EDITORIAL: How Should SPIDER-MAN Be Handled In The MCU?

EDITORIAL: How Should SPIDER-MAN Be Handled In The MCU?

In the last few weeks, it’s been revealed that Marvel and Sony may come to a deal regarding Spider-Man appearing in Civil War and given his own new trilogy. How should this be handled? Should the ASM continuity stick? Click the jump to read BatmanHeisenberg’s possible solutions!

Editorial Opinion
By BatmanHeisenberg - Dec 12, 2014 10:12 PM EST
Filed Under: Spider-Man


These last few weeks for Sony has been hell, I’m sure. What’s theorized by many to be North Korea’s doing, has been a total disaster. It’s predicted that Sony may lose over $100 Million, and words such as “sexist” and “racist” have become common complaints racked against Sony.

 


One key thing that caught everyone’s attention were the Sony/Marvel negotiations that apparently took place. Apparently there was some negotiations in October to have Spidey appear in Civil War and then his own trilogy fell through, and the current status of the situation appears to be in shambles, and Andrew Garfield is rumored to have been fired.

I think that Feige wanted Spider-Man to have the role he had in the comic, and wanted to announce him at the big event that happened in October. It’s very possible that after the Spidey stuff fell through, it was decided that Black Panther would take his place. The Russos sent an email to Sony STRONGLY urging them to rethink the proposition and added in they were willing to produce the (theoretical) new trilogy of films.

Now as someone who thought The Winter Soldier was amazing, the Russos having any influence on Spider-Man made me ecstatic. I did think that maybe Garfield could be given another chance, and it could work. Many disagree, but hey, c'est la vie. Many have given some ideas as to how Spider-Man could be used, and to toss a bit more gas into the fire, here’s two options I think Sony/Marvel could have if they figure it out. I will say I think a Civil War appearance SHOULD happen, and if they come to an agreement by February, that he could take Black Panther’s more pivotal role, or just make a cameo. Without further ado, here’s my two ideas:

 

OPTION #1: Keep Garfield and the ASM Continuity
 

Now, now, don’t get mad! I know Garfield’s performance as Spidey has been widely criticized, and many hate the ASM continuity. I get that, and understand people’s hate. BUT, another reboot in 3-5 years may be a bit too much for the GA. I also think the ASM continuity could work in the MCU as well. Think about it, all the construction happening in the first movie could have been a result of the Avenger’s final battle in The Avengers. Not much else can be said regarding it’s place, but I do think that the adventures in the first two can work within the bounds of the MCU.

Regarding Garfield, I think he was a great Spidey and an okay Peter. I think most of the problems with TASM movies were the direction, script and a blinding money obsession, not so much Garfield. I will say however that he is getting a bit old, and that by the time a trilogy produced by the Russos would come around, he would be in his mid-30s. So I feel like though it could work, I don’t know if I want it to. Which is why I prefer the second option…
 

Option #2: Reboot Spidey in Civil War
 

This option I think is much more preferable, even though it’s so soon of a reboot. My idea is to have Spider-Man have an appearance in Civil War. It’s theorized that Black Panther is taking Spider-Man’s place as the person who is torn between two sides. As I stated, Spider-Man could retake this position if negotiations took place soon enough. However, Civil War starts shooting in April, and it might take some time for Spidey to have that big of a role, so it could be awesome if they just gave him a glorified cameo in Civil War, just establish him.

But what of his post-Civil War potential, and possible pre-Civil War career? Now many of you may be asking, PRE-Civil War Career?? Yes, pre-Civil War. I think that maybe not him appearing before Civil War, but his parents directly or indirectly mentioned on Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. Now I’d like to give a shoutout to @Inhuman for this idea! I absolutely love it! I think the reference and/or appearance would show Peter Parker’s parents as SHIELD agents. That would be cool and a nice tidbit for viewers as a nod towards the fans. It should be rather small, in my opinion. And that would be his pre-Civil War career besides maybe a mention in one of next year’s Marvel films.

