SPIDER-MAN: BEYOND THE SPIDER-VERSE's Chris Miller Comments On Possible AI Usage In Animated Threequel

SPIDER-MAN: BEYOND THE SPIDER-VERSE's Chris Miller Comments On Possible AI Usage In Animated Threequel

With Artificial Intelligence now a tool being utilised by many movie studios, Spider-Man: Beyond the Spider-Verse executive producer Christopher MIller has vowed to keep it out of the wall-crawler's world.

By JoshWilding - Jun 02, 2024 01:06 PM EST
Filed Under: Into The Spider-Verse
Source: Toonado.com

Sony Pictures boss Tony Vinciquerrara recently revealed the studio's plans to increase the usage of AI in movies and TV shows. He believes it will help them produce those in "more efficient ways," but it's ultimately little more than a way to save money. 

Last year, DreamWorks founder Jeffrey Katzenberg suggested AI has the potential to cut the costs of making an animated movie by as much as 90%, with only 50 artists needed to create them in place of 500. While that's an exciting prospect for studio bosses, it's left film fans concerned. 

Spider-Man: Beyond the Spider-Verse is currently undated due to what a long time the web-slinger's groundbreaking movies take to create. Now, producer/writer Christopher Miller has promised fans AI will not be used on his watch.

"There is no generative AI in Beyond the Spider-Verse and there never will be," he stated (via Toonado.com). "One of the main goals of the films is to create new visual styles that have never been seen in a studio CG film, not steal the generic plagiarized average of other artists' work."

It's clear that, if studios like Sony do intend to increase AI usage, they'll lose many of the filmmakers who make truly great stories for the screen. 

Last year's Spider-Man: Across the Spider-Verse made just shy of $700 million at the worldwide box office and was a critical hit. Its predecessor, 2018's Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse, won the "Best Animated Feature" Oscar. 

"What I can tell you about Beyond the Spider-Verse is that it's gonna be better than Into and Across the Spider-Verse, and that I will be in it. That's all I can tell you," Miles Morales actor Shameik Moore previously said of the threequel. "The second movie is taking us to the third movie."

"Action...you can expect Miles and Gwen. You can expect everything [laughs] you're expecting the continuation from the second one," Moore teased. "You can expect to see The Spot; you can expect some action-packed energy and some dilemmas and problems to solve."

As noted, Spider-Man: Beyond the Spider-Verse still doesn't have a confirmed release date. Hopefully, an announcement will be made soon.

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ObserverIO - 6/2/2024, 1:10 PM
Thank [frick] for that.

Sony talking about using AI in their future Spidey projects had me worried.
The writers strike ended too soon. They compromised.

They agreed to only use AI if they want to. So basically the studio only has to hire those that want to. Andf the studio can use it to develop movies before they hire writers and then give them the AI generated stuff to work on.

AI will kill art.
ObserverIO - 6/2/2024, 1:11 PM
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Blergh - 6/2/2024, 1:18 PM
@ObserverIO - I’ve seen so many badly written scripts using AI lately that I’m not scared yet. The writers of these couldn’t even clean up the scripts enough to make it seem original. If they’re written using Chat GPT they’re usually always samey.

What I’m really scared is what will come in the future. Properly written scripts based on statistics, complete CG shots using Sora only using a composite. On one hand it’s fascinating on the other there will be tons of jobs lost in the process
Alucard28 - 6/2/2024, 1:20 PM
@ObserverIO - AI will not kill art because creating art is fun. People won't stop doing it.
Apophis71 - 6/2/2024, 2:42 PM
@ObserverIO - Trouble is a lot confuse/conflate AI tools with generative AI, so saying using more AI may just be in regard to advances in software that lets creatives create more faster (but still entirely human driven) and NOT have puters generate content on their own with minimal prompts and pre-existing data sets.

No way any modern animation doesn't use some AI tools to help create the product cos gone are the days where every cell is hand drawn, lol. Thus how each uses terms will differ depending on understanding of the differences in terminologies and their real world applications.
dragon316 - 6/2/2024, 1:13 PM
Let animation be better parts of animation was good and bad
JFerguson - 6/2/2024, 5:15 PM
@dragon316 - Pixar movies are the lowest pick of the crop these days. These spideyverse movies are a godsend compared to them
Alucard28 - 6/2/2024, 1:15 PM
AI art really sucks. I don't think it will kill art but I believe many people are using it as a tool for not developing skills, specially fun skills. Also, cheap persons use it to generate mediocre plagiarized illustrations, logos etc for not paying professionals.

Some of us still love the intent of true artists and musicians. AI still lacks of intent and sense of aesthetic and true artistry.

AI generated can be useful for SOME stuff tho.
Itwasme - 6/2/2024, 1:33 PM
@Alucard28 - they said the same thing about the electric guitar.

Just saying...
ObserverIO - 6/2/2024, 1:42 PM
@Alucard28 - I guess the inauthentic AI stuff will be the mass-produced stuff like Godzilla x Kong that people who don't really care about the artistic side of things will lap up because it's big monsters fighting each other and then the true art that people do out of fun and creative passion will be self-funded and have limited distribution and people who like good shit will have to seek it out where they can.

