RUMOR: SPIDER-MAN 4's Title May Have Been Revealed (And It's Positively Venomous)

RUMOR: SPIDER-MAN 4's Title May Have Been Revealed (And It's Positively Venomous)

While we're taking this with a pinch of salt, one scooper claims to have revealed the title of Spider-Man 4 and you'd best believe it ties into those recent Venom rumours. Find more details here...

By JoshWilding - Oct 02, 2024 10:10 AM EST
Filed Under: Spider-Man

Tom Holland's Peter Parker made his MCU debut in 2016's Captain America: Civil War and, the following year, took centre stage in Spider-Man: Homecoming

It was a fitting title for the movie seeing as the web-slinger had finally come "home" and Marvel Studios and Sony Pictures kept the theme going with 2019's Spider-Man: Far From Home (which was referencing the fact Spidey travelled overseas to battle Mysterio's illusions). 

Finally, there was 2021's Spider-Man: No Way Home, a movie that left several familiar Variants stranded on Earth-616. Now, as we head into a new trilogy of Spider-Man movies, it appears the idea is to move on from the "Home" theme.

It makes sense given filmmaker Jon Watts' departure; Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings director Destin Daniel Cretton is taking over and, if recent rumours are to be believed, the idea is for Spider-Man to embark on another Multiversal adventure...alongside Venom!

According to reliable scooper Cryptic HD Quality on X, "Take this with a grain of salt, but I’ve heard the next Spider-Man movie might be titled Spider-Man: King in Black."

Spider-Man: King in Black? That has a nice ring to it. It also confirms that the hero will battle Knull, God of the Symbiotes, and where he goes, Tom Hardy's Venom surely won't be far behind. 

Nothing is official right now but if Venom: The Last Dance doesn't set the stage for a meeting with Spider-Man two years from now, several scoopers will be left with egg on their faces and a lot of explaining to do.

"The simple answer is that I’ll always want to do Spider-Man films," Holland told Deadline earlier this year when asked about a fourth chapter. "I owe my life and career to Spider-Man. So the simple answer is yes. I’ll always want to do more."

However, he'd go on to say that the more "complicated answer" is making sure the fourth instalment lives up to its predecessors. 

"We have the best in the business working toward whatever the story might be. But until we’ve cracked it, we have a legacy to protect," Holland explained. "The third movie was so special in so many ways that we need to make sure we do the right thing."

"This is the first time in this process that I’ve been part of the creative so early. It’s just a process where I’m watching and learning. It’s just a really fun stage for me," he added. "Like I said, everyone wants it to happen. But we want to make sure we’re not overdoing the same things."

As noted, Destin Daniel Cretton will direct Spider-Man 4, while Spider-Man: No Way Home scribes Chris McKenna and Erik Sommers are returning to write the script. 

A release date for the movie has not been announced, though we expect it to swing into theaters on July 24, 2026.

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harryba11zack
harryba11zack - 10/2/2024, 10:37 AM
miles confirmed?
Malatrova15
Malatrova15 - 10/2/2024, 10:53 AM
@harryba11zack - not my spiderman
marvel72
marvel72 - 10/2/2024, 12:53 PM
@Malatrova15 -

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Clintthahamster
Clintthahamster - 10/2/2024, 10:38 AM
"SPIDER-MAN 4's Title May Have Been Revealed"

