STAR WARS: THE RISE OF SKYWALKER "Rey Skywalker" Twist Was Discussed Before THE FORCE AWAKENS Release

STAR WARS: THE RISE OF SKYWALKER "Rey Skywalker" Twist Was Discussed Before THE FORCE AWAKENS Release

Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker's big "Rey Skywalker" moment has come in for a lot of backlash, but it's an idea that has been discussed behind the scenes of Lucasfilm since before The Force Awakens...

By JoshWilding - Apr 03, 2020 10:04 AM EST
Filed Under: Star Wars
Source: Screen Rant

The "Art of" book for Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker recently went on sale, and it includes some very interesting reveals about the sequel trilogy. Since the final chapter of the Skywalker Saga arrived in theaters, we've been treated to a lot of new details which the movie itself didn't cover, but no one has really elaborated on that divisive final scene...until now. 

According to Screen Rant, the book contains details on a Lucasfilm story group meeting which took place in May 2014 (eighteen months before the release of The Force Awakens in 2015). 

Pablo Hidalgo reflects on that, and explained that even then, the idea of Rey being a "Skywalker" - in name only - was discussed. "I like the idea that she's going to be our Skywalker, but she's not a Skywalker," he says. "Then, for our purposes, 'the Skywalker' is really a metaphor. It doesn't have to be something that's directly connected to blood."

That's a decision which hasn't sat very well with a lot of fans, especially as Rey's true identity as the daughter of a failed Emperor Palpatine clone (making him her father and grandfather?) essentially turns the "Skywalker Saga" into the "Palpatine Saga." It also means that if we meet any Skywalkers in the future, they will actually be the descendants of the Galaxy's greatest villain. 

It was a weird creative decision on Lucasfilm's parts, and not one that's likely to be forgiven by many longtime fans of the franchise, especially as the actual Skywalker bloodline ended with Ben Solo's demise.

How did you guys feel about the Rey Skywalker twist?

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tmp3
tmp3 - 4/3/2020, 10:32 AM
JonC
JonC - 4/3/2020, 11:03 AM
@tmp3 - Anakin himself... has "no father" per Smee's own words... was she metaphorical or literal... was he created via the force or simply has no father that stayed around... or the emperor?!?
So the whole lineage starting with Anakin are essentially Force creations, if Rey was created in a similar way... via the force or Emperor... would she be any different?
mastakilla39
mastakilla39 - 4/3/2020, 11:29 AM
@JonC - But Rey is a palpetine. The EN said it was palpetine's failed clone who banged her mom and made a baby. Force Awakens is therefore no longer a reliable source because Disney has shown that what is written off screen is more accurate than what is shown in theaters.
kylo0607
kylo0607 - 4/3/2020, 10:33 AM
The "Rey Skywalker" quote at the end would've been more meaningful if she actually earned it.

She barely even spent a few days with Luke in TLJ, with him NOT training her and then she left the island on bad terms with him.
ShimmyShimmyYA
ShimmyShimmyYA - 4/3/2020, 10:35 AM
@kylo0607 - skywalker should’ve been a new title of warriors like Jedi and sith
GhostDog
GhostDog - 4/3/2020, 10:37 AM
@ShimmyShimmyYA - this would’ve worked well. I thought they would go this route.

The Jedi and Sith seemed to be sects and ideas that were growing antiquated, according to these movies. It felt like it was moving towards something new.
GhostDog
GhostDog - 4/3/2020, 10:41 AM
@TheJustinHammer - Skywalker Sect
ShimmyShimmyYA
ShimmyShimmyYA - 4/3/2020, 10:41 AM
@BillCipher - because the trilogy seemed to be heading towards a conclusion that maybe the sith and Jedi both got their flaws , with Rey maybe Kylo being the ones to lead a new way of thinking would’ve made them their own people / story too instead relying on OT stuff like the emperor being the final villain
tmp3
tmp3 - 4/3/2020, 10:42 AM
@TheJustinHammer - Just call them the New Order. Maybe they could play futurist music too.
ShimmyShimmyYA
ShimmyShimmyYA - 4/3/2020, 10:44 AM
@BillCipher - I can understand that, I think it kinda works cause skywalker family has ties to the dark and light side of the force
GhostDog
GhostDog - 4/3/2020, 10:45 AM
@TheJustinHammer - it’s a little silly I agree. But Star Wars is “silly” right?

