SPIDER-MAN Rumor May Reveal Surprising Way Two Iconic Villains Will Return For New Trilogy - SPOILERS

SPIDER-MAN Rumor May Reveal Surprising Way Two Iconic Villains Will Return For New Trilogy - SPOILERS

SPIDER-MAN 4 Rumored To Make A Fan-Pleasing Change To The Hero's Web-Slinging Abilities
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FilmGuy7878 - 11/29/2022, 3:03 PM
Honestly Mysterio was a complete waste of Jake Gyllenhaal. He deserved to play a much bigger role in the MCU. Bo Burnham or David Dastmalchian (if he already wasn't in Ant-Man) should have played Quentin.
soberchimera - 11/29/2022, 3:08 PM
For fans of "The Death of Jean DeWolff", Peter David needs some help paying medical bills.

OptimusCrime - 11/29/2022, 3:09 PM
Still dont believe Mysterio is dead..
TheRationalNerd - 11/29/2022, 5:39 PM
@OptimusCrime - I don't think they ever addressed it again. But I don't think k he's dead
TheLobster - 11/29/2022, 3:18 PM
I think I agree with this list? At least with the top three being Green Goblin, Mysterio, and Vulture. Doc Ock is a close 4th for me.
MrDandy - 11/29/2022, 3:22 PM
For the first time…I think I 100% agree with the numbering on this list.
ModHaterSLADE - 11/29/2022, 3:53 PM
Props to Keaton for bringing a Vulture I could find remotely intimidating.
soberchimera - 11/29/2022, 4:00 PM
@ModHaterSLADE - This isn't intimidating to you?!?!?
TheLobster - 11/29/2022, 4:24 PM
@ModHaterSLADE - if you were a kid in HS, you absolutely would.
tmp3 - 11/29/2022, 4:28 PM
goblin & vulture were really good, mystery was fine but forgettable, and the rest were just kind of there
TheFinestSmack - 11/29/2022, 4:44 PM
bkmeijer1 - 11/29/2022, 4:51 PM
Hope we get to see Scorpion and Shocker show up in full gear somewhere in the future. Together with Vulture, Mysterio, and a MCU Ock could make up the Sinister Six.
marvel72 - 11/29/2022, 4:52 PM
Well at least Norman Osborn was number 1.
JFerguson - 11/29/2022, 5:01 PM
Can’t believe we have basically all the Spidey villains in my profile pic in live action already
HeavyMetal4Life - 11/29/2022, 5:07 PM

Wow, a correct ranking.

CaptainDC - 11/29/2022, 5:10 PM
Zero complaints here... haters will nit-pick at Mysterio but I think Gyllenhal knocked it out of the park. The character was menacing in his own with the use of technology. Loved it.
SheepishOne - 11/29/2022, 5:33 PM
"Heading into this movie, many fans hoped the MCU would get its own Norman. After this clash, we think it's fair to say there's no longer any need"

Hard disagree on there not being any need for an MCU Norman. With Peter knowing how dangerous the Green Goblin can be, I think it would be incredibly interesting to see a non-Goblin Norman introduced to the MCU, and Peter struggling with knowing what could become of him. If done right, every interaction would be an almost Hitchcockian moment of suspense. Is Norman genuine? Is he already evil?

A common theme with Spider-Man films is that Spidey either indirectly creates his enemy, or he is involved enough with them in his personal life that he feels responsible for what becomes of them (sort of an extension of the Uncle Ben death). I'd love to watch a Spidey film in which Peter knows what a person's potential for evil is, and he has to struggle with what to do about it, well before they've done anything wrong. You could explore the ideas of fate, free will, and the moral dilemma of the lengths one should take to preemptively stop a crime before it can even be conceived.

Maybe Peter stops Norman from becoming the Goblin, only to inadvertently push Harry into the suit.
TheRationalNerd - 11/29/2022, 6:14 PM
@SheepishOne - totally agreed with you here. There's no need to give up hope on an MCU norman when there's so much rich history and lure surrounding his character. Like, Dark Avengers anyone? Norman killing Gwen? If and only if they do another trilogy post this next one I think Goblin should lead his own trilogy. Hob Goblin, Green Goblin etc.
TheRationalNerd - 11/29/2022, 5:35 PM
Spider-Man 4 Scorpion & Rhino

Spider-Man 5 Venom & Kraven

Spider-Man 6 Sinister Six (not too sure of the roster)
TheRationalNerd - 11/29/2022, 5:38 PM
@TheRationalNerd - Maybe Shocker, Scorpion, Mysterio, Vulture, Rhino and Doc Ock?
MrDandy - 11/29/2022, 9:24 PM
@TheRationalNerd - building to the Sinister 6 does make the most sense but, unfortunately, Sony is dead set on their horrible version in their own universe…so it probably won’t happen. I’m willing to bet they wanted a 6th villain for a multi-demensional sinister 6 in No away Home but Sony stopped it. Just a theory.
SheepishOne - 11/29/2022, 11:19 PM
@TheRationalNerd - I dig it. Though personally, I'd maybe put Sinister Six in part 5 and have that be the movie that Peter encounters the symbiote and uses the Black suit to help defeat the Six. End that movie with Peter getting rid of the suit and Eddie (MCU Eddie, not Sony Eddie) finding it. Then Venom (and maybe Carnage) as Spidey 6. I like the idea of a 1v1 for the conclusion of the second trilogy.
TheRationalNerd - 11/29/2022, 11:52 PM
@MrDandy - I really hope not man! Smh I wonder if they changed their idea of what they were attempting to do with them? I know they've used Venom, Morbius, Kraven and Vulture (Morbius end credit?) I really hope they're done and changing their approach. However, I will say that there may be some potential in Goddard's Sinister Six film. If they did a spin off film like that led into Spidey 6 I'd be all for it.
TheRationalNerd - 11/29/2022, 11:56 PM
@SheepishOne - Ahhhh! I see what you're saying here. Do you think they'd really try to do Carnage again. though? I guess you could ask the same for venom too! Symbiote saga is totally happening with Secret Wars on the way. If SM4 happens in 2024 I can definently see SM5 happening in 2026 (a year after secret wars) delving into Peter having the suit. Maybe in the 5th film he has the suit (totally goes insane by the third act) and in the 6th film (second act) he gets rid of it?
GeneralZod - 11/29/2022, 5:44 PM
Doc Ock should be first. Molina was spectacular in SM2 -- a movie many still regard as the greatest CBM of all time.

TheRationalNerd - 11/29/2022, 6:11 PM
@GeneralZod - Correct!! However,in NWH he really didn't have much to do/work with.
TheBigLebowski - 11/29/2022, 6:55 PM
Having recently rewatched the entire trilogy I found myself really appreciating the first two movies and the clever, fresh way they wrote the villains. Made me actually kinda bummed when the 3rd one resorted to playing to nostalgia instead of coming up with its own takes on these villains (with that said, I do like NWH and still find it a satisfying ending to the trilogy).
TheAstoundingMan - 11/29/2022, 7:16 PM
I know it's not high on many people's lists but I loved Far From Home, and a lot of it had to do with Mysterio.
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