Ron Howard voice: It hasn't.
ProfessorWhy
ProfessorWhy - 10/2/2024, 10:42 AM
@Clintthahamster - Michael!
bobevanz
bobevanz - 10/2/2024, 11:02 AM
@Clintthahamster - "I've made a huge mistake"
TiberiousOmega
TiberiousOmega - 10/2/2024, 4:55 PM
@Clintthahamster - “I blue myself”.
ProfessorWhy
ProfessorWhy - 10/2/2024, 10:42 AM
I thought it'd be a Sentry team up called " Knull & Void "
Clintthahamster
Clintthahamster - 10/2/2024, 11:16 AM
@ProfessorWhy - Kevin Feige, hire this man.
Urubrodi
Urubrodi - 10/2/2024, 10:43 AM
Seems too on the nose if that's indeed the storyline, but it's not bad.
WhatIfRickJames
WhatIfRickJames - 10/2/2024, 10:48 AM
No [frick]ing way is it that
WruceBayne
WruceBayne - 10/2/2024, 12:20 PM
@WhatIfRickJames - that is a horrible title.
PC04
PC04 - 10/2/2024, 10:48 AM
Spiderman: BLACKED
IronDean2099
IronDean2099 - 10/2/2024, 11:43 AM
@PC04 - 😬
Oberlin4Prez
Oberlin4Prez - 10/2/2024, 11:51 AM
@PC04 - I literally loled
Fogs
Fogs - 10/2/2024, 1:45 PM
@PC04 - hahahha holy shit
WhatIfRickJames
WhatIfRickJames - 10/2/2024, 10:52 AM
Spider-Man: Home in Black is more like it
ProfessorWhy
ProfessorWhy - 10/2/2024, 11:02 AM
@WhatIfRickJames - coming black home
Nolanite
Nolanite - 10/2/2024, 8:04 PM
@ProfessorWhy - Cuming and Cuming
FireandBlood
FireandBlood - 10/2/2024, 10:55 AM
Remember the last time Sony forced symbiotes into a Spider-Man movie?
NonPlayerC
NonPlayerC - 10/2/2024, 11:07 AM
@FireandBlood - it could have been much better if they just did a full movie with Peter finding the symbiot in the beginning, going the entire movie with the suit, Eddie Brock his photographer rival where he keeps losing out on shots to Peter, but still just a supporting character. Spidey almost kills the villain he’s fighting at the very end of the movie and rips the suit off. Next movie is a true venom villain.

It was just too rushed. Need to show the slow addiction of the suit, infatuation with the extra power, and definitely not having a giant talking head or any speech from the symbiotic really.

If they did a straight recreation from Spider-Man the animated series where he saves the space shuttle coming in on reentry where they were collecting samples for the first scene would be awesome
Slotherin
Slotherin - 10/2/2024, 11:18 AM
@NonPlayerC - honestly I'm not convinced that even with all that prior set up that Venom actually is much good for carrying a film.
It pains me to say what we got in 3 was probably the best we'd get as far as plot beats and for that version.
Slotherin
Slotherin - 10/2/2024, 11:19 AM
@NonPlayerC - isn't much good*
NonPlayerC
NonPlayerC - 10/2/2024, 11:36 AM
@Slotherin - if they actually set Eddie Brock up right it could work. 1st movie he’s there losing out to Peter, Peter become a bit cocky, Jonah fires Brock towards the end, he blames Peter. It was so bad in 3 because one they severely miscast Eddie Brock, 2 it was too rushed. They had Peter get the suit and by midpoint he had already dropped the suit, venom was out on the loose along with sandman and Harry’s goblin. There was just too much stuffed in there to flesh any character out
Slotherin
Slotherin - 10/2/2024, 12:05 PM
@NonPlayerC - there was too much going on for sure though it all thankfully tied together at the end.
I was fine with Grace as Eddie;not having better material really wasn't his fault.
bkmeijer1
bkmeijer1 - 10/2/2024, 10:58 AM
I'm thinking they'll go with another word they can structure titles around like they did with ''Home''. No idea what it could be though, maybe ''Spectacular''?
StSteven
StSteven - 10/2/2024, 12:48 PM
@bkmeijer1 - Yeah I totally agree. How about "web"?
StSteven
StSteven - 10/2/2024, 12:51 PM
@bkmeijer1 - Also, if they actually DO make the next movie (or trilogy) more street level (which is looking less and less likely) they could play around the words "city" or "street" or something like that.
StSteven
StSteven - 10/2/2024, 12:52 PM
@bkmeijer1 - Like "Spider-Man: The City Never Sleeps" or something along those lines.
bkmeijer1
bkmeijer1 - 10/2/2024, 2:29 PM
@StSteven - I could see both Web and City work. Think the latter is more specific, so I'm leaning towards that
StSteven
StSteven - 10/2/2024, 7:22 PM
@bkmeijer1 - Yeah, I could see them using something like "web" if the next one ends up being multiversal and something like "city" if it's more street level (fingers crossed that it's the latter).
bkmeijer1
bkmeijer1 - 10/3/2024, 2:13 AM
@StSteven - timing-wise Multiverse makes more sense if it's released between Doomsday and Secret Wars. They could set it on Battleworld.

