Actual Superman Villains In Superman Movies

I was never comparing, and I never said Zod was a bad villain. And I never said the movie would be bad. I actually am excited to see Supes actually throw a punch, I just wish it was on someone elses face.

I do agree that Zod is the best to retell an origin, I didn't consider that, and it is a good point, but the general public should know enough that we do not need EVERY detail laid out for us. We know the basics, Superman is a very popular character not only in media, but in the world. We know a few things about him.

And maybe Doomsday and Darkseid are pretty recent, but theyre recent enough to be animated, so that means that theyre recent enough to be live-action too. We saw Darkseid in the animated series in the mid-nineties, nearly twenty years ago. Thats not very recent at all.

Spider-Man 1 had Green Goblin, his toughest enemy in the comics, and the worst thing about it was his costume. And Spider-Man 2 was a few hairs shy of being a masterpiece, so it can work. That being said, I am excited for this movie, and I don't think Zod is the worst choice, I just wish it was someone else.

Sorry, I understand what you're saying, but you can't compare Loki to Darkseid. Loki is standing there taking crap from Tony. Darkseid would've fried his a$$ before he could have gotten one word out.

Darkseid is like Thanos - everyone wants him immediately one way or another, but fans don't understand that they would be biting off far more than they can chew. Like Just1Superguy said, Darkseid is good for a climax, and not just because of his "power level", but because of how involving his story is.

Consider the character interaction before anything else. Lex Luthor is a sure thing as far as that is concerned - he is the anti-thesis of Superman and he's human. General Zod is from Krypton. I'm going to break into a different territory here - Transformers Prime. The action figures are just now coming out, only very slowly and gradually. Right now it is Wheeljack, Cliffjumper (they have only made extremely minor appearances on the show), aaaaaaannnnnnnd - Bumblebee. Bumblebee has his own tv trope for being the kid tested, mother approved safe choice. He has even managed to overshadow Optimus in being the most prominent marketable character from the movies, from various POPs to the obvious toys. He is cheap too, which means Hasbro can sell more of him.

I'm fairly certain that DC has yet to truly grow a pair, considering how apart from Batman Begins, the same villains have been used before, just in different and less faithful ways. Even this new Catwoman look is extremely reminiscent of Julie Newmar.

With Superman, since it is a reboot, it is reasonable that they use a bit of the old to fulfill a marriage of the new, and yes I know how silly that sounds. General Zod is old school for those who have seen the old movies (believe it or not, most kids haven't, and don't even know who Christopher Reeve is) - but he is still, like Kal-El, an alien from Krypton. The fact that they are starting this franchise off with an alien threat is a good sign. Imagine if it was Luthor.

It sets the precedent for the next villains in the franchise, and while we should probably count on seeing Lex Luthor in a sequel, it is likely he will not be alone. From General Zod, I think we should expect Brainiac, and from General Lane's involvement, maybe we could see Metallo worked in there in some way. But there has to be a start, one bookend before the last.

I'm completely and utterly against Doomsday. Lobo has more character depth. Doomsday is just a monster who lands on Earth, beats the Justice League, and then fights Superman to the death. He was created to kill off Superman to make the Man of Steel vulnerable again. He doesn't have any ambition. He doesn't want anything from Earth. For all intents and purposes, he doesn't even KNOW what Earth is. He is a vehicle for destruction and action sequences, nothing more. He would be the worst possible choice.

Great article Thanos005.

The analogy you used with Loki and Darkseid was appropriate and makes sense.

If you introduce him in Superman, then you don't have to waste time explaining his origin story in a Justice Leage movie. Marvel saw the bigger picture when it was planning Avengers and none of the characters will feel short changed because everybody already knows who loki is.

Interesting article, Zod was the last villain I wanted to see in this movie but at least they got a great actor for the role.

It is pretty crazy that after 6 movies they've only used 2 good villains, I never really thought about that before. I can't believe nobody used Metallo yet cause he'd look cool in a movie and he's easy to explain.

Alot of new (post-Crisis) material, with Zod, has been written since 1980. I'm sure Zod will be based on that as opposed to the stories the Terence Stamp version was based. Just look at the Joker. The Heath Ledger Joker was written much differently than the Jack Nicholson Joker. The Jack Nicholson Joker was much written differently than the Cesar Romero Joker. The reason for this is that the different Jokers were based on different writings of the character. It will be the same with Zod. Pre-Crisis Zod is different than Post-Crisis Zod.

