RUMOR: SPIDER-MAN 4's Title May Have Been Revealed (And It's Positively Venomous)

RUMOR: SPIDER-MAN 4's Title May Have Been Revealed (And It's Positively Venomous)

While we're taking this with a pinch of salt, one scooper claims to have revealed the title of Spider-Man 4 and you'd best believe it ties into those recent Venom rumours. Find more details here...

By JoshWilding - Oct 02, 2024 10:10 AM EST
Filed Under: Spider-Man

Tom Holland's Peter Parker made his MCU debut in 2016's Captain America: Civil War and, the following year, took centre stage in Spider-Man: Homecoming

It was a fitting title for the movie seeing as the web-slinger had finally come "home" and Marvel Studios and Sony Pictures kept the theme going with 2019's Spider-Man: Far From Home (which was referencing the fact Spidey travelled overseas to battle Mysterio's illusions). 

Finally, there was 2021's Spider-Man: No Way Home, a movie that left several familiar Variants stranded on Earth-616. Now, as we head into a new trilogy of Spider-Man movies, it appears the idea is to move on from the "Home" theme.

It makes sense given filmmaker Jon Watts' departure; Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings director Destin Daniel Cretton is taking over and, if recent rumours are to be believed, the idea is for Spider-Man to embark on another Multiversal adventure...alongside Venom!

According to reliable scooper Cryptic HD Quality on X, "Take this with a grain of salt, but I’ve heard the next Spider-Man movie might be titled Spider-Man: King in Black."

Spider-Man: King in Black? That has a nice ring to it. It also confirms that the hero will battle Knull, God of the Symbiotes, and where he goes, Tom Hardy's Venom surely won't be far behind. 

Nothing is official right now but if Venom: The Last Dance doesn't set the stage for a meeting with Spider-Man two years from now, several scoopers will be left with egg on their faces and a lot of explaining to do.

"The simple answer is that I’ll always want to do Spider-Man films," Holland told Deadline earlier this year when asked about a fourth chapter. "I owe my life and career to Spider-Man. So the simple answer is yes. I’ll always want to do more."

However, he'd go on to say that the more "complicated answer" is making sure the fourth instalment lives up to its predecessors. 

"We have the best in the business working toward whatever the story might be. But until we’ve cracked it, we have a legacy to protect," Holland explained. "The third movie was so special in so many ways that we need to make sure we do the right thing."

"This is the first time in this process that I’ve been part of the creative so early. It’s just a process where I’m watching and learning. It’s just a really fun stage for me," he added. "Like I said, everyone wants it to happen. But we want to make sure we’re not overdoing the same things."

As noted, Destin Daniel Cretton will direct Spider-Man 4, while Spider-Man: No Way Home scribes Chris McKenna and Erik Sommers are returning to write the script. 

A release date for the movie has not been announced, though we expect it to swing into theaters on July 24, 2026.

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harryba11zack
harryba11zack - 10/2/2024, 10:37 AM
miles confirmed?
Malatrova15
Malatrova15 - 10/2/2024, 10:53 AM
@harryba11zack - not my spiderman
marvel72
marvel72 - 10/2/2024, 12:53 PM
@Malatrova15 -

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Clintthahamster
Clintthahamster - 10/2/2024, 10:38 AM
"SPIDER-MAN 4's Title May Have Been Revealed"

Ron Howard voice: It hasn't.
ProfessorWhy
ProfessorWhy - 10/2/2024, 10:42 AM
@Clintthahamster - Michael!
bobevanz
bobevanz - 10/2/2024, 11:02 AM
@Clintthahamster - "I've made a huge mistake"
ProfessorWhy
ProfessorWhy - 10/2/2024, 10:42 AM
I thought it'd be a Sentry team up called " Knull & Void "
Clintthahamster
Clintthahamster - 10/2/2024, 11:16 AM
@ProfessorWhy - Kevin Feige, hire this man.
Urubrodi
Urubrodi - 10/2/2024, 10:43 AM
Seems too on the nose if that's indeed the storyline, but it's not bad.
WhatIfRickJames
WhatIfRickJames - 10/2/2024, 10:48 AM
No [frick]ing way is it that
WruceBayne
WruceBayne - 10/2/2024, 12:20 PM
@WhatIfRickJames - that is a horrible title.
PC04
PC04 - 10/2/2024, 10:48 AM
Spiderman: BLACKED
IronDean2099
IronDean2099 - 10/2/2024, 11:43 AM
@PC04 - 😬
Oberlin4Prez
Oberlin4Prez - 10/2/2024, 11:51 AM
@PC04 - I literally loled
WhatIfRickJames
WhatIfRickJames - 10/2/2024, 10:52 AM
Spider-Man: Home in Black is more like it
ProfessorWhy
ProfessorWhy - 10/2/2024, 11:02 AM
@WhatIfRickJames - coming black home
FireandBlood
FireandBlood - 10/2/2024, 10:55 AM
Remember the last time Sony forced symbiotes into a Spider-Man movie?
NonPlayerC
NonPlayerC - 10/2/2024, 11:07 AM
@FireandBlood - it could have been much better if they just did a full movie with Peter finding the symbiot in the beginning, going the entire movie with the suit, Eddie Brock his photographer rival where he keeps losing out on shots to Peter, but still just a supporting character. Spidey almost kills the villain he’s fighting at the very end of the movie and rips the suit off. Next movie is a true venom villain.

It was just too rushed. Need to show the slow addiction of the suit, infatuation with the extra power, and definitely not having a giant talking head or any speech from the symbiotic really.

