SPIDER-MAN 4: Move Over, Venom - Six Sinister Villains We'd Rather To See In The MCU Movie

SPIDER-MAN 4: Move Over, Venom - Six Sinister Villains We'd Rather To See In The MCU Movie

Despite rumours about Venom and Knull taking centre stage in Spider-Man 4, there are still plenty of other supervillains from the comics we'd prefer to see battle Tom Holland's web-slinger in 2026...

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By JoshWilding - Nov 14, 2024 01:11 PM EST
Filed Under: Spider-Man

Marvel Studios has gone through a lot of Spider-Man's villains very quickly. Homecoming used The Vulture and Shocker, while Far From Home put Mysterio front and centre alongside "Elementals" clearly based on the likes of Hydro-Man and Molten Man.

Then, in No Way Home, Tom Holland's web-slinger battled Variants of the Green Goblin, Doctor Octopus, Electro, Lizard, and Sandman. Where does this leave Spider-Man 4? Well, if recent rumours are to be believed, Peter Parker will team up with Venom to battle Knull, God of the Symbiotes. 

However, Spidey still has plenty of bad guys we'd like to see on screen and this feature singles out six villains we'd rather have showcased in filmmaker Destin Daniel Cretton's addition to the popular MCU franchise. We also explore the types of stories which can be told with the characters.

To check them out, all you need to do is click on the "Next"/"View List" buttons below...
 

6. Tombstone

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If Marvel Studios plans to embrace the street-level nature of Spider-Man's comic book adventures, Tombstone isn't a bad place to start. With Wilson Fisk in the Mayor's office, someone needs to step up to take charge of the streets so who better than Lonnie Lincoln?

Zeb Wells' recent Amazing Spider-Man run did a splendid job of giving Tombstone "big bad" status and Spider-Man 4 could surround him with a healthy number of superpowered criminal underlings pulled from the comics. 

Sure, he's not as big a name as the Green Goblin or Doctor Octopus, but with a strong enough story, that won't matter. Heck, you could even throw in Tombstone's old boss, Silvermane, for good measure (that's doubtful with him set for Spider-Noir, unfortunately). 
 

5. Spider-Slayers

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While we'd have liked a little more J. Jonah Jameson in Spider-Man: No Way Home, the movie still succeeded in turning him into an antagonist. Now, he can step up into full-blown villain mode similar to the Jonah seen in Spidey's earliest comic book adventures. 

Desperate to unmask the vigilante, Jonah can enlist Spencer Smythe to create an army of Spider-Slayers. Keeping things street-level, the program could even be funded by Mayor Fisk as he looks to remove another of New York's pesky vigilantes (the comic book Jonah was once Mayor as well so these two being in cahoots as he eyes that position isn't a stretch).

The thought of J.K. Simmons' grinning face chasing down Spidey in the body of one of these robots makes us giddy. A story like this can even tie into the Department of Damage Control and its acquisition of Stark Industries technology. 
 

4. Scorpion

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Sticking with JJJ for a moment, we'd also love Spider-Man 4 to finally bring Scorpion to the big screen. One of the web-slinger's most underrated baddies, he was a P.I. assigned by Jonah to uncover Spider-Man's secret identity.

When that failed, The Daily Bugle's Editor-in-Chief paid for a procedure which would make Mac Gargan powerful enough to defeat the hero in combat. However, it went wrong and Scorpion was not only trapped in his suit but became completely unhinged. 

Michael Mando played Mac in Spider-Man: Homecoming and given his criminal status, a few changes might be required. Still, we think he'd do well in the role and the stage can even be set for Scorpion to eventually become the MCU's Venom.
 

3. The Kingpin

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We've mentioned Fisk a few times here and he remains the most logical choice of villain for Spider-Man 4. However, he should only be the movie's main bad guy if Charlie Cox has a major role as Daredevil alongside Tom Holland's wall-crawler. 