Now, regarding his post-Civil War career, I think he should definitely be in Infinity War. Nothing terribly extreme, but helping the Avengers out in New York or something would be pretty amazing. I think after his smaller role in Infinity War, he’s the Iron Man of Phase Four. That’d be the ideal situation for me.

 

But I thought of something that could happen between Infinity War and Civil War. Spidey is given a miniseries telling his origin, which would take place before Civil War and after Age of Ultron, and would really flesh out the character and his origin. Now this is definitely a pipe dream, sure. But narratively, it makes sense, it also holds fans over, and really distinguishes this Peter and everything about him that can just give the new trilogy the ability not to have to touch on it. I don’t think it has to be a full season like Daredevil or any of the other Defender’s, but maybe 2-4 episodes just to give fans something really nice. I would think it would be on Netflix, and the amount of people watching it would be enough to build excitement for the reboot trilogy/Infinity War.

I will only touch on the potential trilogy produced by the Russo brothers. I heard a Dark Reign suggestion that sounded neat. (I think it was @0megaDaGod... If so, shoutout!) I’m not exactly sure what the trilogy would entail, but an escalation from movie to movie is ideal, and a more comic accurate Norman Osborne would be amazing. Again, not to sure about what it would entail, but I do think the Dark Reign idea is pretty solid.

 

Now that I’ve touched on how I feel his presence should be felt, what actor should play him? I think Logan Lerman is a solid choice.

He’s a great actor, and despite a big blunder or two (see the Percy Jackson movies!) his performance in Perks of Being a Wallflower was solid and critically acclaimed. He’s also looks young enough to pass as a high school student, and quite frankly looks quite like Peter to me.

 

Well that wraps it all up folks! I hope you all enjoyed my recommendation or two! I’d like to thank @Inhuman(and @0megaDaGod to? Not sure. Please don’t get mad if it was someone else!) again, and remember,

 

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BatmanHeisenberg
BatmanHeisenberg - 12/12/2014, 11:49 PM
Be sure to hit the red thumb! I hope you all liked the article!
BatmanHeisenberg
BatmanHeisenberg - 12/13/2014, 12:23 AM
@Jollem

Ryan Gosling shouldn't be Spidey.

@Inhuman

Hey no problem, glad you liked it! I will say I didn't think to much about the casting, and so I kinda came up with one on the fly. But he seems great, I agree!
BatmanHeisenberg
BatmanHeisenberg - 12/13/2014, 1:04 AM
I also said he should have a small role in IW and have a miniseries.
MightyZeus
MightyZeus - 12/13/2014, 1:21 AM
This was a well done editorial. I would love to see Spider-man in the MCU. I would not mind if he where to be introduced, you don't really need an origin for the character it's been done twice and it's still fresh in everyone's minds.
Jaffi
Jaffi - 12/13/2014, 3:45 AM
There have been a gazillion of these articles. Luckily yours is pretty well done, so thumbs up.

As for Logan Lerman, not sure why everybody seems to want him. Visually I can see it, but acting-wise I'm not sure. I saw the first Percy Jackson movie years ago which was terrible, but I can't remember how good or bad he was.
DrKinsolving
DrKinsolving - 12/13/2014, 3:45 AM
Nice and Logan Lerman's performance in Fury is what sold me, he was awesome in that movie, and he held his own acting aside Pitt and a lot of other great actors. He's also expressed interest in playing Spider-Man, he is definitely my top choice.

Nice article, and great ideas. Except for bringing Garfield or anything attached to TASM movies into the MCU, "Sony's Spider-Man" needs to stay away from the MCU, Marvel has worked so hard to build up their brand successfully and they are telling amazing stories and introducing awesome complex characters. Bringing Garfield and Sony's marketing execs, or anything Sony TASM related into the MCU would be a huge step back for Marvel, not only could it mess with the storytelling and movies, but if Garfield/Sony's Spider-Man became popular in the MCU, Marvel would have to deal with Sony Marketing Execs continuously and it could potentially ruin the MCU. Marvel needs control of Spider-Man, just like they have control of their other characters.