And Skywalker has always sounded like a title more than a name. It has that Native American moniker vibe to it. It’s a name but it’s also a title of sorts; could easily represent a clan or collective.

Coming up with a new name for the order, I’m too lazy for that haha
JonC
JonC - 4/3/2020, 11:04 AM
@kylo0607 - but she had training with Leia as well.
JonC
JonC - 4/3/2020, 11:04 AM
@ShimmyShimmyYA - I kinda always thought they were.
FleischerSupes
FleischerSupes - 4/3/2020, 11:09 AM
@ShimmyShimmyYA - That would have made sense several ways. I was so sure that 's what they were going to do that I laughed out loud when I heard they didn't. I say I heard it because obviously, I will never watch the movie.
ShimmyShimmyYA
ShimmyShimmyYA - 4/3/2020, 11:23 AM
@FleischerSupes - can’t blame you , love or hate TLJ to me ROS felt too much like a reaction to the last movie / fandom than an action of telling a story
KNIGHT3OOO
KNIGHT3OOO - 4/3/2020, 3:10 PM
@ShimmyShimmyYA - No disrespect, That is an awful idea. The term is "Force sensitive" or "strong with the force". I know the Jedi are some what based on Shaolin and Samurai, but this ain't Buddha
GhostDog
GhostDog - 4/3/2020, 10:36 AM
“I like the idea that she's going to be our Skywalker, but she's not a Skywalker,"


“Then, for our purposes, 'the Skywalker' is really a metaphor.”
knocturnalzen10
knocturnalzen10 - 4/3/2020, 10:41 AM
@BlackBeltJones - i can re-watch that skit all day lol lmfao lol great interview by Jail king lmfao lol
GhostDog
GhostDog - 4/3/2020, 10:41 AM
@knocturnalzen10 - it’s the best skit they’ve done in a long time
THEDARKKNIGHT1939
THEDARKKNIGHT1939 - 4/3/2020, 10:39 AM
It's funny how at this point it actually comes as a surprise that they had discussions on where a character's arc would end.
GhostDog
GhostDog - 4/3/2020, 10:41 AM
@THEDARKKNIGHT1939 - LOL!
SANSHORYU
SANSHORYU - 4/3/2020, 10:41 AM
hot garbage
CurlyBill
CurlyBill - 4/3/2020, 10:42 AM
Yeah we get...it wasn't hard to get in the first place. In hindsight they should have just let Rey be a nobodie, but handle it better then TLJ. Have her find out midway through Force Awakens, then have the rest of the trilogy be about her finding her place in the universe.
AC1
AC1 - 4/3/2020, 10:44 AM
This was one of the things I actually liked about Rise of Skywalker. Not only does giving Palpatine a presence in the sequel trilogy give the saga an overarching narrative of it being a conflict between the Skywalker and Palpatine families, but making Rey Palpatine's granddaughter but having her choose the name Skywalker symbolises that Saga-long conflict and reinforces the saga's a nature vs nurture/dark vs light themes too - obviously starting with Anakin's fall and redemption, and then Luke's temptation toward the dark side and rejection of it; Ben's fall and redemption then reflect Anakin's, while Rey's journey reflects Luke's.

The Rise of Skywalker was VERY flawed, but I think it handled this aspect quite well. It was let down by a number of other problems.
MasterMix
MasterMix - 4/3/2020, 10:49 AM
Original Trilogy = Satisfying group effort of one man's vision
Prequel Trilogy = One man's vision taken to focused if misguided territory
Sequel Trilogy = Corporate manufactured nostalgia without a singular vision
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