey. With the 9th film being about Luke, Rey, Kylo, and the resistance launching one final attack on the First Order. Maybe name it:

Star Wars Jedi Ascension
Doomsday8888
Doomsday8888 - 1/18/2018, 3:10 AM
@SonOfAGif
Heh, son of a gif, that'sounds really good.
konoyaro
konoyaro - 1/18/2018, 4:00 AM
@SonOfAGif - im being honest your pit to this movie is a 100000 TIMES BETTER then what we got.
Vigor
Vigor - 1/18/2018, 4:00 AM
@SonOfAGif - how do you know that. We know nothing about the Knights of ren to make that statement
Timerider84
Timerider84 - 1/18/2018, 5:34 AM
@SonOfAGif - I wanted this Disney, it makes more sense, then what we got. This is way better.
MyBeard
MyBeard - 1/18/2018, 9:24 AM
@SonOfAGif - You sir, could have a very bright future in fan fiction.
SonOfAGif
SonOfAGif - 1/20/2018, 2:50 AM
@MyBeard - thank you all father.
Kevwebsz
Kevwebsz - 1/18/2018, 1:39 AM
Should've just made this JJ's trilogy. Why have him do the first and last but then give Rian his own trilogy BEFORE TLJ is released?
AwesomePromoz
AwesomePromoz - 1/18/2018, 1:59 AM
Because the PT and LOTR are two examples of trilogies where the directors got burned out and lost their minds, over-relying on cgi instead of storytelling.
Origame
Origame - 1/18/2018, 4:20 AM
@Kevwebsz - Because the only time we got one director covering all movies was with the prequels. Heck, neither Rian or JJ weren't even supposed to be involved with the third one but then all that Book of Henry business happened.
BlackConvoy
BlackConvoy - 1/18/2018, 5:26 AM
@Kevwebsz - I think JJ is a Paramount guy. He's signed with them to make movies. So I don't think it would have been so easy to have him do all three because he was already going to be doing MI6.
Scarilian
Scarilian - 1/18/2018, 7:01 AM
@Kevwebsz -

JJ had no trilogy plans.

He was brought on to create mysteries, something he was admittedly good at.

He never intended to answer them and they never intended him to return, any mysteries he set-up would have been answered by the next director/writers but they decided [frick] that and just dont bother.

TLJ is basically the equivalent of a kid having a strop and scribbling over the homework with random doodles.
MUTO123
MUTO123 - 1/18/2018, 1:46 AM
To everybody saying "Waaaa, this movie should've done this, it should've done that, I didn't get what I wanted, blah blah blah...", it's Johnson's movie. He makes the decisions. Not you. [frick]ing grow up and deal with it.
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