By the way, I am glad that the supercomputer in Superman III wasn't called Brainiac. That would just annoy me because it wouldn't be Brainiac. It would be similar to how Bane was portrayed in Batman & Robin. Besides, if that occured, people would be able to argue that we have already seen Brainiac in the movies. On that note, I would love to see Brainiac in the next sequel (assuming we get one). Brainiac is my favorite Superman villain.

@ golden123 I will and i also have another fan fic idea on my ideas for a medieval superman...

@Just1Superguy: Mongul is a Superman villain.

@Thanos500: Darkseid was the main villain in the tenth season of Smallville. Also, General Zod was the main villain for season nine, and Doomsday was the main villain for season eight. All of which were pretty recent. Smallville had enough viewers to last ten seasons.

@Tainted.... I think Doomsday is a great idea for one of the movies... maybe not a creation of Lex or Brainiac but still used as a weapon by either of these 2... In my ideas I think that Lex should be the creator of a Metallo. If you have read my first comment that I posted you will know what I mean...

@Tainted87: The Superman mythos as portrayed in Smallville are still the Superman mythos. Just because you didn't like the show doesn't mean it doesn't count. You can still compare the show the movies.

I don't get how Mongul is not suitable for movies and Darkseid is. I've always seen those two as similar villains.

Have you read the Doomsday Wars story. It's the best Doomsday story there is. Doomsday isn't even the main villain, though. Brainiac is. I wouldn't mind a movie being based off of that story. I think you might like it.

Your idea for portraying Brainiac in the next movie reminds me of Superman the animated series.

Darkseid would chew him up and spit him out

@HeroComplex Snyder said he would distant himself from his style of slo-mo.

I enjoy Snyder's use of "slo mo" stuff. In my opinion, it's a whole lot more than "slo mo" - there is a lot of technique in what he does.

i think Zod is a wonderful choice for a first movie, Id like to see them introduce Lex and maybe Metallo in the second and then if there is a third movie bring in Mongul or Darkseid. I always had a soft spot for the villain Conduit when i was growing up. the whole Kenny Braverman/Clark Kent rivalry was a nice touch to clark's background as well. but thats just my opinion

I really liked what this article had to say, but I might be biased because I am in full agreement.

Another point to The Dark Knight's returning villains, is that Batman Begins did set up a sort of "new" Batman universe. It was the kind of reboot that made you excited to see any familiar rouge, and what the realistic spin on him (or her) would be.

This will be Superman's first true reboot, so in that way, the new take on Zod might be exciting. But again, I'm with the author in that Zod isn't exactly a foe who lights my fire, so seeing him again, no matter what the new twist, isn't as exciting as it could be. Probably because I'm not as familiar with him as I am Batman/Spiderman villains.

But the point is (and it is 100% valid) that all these movies, and the filmmakers go to the same well. Do they just not think other Superman villains are good enough? Are they too hard to pull off? Or do they just not even really know the property as well as fans?

What worries me most, is we might not even get a new face anytime soon. If Zod is in the first movie, there's no way Lex Luthor isn't in the second. Which means we'd have to wait THREE movies from now to see any other Supes rogue come to life- IF the franchise isn't rebooted again by that time.

A great 1st article. (you will fit right in!)

People are worried because its the same villain AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!

Everyone saying, "well TDK reused Joker and Two Face" err that WASN'T THE REBOOT!!! IT WAS THE SECOND ONE!!!

EVERY reboot, expect this one has had a new villain

Snyder LIED!!!!

This movie is sounded more and more like a remake everyday!

Oh and re using Loki means nothing why? BECAUSE THE AVENGERS ISN'T THE NEXT THOR MOVIE!!

Doesn't count

@Whiteharted I think YOU should zip it.. Nolan IS producing. This is the Official press release from Warner Bros.

“Man of Steel” is being produced by Charles Roven, Emma Thomas, Christopher Nolan and Deborah Snyder. The screenplay was written by David S. Goyer, from a story by Goyer and Nolan, based upon Superman characters created by Jerry Siegel & Joe Shuster and published by DC Comics. Thomas Tull and Lloyd Phillips are serving as executive producers."
If you don't believe it, heres a link to the official press release

http://www2.warnerbros.com/web/corpcomm/portal/press_release.jsp?id=ManOfSteelRevealed08.04.11

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