If they did a straight recreation from Spider-Man the animated series where he saves the space shuttle coming in on reentry where they were collecting samples for the first scene would be awesome
Slotherin
Slotherin - 10/2/2024, 11:18 AM
@NonPlayerC - honestly I'm not convinced that even with all that prior set up that Venom actually is much good for carrying a film.
It pains me to say what we got in 3 was probably the best we'd get as far as plot beats and for that version.
Slotherin
Slotherin - 10/2/2024, 11:19 AM
@NonPlayerC - isn't much good*
NonPlayerC
NonPlayerC - 10/2/2024, 11:36 AM
@Slotherin - if they actually set Eddie Brock up right it could work. 1st movie he’s there losing out to Peter, Peter become a bit cocky, Jonah fires Brock towards the end, he blames Peter. It was so bad in 3 because one they severely miscast Eddie Brock, 2 it was too rushed. They had Peter get the suit and by midpoint he had already dropped the suit, venom was out on the loose along with sandman and Harry’s goblin. There was just too much stuffed in there to flesh any character out
Slotherin
Slotherin - 10/2/2024, 12:05 PM
@NonPlayerC - there was too much going on for sure though it all thankfully tied together at the end.
I was fine with Grace as Eddie;not having better material really wasn't his fault.
bkmeijer1
bkmeijer1 - 10/2/2024, 10:58 AM
I'm thinking they'll go with another word they can structure titles around like they did with ''Home''. No idea what it could be though, maybe ''Spectacular''?
StSteven
StSteven - 10/2/2024, 12:48 PM
@bkmeijer1 - Yeah I totally agree. How about "web"?
StSteven
StSteven - 10/2/2024, 12:51 PM
@bkmeijer1 - Also, if they actually DO make the next movie (or trilogy) more street level (which is looking less and less likely) they could play around the words "city" or "street" or something like that.
StSteven
StSteven - 10/2/2024, 12:52 PM
@bkmeijer1 - Like "Spider-Man: The City Never Sleeps" or something along those lines.
NonPlayerC
NonPlayerC - 10/2/2024, 11:01 AM
I feel like Sony is twisting marvels wrist at this point trying to get Tom Hardy’s venom to work with marvel. I haven’t really liked any of the venom movies and firmly believe he’s at his best as an actual spidey villain. They should do a movie without hardy let peter get the black suit, do a true black suit movie, he realizes the symbiot is making him more agressive at the very end when he beats the villain (scorpion, hobb goblin, green goblin, anyone) and the next movie have a true Eddie Brock venom villain. Vicious murderous, an agile powerhouse. I just don’t like how every popular villain has to become a hero. I get it can play a good arc but this is just backwards. Over the multiverse and time travel stuff already, just no real repercussions. That said I clearly never really got into the anti hero venom comics or the flash venom comics so maybe this appeals to fans of that
SATW42
SATW42 - 10/2/2024, 11:02 AM
they are actively making me not exicted for a spider-man movie, and that's [frick]ing something. This is not a resse's pieces situation with people getting peanut butter in my chocolate. Keep your sony out of my marvel.
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 10/2/2024, 11:32 AM
@SATW42 - yeah

This would be a completely rock bottom to my hype if true (especially since I was so excited after NWH).
TheFinestSmack
TheFinestSmack - 10/2/2024, 12:17 PM
@SATW42 - exactly. I wasn't hype for the last one, but i eventually watched it and thought it was at least decent. This concept for the next one is something I have zero interest in. This Spidey has been to space and messed around with the multiverse already. FFS, just give us a street level story.
SATW42
SATW42 - 10/2/2024, 12:38 PM
@TheFinestSmack - yeah, and I realize Tobey and Andrew and their villains are sony and I had no issue with that, so I guess it's really the currect sony spidey universe I take exception with. And our Spiderman teaming up with venom against a huge threat like Knull makes ZERO sense with how no way home left off. ZEEEEEEROOOOO
bobevanz
bobevanz - 10/2/2024, 11:03 AM
I'd laugh if all these Twitter accounts are the same person. Throw enough shit at the wall and eventually something sticks
grif
grif - 10/2/2024, 11:03 AM
needs the word home in it. how about spiderman and the homie king
slickrickdesigns
slickrickdesigns - 10/2/2024, 11:15 AM
@grif - Spider-Man: Home in Black
EducatedDefense
EducatedDefense - 10/2/2024, 11:05 AM
“ Spider-Man: King in Black? That has a nice ring to it.”
It doesn’t. At all. But I’m not concerned, because there is literally no chance in hell that is the title. Because it’s THAT bad. Could it be the project code name? Yes. Title? No.
QuietMagician
QuietMagician - 10/2/2024, 11:08 AM
“ Nothing is official right now but if Venom: The Last Dance doesn't set the stage for a meeting with Spider-Man two years from now, several scoopers will be left with egg on their faces and a lot of explaining to do.”

yeah, you’ve got a strong track record of holding scoopers accountable. btw what’s the ETA on the next MTTSH article?
JoshWilding
JoshWilding - 10/2/2024, 11:31 AM
@QuietMagician - In the past week, MTTSH's Supergirl and Lanterns scoops were confirmed by the trades, so probably a good chance we'll keep covering their rumours.
SheepishOne
SheepishOne - 10/2/2024, 11:12 AM
I’m confirming that’s not the title.
Pampero
Pampero - 10/2/2024, 11:12 AM
SPIDERMAN: WEB OF SHADOWS sounds better
slickrickdesigns
slickrickdesigns - 10/2/2024, 11:13 AM
Sooo they steel a Venom title for Spiderman 4?? Doesn’t sound right to me.
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