So... same as it ever was, I guess, lol.
Alucard28 - 6/2/2024, 2:09 PM
@Itwasme - As a musician I never heard anything negative about the electric guitar. Maybe people from the school of Segovia did that, and many classical musicians still have a very purist thinking but electric guitar still needs an artist in order to play it well. The first true electric guitar soloist was Charlie Christian and he laid the fundation for jazz and blues music and he was respected by musicians back then. When you REALLY play other artists will respect what you do, no matter what TOOL you use.

AI just regurgitates art
Itwasme - 6/2/2024, 2:42 PM
@Alucard28 - when it first came out they said that. They said that with auto tune and so on. They said it when graphic desig started to become a thing, but traditional painting never went away.
Evansly - 6/2/2024, 1:20 PM
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I appreciate the comments on wanting to create something their own
DocSpock - 6/2/2024, 1:21 PM
@Evansly -

Glover is an overrated clown.
Evansly - 6/2/2024, 1:23 PM
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ANewPope - 6/2/2024, 3:08 PM
@DocSpock - Meanwhile you're just a general clown.
DocSpock - 6/2/2024, 1:21 PM

As I understand it, animation fans love this. It dominates the animation genre

Holland Spider-Man is now the very biggest earner for the MCU. He dominates the movie superhero genre now.

Keep miles in the animated stuff. Enjoy dominating both movie forms Disney. Don't dilute things and ram morales into the live action universe just for the superhero animation lovers and the DEI crowd.

EskimoJ - 6/2/2024, 1:39 PM
@DocSpock - How is Marvel dominating animation when everything Spider-Verse is strictly Sony?

And how would depicting a character in live-action whose already proven to be popular in print and animation be DEI whatsoever aside from it being the dog whistle used by your ilk?
cubrn - 6/2/2024, 7:35 PM
@EskimoJ - The Fox News chat bot is malfunctioning
AvalonX - 6/2/2024, 1:26 PM
Im not sold. If Tony Vinciquerrara said they are going to use it, who cares what the producer says. The point isnt just plagerizing. That horse left the barn because of all these social sites like meta allowing the scraping of images. So Sony might not specifically steal someone elses work but that doesn't mean the model hasn't already learned from it.

The other thing is the Dreamworks quote, how many jobs did Sony cut? Where is this savings coming from because 90% time the savings is people.
Itwasme - 6/2/2024, 1:32 PM
It's inevitable. BO struggles are going to require studios to cut costs and this is a no-brainer for how to do it. It doesn't mean there won't still be people in the loop and massive staff, but just like how CGI changed the VFX, ai, will change all aspects of filmmaking.
ObserverIO - 6/2/2024, 1:47 PM
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Itwasme - 6/2/2024, 2:44 PM
@ObserverIO - just because graphic design is around, doesn't mean the pai time has gone away. This is all part of the pattern of innovation.
clintthahamster - 6/3/2024, 9:36 AM
@Itwasme - "BO struggles are going to require studios to cut costs and this is a no-brainer for how to do it."

We could also return to an era when most movies had budgets under $100M. Looking at the top 10 films of 1972, only one had a budget north of $100M in 2024 dollars. Of the top 10 in 2024, only three were even close to $100M.
Itwasme - 6/3/2024, 9:56 AM
@clintthahamster - 70's were a golden era of films. Dog Day Afternoon is still one of the all time great films IMO.
clintthahamster - 6/3/2024, 10:04 AM
@Itwasme - Indeed. The end of the Hayes Code and the Studio System, and the birth of the auteur era. There's a great documentary about that time period, if you haven't seen it . . .

Itwasme - 6/3/2024, 10:38 AM
@clintthahamster - nice! I'll check it out. Thanks!
cadunovaes01 - 6/2/2024, 1:33 PM
AI is here to change the things (in good and bad ways, unfortunately)
lazlodaytona - 6/2/2024, 1:34 PM
Using A.I. for everything?

Has no one on the planet ever seen a Terminator movie?!?
Nightwing1015 - 6/2/2024, 4:04 PM
@lazlodaytona - Terminator gave AI control of nukes and weaponry, not filmmaking
lazlodaytona - 6/2/2024, 8:32 PM
@Nightwing1015 - hello Mr. "I don't get sarcasm."
Nightwing1015 - 6/2/2024, 10:33 PM
@lazlodaytona - Hard to tell seeing as I've seen so many serious comments that actually think all this AI stuff is gonna lead to Skynet in a couple years...
lazlodaytona - 6/3/2024, 4:52 AM
@Nightwing1015 - strictly kidding
harryba11zack - 6/2/2024, 1:44 PM
AI is here to stay, so we best just deal with it. learn to prompt.
KaptainKhaos - 6/2/2024, 1:57 PM
There's a comic artist named Will Jack who's style stolen and used as training for Ai, it's happening to others as well.

Some don't care because it doesn't affect them, but once Ai comes for their jobs it will be too late
marvel72 - 6/2/2024, 2:02 PM
AI gonna take a lot of jobs.
Alucard28 - 6/2/2024, 5:22 PM
@marvel72 - it can take all jobs apparently. Even from doctors.
marvel72 - 6/2/2024, 5:24 PM
@Alucard28 - Scary thought really, maybe none of us will work again.
Alucard28 - 6/2/2024, 5:34 PM
@marvel72 - maybe it's the beginning of an Star Trek like utopía? We'll see.
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