That said, I hope we get street-level first. Maybe Spider-Man 4 (released in 2026) leads right into Doomsday, and 5 (released in 2028) leads right into Secret Wars.

They can be released after those movies with the justification it would spoil them otherwise (like AMatW and Infinity War).
StSteven
StSteven - 10/3/2024, 6:15 PM
@bkmeijer1 - Yeah, I think that it would be awesome if they were able to somehow follow your timing. I'm pretty sure that the reports about Sony wanting the next Spidey movie to be multiversal (which is hard to fault them for given the success of "NWH") and Feige wanting street level, so what you proposed seems like a reasonable compromise. Plus it makes sense from a narrative standpoint given where we left off with the ending on "NWH" and heading into "A:DD" and "A:SW".

Plus it makes sense narratively that following "NWH" we see a Peter that is more angry and alone taking out his anger on street level criminals, so that leading into "A:DD" we see him become more aggressive and confident, which would support the rumors that he is more of a lead character in "A:DD" and "A:SW". Then by the time he gets the symbiote it's attracted to his negative emotions and really takes him down the dark path for "SM 6" after "A:SW".

I just don't know if they have to time to make it all work out like that, but I think that it would be a pretty awesome story arc for him if they can make it work.
bkmeijer1
bkmeijer1 - 10/4/2024, 1:27 AM
@StSteven - I think they can make it work kinda like that. Atleast I hope so, because you explain pretty well why this is the route to go
StSteven
StSteven - 10/4/2024, 6:10 PM
@bkmeijer1 - Also, I was going to mention in my previous comment that as Peter is growing more angry and alone (I TOTALLY expect him to be hanging around watching MJ and Ned from the shadows when they come back from MIT during the breaks), and therefore more aggressive and "no longer pulling his punches" when going after street level criminals and gangsters (sound familiar?) that maybe it's Garfield's SM who helps Peter to overcome that anger at some point (or at least tries to counsel him), as he's been down that dark road, and maybe that happens in "A:SW" when Grafield's SM sees the road that Peter is heading down.

That would be a great callback to the "Amazing SM" movies and "NWH", and once again serve as one of the older SMs acting as a "big brother" to Peter, like Tobey did in "NWH".
bkmeijer1
bkmeijer1 - 10/5/2024, 3:42 AM
@StSteven - that would be a great character moment. Both previous Spider-Men stoppped pulling punches, so could be an interesting conversation
StSteven
StSteven - 10/5/2024, 9:16 PM
@bkmeijer1 - Yeah, it could show further connective tissue between SM variants, along the same lines of the "With great power..." thing and their Uncle Ben/Aunt May dying. Plus, Tobey's had to deal with the symbiote and the darkness and power that comes with it, and it's possible that Garfield may end up doing the same at some point, given the current rumors of his return as SM. So we'll see. Overall I think it's cool seeing how the 3 different SMs end up inevitably dealing with the same major issues in their own way.
bkmeijer1
bkmeijer1 - 10/6/2024, 3:29 AM
@StSteven - guess Across the Spider-Verse was onto something with all Spider-Men sharing canon events.
StSteven
StSteven - 10/6/2024, 1:45 PM
@bkmeijer1 - Well it makes sense, as these are the things that tend to define Spidey in general as his story has developed over the years. Sure they can vary as to the "who" and the "when", but the core beats are still there. Now we just have to work that Clone Saga in there somewhere, am I right? Huh? Hey, where ya going? 😉
bkmeijer1
bkmeijer1 - 10/7/2024, 2:12 AM
@StSteven - I wouldn't mind it if they make an Amazing Spider-Man 3 and make that the Clone Saga. Think it fits with that universe
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