Marvel deserves a chance with Spidey, and Spidey deserves Marvel. Spider-Man needs a fresh start and Marvel can give it to him.
nilzzz
nilzzz - 12/13/2014, 3:46 AM
Logan Lerman would be a good choice, but I also would like Dylan O'Brian. An upcoming actor who just has it first major movie to star (The Maze Runner) and his role in Teen Wolf showed his funny side, wich is also needed for Spidey.


beto
beto - 12/13/2014, 4:23 AM
Idris Elba should be Peter. Either him or Michael Fassbender.

kong
kong - 12/13/2014, 4:25 AM
If I could have anyone for Spidey it'd be Grant Gustin, but that'll never happen.

I basically had the same ideas as you when it came to rebooting him and all that jazz. I think that the Netflix show should show a new Spidey and a new take on his villains that we've never seen before. I'd love to see him like more of a street hero. Maybe Green Goblin runs the Goblin gang or something, use Hammerhead, Silvermane, Kingpin, Rhino is an enforcer for the Russian mob, etc.
DrKinsolving
DrKinsolving - 12/13/2014, 4:54 AM
Logan Lerman would rock as Peter Parker/Spider-Man....

I don't want to spoil "Fury" because the movie was amazing but the movie totally sold me on him playing Spidey, definitely my top choice

jCamer0n
jCamer0n - 12/13/2014, 4:58 AM
Garfield did a great job in TASM 1 and 2 but my first choice for Spidey is this guy but he is now playing QS. :(

Abary
Abary - 12/13/2014, 6:16 AM
The obvious choice for Spider-Man would be Hayden Christensen.
MrCBM56
MrCBM56 - 12/13/2014, 6:53 AM
Welcome back @beto
NightWatcher
NightWatcher - 12/13/2014, 7:05 AM
Great Write-up @BatManHeisenberg!

dapug88
dapug88 - 12/13/2014, 7:24 AM
Marvel will never get spiffy back unless Sony has no other choice but to sell him back cause they need money. Sony will not relinquish creative control over to marvel. Which is dumb in its own right because all Sony should care about is the money and as long as they get some merch money and money on the back end of the films. Anyways here's to hoping this all works out and spidey comes home.
Baka
Baka - 12/13/2014, 7:48 AM
Very good write up @BatmanHeisenberg
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I'd just go with option #2 and do it in a TiH style introduction.
Baka
Baka - 12/13/2014, 7:50 AM
Very good write up @BatmanHeisenberg
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I'd just go with option #2 and do it in a TiH style introduction.
MsDarkPhoenix
MsDarkPhoenix - 12/13/2014, 7:50 AM
Peeta Parker

tokens
tokens - 12/13/2014, 8:19 AM
this is how is oughtta be done.
With No F*cks given.
jus have him swing in like:
"Hey guys!, am I too late to join the party?
I got stuck in times square!"

n then have cap like "Spiderman, You Cheeky Son Of A Bitch!
Get o'er here n help us take down thanos!"

BOOM.
Odin
Odin - 12/13/2014, 8:38 AM
Good editioral, I would love to see Logan Lerman as Peter Parker. Taking full advange from MCU, we could see symbiote origin in background of Guardians of the Galaxy 2, Ravagers-pot with symbiote inside could land earth in Spiderman solo film.
BatmanHeisenberg
BatmanHeisenberg - 12/13/2014, 8:50 AM
@MightZeus

Fari, but it would only be a mineseries, and it would be watched but not by everyone.

@Jaffi

Well thank you! As for Logan, I loved him(and Erza Miller!) in Perks of Being a Wallflower, so I think he could do the role justice.

@DrKingsolvin

I actually agree about TASM stuff, I prefer my reboot MCU option! I do agree that Logan will be great, but I haven't seen Fury, it was Perks that sold me.

@nilzz

I could actually live with that choice as well.

@beto



@RedNTheHood

I'd be open to that idea! I like it!

@MrNiklander

I think he shouldn't have a movie until after both Infinity War.