Having the Kingpin of Crime rise to power in Daredevil: Born Again, only for Spidey to be the one to take him down feels like a betrayal when it comes to the Man Without Fear's arc. Yes, he and Fisk have already clashed on screen, but he needs to be there when the villain gets what's coming to him.

This is the street-level story the vast majority of fans want and Marvel Studios should give it to them (well, us). Still, with rumours swirling about the Multiverse coming into play, there's still a better choice than Tom Hardy's Venom...
 

2. Mysterio

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Spider-Man: Far From Home's big twist was undeniably clever. Sure, we all knew Mysterio would be a villain, but him posing as a Multiversal "hero" and using stolen Stark Industries tech to create his "illusions"? It was a fantastic take on the character. 

What's weird about it now is that Quentin Beck used that Multiverse story right before what we saw happen in Loki. Plus, how did he just guess that the Sacred Timeline is designated Earth-616? These are questions that a return in Spider-Man 4 can address. 

If it's revealed that Mysterio is a reality-hopping baddie - who faked his death - then Tobey Maguire and Andrew Garfield's Spider-Men can easily be added back to the mix, especially if he showed up in their worlds and similarly fooled them. Perhaps he serves Doom...
 

1. Hobgoblin

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A lot of Spider-Man: No Way Home's story took place off-screen, including the Green Goblin using Stark Industries tech acquired by the DODC to upgrade his suit and glider. With his weaponry still on Earth-616, what if someone else discovers them?

Peter Parker being haunted by a new Goblin - the Hobgoblin, in this instance - after his Aunt May's death feels like a fitting next chapter. Heck, the man beneath the mask could even discover some of Norman Osborn's video diaries (a somewhat similar approach to the comics), learning Spidey's biggest secrets in the process. 

Oh, and make no mistake about it: we absolutely do not want Ned Leeds to be the MCU's Hobgoblin. This should be Roderick Kingsley or, failing that, Jason Macendale or Phil Urich. The Ned stuff is just way too on the nose, though the character can still be incorporated somehow. 
 

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MCUKnight11
MCUKnight11 - 11/14/2024, 1:51 PM
Hobgoblin would be the next best thing if it can't be Fisk.
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KennKathleen
KennKathleen - 11/14/2024, 6:59 PM
@MCUKnight11 - Hob before Green....

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OBSCENE!!!
Malatrova15
Malatrova15 - 11/14/2024, 1:56 PM
Another list and you exclude Kang....get real bro
rychlec
rychlec - 11/14/2024, 1:59 PM
the obvious perfect choice is... STEGRON!
HashTagSwagg
HashTagSwagg - 11/14/2024, 1:59 PM
Stop confusing "we" with you in these sh1t takes
GirshwinDavies
GirshwinDavies - 11/14/2024, 3:05 PM
@HashTagSwagg - LOL I always imagine the dude sniffing the wine in your pic saying your comments.
HashTagSwagg
HashTagSwagg - 11/14/2024, 4:04 PM
@GirshwinDavies - User Comment Image
GirshwinDavies
GirshwinDavies - 11/14/2024, 6:10 PM
@HashTagSwagg - lmfaoooo
SheepishOne
SheepishOne - 11/14/2024, 2:00 PM
I would love to see MCU Peter take on an MCU Hobgoblin who found and reappropriated Norman’s equipment. Him or Mandi’s Scorpion would be a great “first” villain for this new independent Spidey to take on.

But it needs to be a 1v1. At least for one movie. Do whatever kind of wild post credits scene you want, but I think most of us want to see a true solo MCU Spidey film.
bkmeijer1
bkmeijer1 - 11/14/2024, 2:01 PM
If they ever do Hobgoblin, I'm kinda hoping it is gonna be Ned. And without any ruse. Would surprising, unlike Mysterio being framed as a hero even though we'd all see the twist coming.

As for Spider-Man 4 specifically though, I'm hoping it's gonna be Kingpin with Scorpion as his muscle (and JJJ backing them). Could always use Tombstone in a cold open for street level Spider-Man.
KennKathleen
KennKathleen - 11/14/2024, 7:03 PM
@bkmeijer1 - Combine yours and sheepish ones 💡 💡 , and I'm in!