@jCamer0n

I loved Garfield's spidey, not his Peter so much. I think Johnson would have been a good choice as well.

@TheAbaryMan369



@MrSotoMan

Dude, whenever you comment, I feel like my IQ goes up a few points. Jesus dude, keep it up! As for your comments, I think they should explore new characters as well.

@NightWatcher

Hey thanks man! Expect 2-3 more this weekend!

@dapug88

Well Sony is in a shit position right now, so a graceful hand from Marvel might convince them otherwise.

@Ruhail

I think TIH type of origin for Spidey would be pretty awesome.

@MsDarkPhoenix

Josh could be great as Spidey. I actually have an upcoming editorial about a Hunger Games costar taking the main lead in a DC property. Stay tuned!

@cinnamon

Okay then.

@Odin

Now THAT is an awesome idea!
SauronsBANE
SauronsBANE - 12/13/2014, 9:10 AM
Great read!

Just to put into perspective how crazy this whole Sony hack has been...who would've thought that by December, we'd be getting editorials about the possibility of Spider-Man in the MCU...with a picture of Kim Jong-un at the very top?? Haha
captain74
captain74 - 12/13/2014, 9:13 AM
I agree with totally ditching the Goblin stuff and avoiding any type of origin crap. Have him appear in Civil War and Infinity War. Then starting in Phase 4 a trilogy centering around the symbiote suit with Kraven being the villain in the first movie, then Venom in the second and Carnage in the third where both Spidey and Venom are needed to take Carnage out.
BatmanHeisenberg
BatmanHeisenberg - 12/13/2014, 9:16 AM
@SauronsBANE

If I was someone from '12 and I transported to today and saw that I would be [frick]ing baffled. I'm glad you liked it, more to come today and tommorow!

@captain74

That is a neat idea! I do prefer a Dark Reign type of thing, though.
BatmanHeisenberg
BatmanHeisenberg - 12/13/2014, 9:18 AM
@Scorpion8125

You know, another possible solution is keep the ASM continiuty in the MCU but kill Peter off by the first solo movie and introduce Miles Morales. I think it would be a cool departure and give fans the best of both worlds. I know your comment is meant to be trolling, but it gave me an idea, so thank you. I do prefer Logan, though.
BatmanHeisenberg
BatmanHeisenberg - 12/13/2014, 9:19 AM
@AlexanderLykins

I agree with the casting but I'd prefer an unused villain or Dark Reign.
ScarletWarlock
ScarletWarlock - 12/13/2014, 9:32 AM
If Marvel gets him in Civil War they should establish that he already has many villains, and has been active for many years, that way they cover a lot of Spider-Man lore(for example: Gwen's death, George Stacy's death, maybe clone saga, sinister six already occurred, already fought Green Goblin BUT doesn't know his identity yet, and maybe introduce HobGoblin in some capacity). The point is this could be a very comic accurate Spider-Man. How many of you guys would love to see the original Goblin costume in the MCU, its a no-brainer for me. Another perk of showing him late in his game is that you can re-use all his villains in previous movies but not treat them as super big deals ex. sandman, electro, rhino. I mean, having a minor villain of spidey be the MAIN villain just wastes screen time when you could be focusing on his bigger foes. I think they will go somewhat along the line of what I'm saying, plus marvel generally makes good decision in terms of the lore, so we'll see.
ThedamnBatman
ThedamnBatman - 12/13/2014, 9:38 AM
Great article, yeah even before Fury, I think Logan Lerman was really great in Gamer. and Perks of Being A Wallflower really sold me on the awkward, good guy Peter side. Dude can really nail it if given the chance
Reasonnnn
Reasonnnn - 12/13/2014, 10:41 AM
I think I would want Marvel to use Venom as the first villain since their "first" films usually deals with the counterpart (Iron Man/Monger, hulk/abom, cap/skull)

Also love the Logan Lernan as Peter Parker. He really nails that reserved passive personality pre-Spidey (Fury, Perks of Being a Wallflower) and he's in the right Age
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