The fact Ned turns evil is due to lack of Peter's friendship, caused by NWH... ANNND Ned finding the Green Goblin's technology is also a direct result... of NWH!!! Win/win.
bkmeijer1
bkmeijer1 - 11/15/2024, 1:22 AM
@KennKathleen - they could play it like that. Do feel there needs to be an extra catalyst for him turning evil though. Maybe an MCU Ock plays a role in it?
KennKathleen
KennKathleen - 11/15/2024, 7:35 AM
@bkmeijer1 - I can dig it!
bkmeijer1
bkmeijer1 - 11/15/2024, 9:33 AM
@KennKathleen - you're the first one. Most people just shrug it off as a bad idea
ModHaterSLADE
ModHaterSLADE - 11/14/2024, 2:03 PM
Scorpion for me, it's just annoying they haven't followed up with Gargan's obsession to kill Spider-Man after all these years. Hell, him becoming Venom like the comics would actually make sense as an antagonist.
cubrn
cubrn - 11/14/2024, 2:24 PM
@ModHaterSLADE - Kingpin hiring Scorpion and Prowler to take out the street level heroes he is banning via powers as Mayor is all I want to see
ModHaterSLADE
ModHaterSLADE - 11/14/2024, 4:00 PM
@cubrn - Agreed.
harryba11zack
harryba11zack - 11/14/2024, 2:05 PM
good thing you don't work at disney cause your ideas suck.
mountainman
mountainman - 11/14/2024, 2:07 PM
A Sinister Six movie would only have an impact if it featured villains who had a history with THIS spiderman.

So IF Spiderman 4 was to feature the Sinister Six, the villains would have to be:
- Vulture
- Shocker
- Scorpion
- Mysterio
- The Tinkerer
- Flash Thompson
(or bring back some of the multiversal villains from NWH)

A better option would be to have Spiderman 4 featuring Kingpin and maybe Tombstone as villains and now you have a better roster to pull from.
TheLobster
TheLobster - 11/14/2024, 2:16 PM
All I want is a street level crime drama with Spidey, Kingpin, and Daredevil front and center but we won’t get that cause SONY is a bunch of stupid [frick]s who continue to learn the wrong lessons smh

*depressed sigh*
Forthas
Forthas - 11/14/2024, 2:22 PM
Yes to Scorpion! I would also not mind seeing Vulture return. The best villain unique to Holland's Spiderman that has been put to screen so far.
JustAWaffle
JustAWaffle - 11/14/2024, 2:22 PM
Since when is the spider slayer a Sin6 villain?
Forthas
Forthas - 11/14/2024, 2:23 PM
Hob Goblin and Green Goblin should be Moon Knight villains. A better fit and more similarly powered.
grif
grif - 11/14/2024, 2:28 PM
goblins been done to death so lets use another goblin...........


PC04
PC04 - 11/14/2024, 2:51 PM
A Scorpion & Spider Slayer story would be great. I do REALLY want to see a live action Hobgoblin though. Always really liked Hobgob.
TheFinestSmack
TheFinestSmack - 11/14/2024, 3:06 PM
I appreciates a good list that's not been recycled!
S8R8M
S8R8M - 11/14/2024, 3:50 PM
Scorpion would be fun.
Thing94
Thing94 - 11/14/2024, 4:00 PM
Scorpion and Spider Slayers
SummersEssex
SummersEssex - 11/14/2024, 4:05 PM
Bad list is bad.
marvel72
marvel72 - 11/14/2024, 4:06 PM
I would actually rather see Venom in a MCU Spider-Man movie than these characters but I do eventually want to see these villains.
jwholmes2011
jwholmes2011 - 11/14/2024, 4:07 PM
Scorpion and Hobgoblin any day of the week. I've been waiting to see Hobs on the big screen for decades!
TyrantBossMedia
TyrantBossMedia - 11/14/2024, 5:05 PM
I just want to see a friendly NEIGHBORHOOD Spider-Man for a change.

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