Matthew Vaughn On Superman, Singer and the Reboot!

Matthew Vaughn On Superman, Singer and the Reboot!

The director of Kick-Ass shares his thoughts on the new team behind the Superman reboot, Bryan Singer and the exaggerated rumours surrounding his and Millar's proposed movie...

By JoshWilding - Mar 26, 2010 01:03 PM EST
Filed Under: Superman
Source: MTV Splash Page

"That sort of all got blown out of proportion. I had a very brief chat with them and that's all it was. From a 30-second chat, it's become this huge thing," Vaughn told MTV. "It hadn't gone as far as casting, we just had an idea for a story for Superman — that was it."

"I think they're both talented, so it's in good hands — I just hope they don't make it too serious," he said when asked about how he feels now that the character is in the hands of Christopher Nolan and David Goyer. "I think that's the one thing not to do with Superman, trying to do the serious 'The Dark Knight' version. Superman is about color and fun, or it should be, for me."

And as for how he feels about Bryan Singer's 'Superman Returns' he said, "It had no idea what it was. Was it a remake, a prequel or a sequel? What was it? I actually think Bryan Singer has done some fabulous movies, but I felt that that was just a mess. There's no other way to describe it."

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HelaGood
HelaGood - 3/26/2010, 1:59 PM
A MESS!!!! TRULY!!!
InTylerWeTrust
InTylerWeTrust - 3/26/2010, 1:59 PM
"I just hope they don't make it too serious"

Agreed wholeheartedly.
DogsOfWar
DogsOfWar - 3/26/2010, 2:11 PM
Agree with everything he said up there.

Returns was a mess and the new movie should not be "dark"
JoshWilding
JoshWilding - 3/26/2010, 2:14 PM
I couldnt agree more with him if I tried! And although the reboot is in good hands with Nolan, I'd still like to see Vaughn direct this because it's clear he has a good understanding and love for the character!

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JoshWilding
JoshWilding - 3/26/2010, 2:17 PM
On a seperate note, has anyone here read the first issue of Nemesis yet? Personally, I thought that the first issue was fantastic and just hope that Kick-Ass does well enough that they'll want to do a (faithful) movie adaptation! :)
Hawksblueyes
Hawksblueyes - 3/26/2010, 2:17 PM
He nailed it.
GeekSexy
GeekSexy - 3/26/2010, 2:23 PM
@JoshW -I have Nemesis in my hands, but I've been holding off to make it my last read of this weeks books mainly because I love anticipation; I am looking forward to it, though.
BIANCONERI
BIANCONERI - 3/26/2010, 2:29 PM
Dont we want a serious Superman? To fit with the serious Batman?
ecksmanfan
ecksmanfan - 3/26/2010, 2:29 PM
Yeah, he pretty much hit the nail on the head with those statements.
HelaGood
HelaGood - 3/26/2010, 2:55 PM
foxfan
foxfan - 3/26/2010, 3:37 PM
"was it a remake, a prequel or a sequel? what was it?"

man, this guy has some of the best opinions about CBMs that i've heard in a long, long time. plus, he helped me finally articulate my problems with superman returns - just what exactly is this move supposed to be? THAT has been what bothers me about superbore returns as much or more than anything else.
113
113 - 3/26/2010, 3:41 PM
what i'm worried about is if they go down the "fun light-hearted" road then it could easily become campy and cheesy. I don't want that...

Superman is supposed to serious in this sense, he's a god on earth. He is a leader of all and a highly moral individual.

So i don't want the seriousness of the Dark Knight in the sense that it's dark gloomy/mildy depressing BUT I want the seriousness of the Dark Knight in the sense that the world is realistic, when supervillians attack their attacks are shown to be brutal (not gory, but brutal) so that it conveys the emotions citizens feel towards Superman when he saves them. I don't want any "gee golly superman thanks for stopping doomsday and then the citizens go about their daily lives like nothing happens...What superman does needs to feel like it impacts the whole world, it needs to feel epic so the threats he faces need to be credible and realistic so that the audience gets a real feeling of hope when he arrives on a scene.

But again, the worst thing they could do is model Superman on Batman, they are completely different people and the cities they come from are compleltly different, gotham is supposed to be gritty/dark, metropolis is supposed to be almost futuristic and very beautiful with lots of sun to represent hope.

Superman is just a harder character to get right than Batman and that's why it's hard to find great Superman comics as opposed to the abundance of very good batman comics.
Spock
Spock - 3/26/2010, 4:41 PM
I just didn't like the story line for Supes REturn, Brandon Routh did play an excellent supes, but the story wasn't that great.
Gose
Gose - 3/26/2010, 4:42 PM
For me, it was definitely a FLYBY .....
InTylerWeTrust
InTylerWeTrust - 3/26/2010, 4:44 PM
No, we don't want a serious Superman in the vein of the Nolan Bat-films. Because Superman is not that dark and serious. That's part of the great dynamic between Supes and Bats. The former is a beacon of justice, while the other is the dark shadow of vengeance. It's been that way for a long time. It's what makes them so interesting to watch interact with each other.

What we all want is a mature Superman film. Not a serious one that is similar to Nolan's films. Because that is not what makes Superman, well, Superman.

The film can be serious in that it doesn't talk down to the audience and takes THEM seriously, being mature in itself. But the film should NOT try to emulate the success of Nolan and make Superman a dark character like Batman, because that's the total opposite of who he is.
Gose
Gose - 3/26/2010, 4:46 PM
And Superman is definitely a serious piece of comic history, just think of it, the story starts with the death and destruction of billions of lives of a planet ...... its a aftermath story
fanboiii
fanboiii - 3/26/2010, 4:49 PM
I agree with 113.

Was The Dark Knight even all that serious? I don't think it was. There were light moments here and there. I thought The Dark Knight was as serious as Iron Man with the exception of Tony Stark being a more extroverted person. But as far as the tone of the movie, they were both serious.

I don't think a fun and light Superman movie is the way to go. I don't want it to be like Spider-man. Sure Superman as a character should come off as light hearted, positive, and charming, but he should also be commanding and stern. I want to see a Superman movie done seriously which includes giving Superman a complete personality.

I really hope Nolan inputs his action directing ability. He knows how to make action scenes intense and amazing. As an audience, we need to feel just how super Superman is.
ProfOJ
ProfOJ - 3/26/2010, 5:13 PM
just start over!WHAT WAS IT,A CONTINUATION? THATS STILL A GOOD QUESTION!
BigL1979
BigL1979 - 3/26/2010, 5:16 PM
Yes, the man resposible for the classic "The Usual Suspects" crapped his pants on Supes. Superman is majestic and needs a real foe to make him seem so.
Gearstation
Gearstation - 3/26/2010, 5:39 PM
I just hope the next Superman movie will actually show Superman enjoying his powers. Not using them selfishly, but show the excitement and thrill of simply flying, super strength, etc. I'd also like to see him be a little tougher on criminals. No more just standing there with his hands on his hips. Let him be the two fists of justice he was in his earlier comic versions.
113
113 - 3/26/2010, 5:48 PM
what i'm worried about is if they go down the "fun light-hearted" road then it could easily become campy and cheesy. I don't want that...

Superman is supposed to serious in this sense, he's a god on earth. He is a leader of all and a highly moral individual.

So i don't want the seriousness of the Dark Knight in the sense that it's dark gloomy/mildy depressing BUT I want the seriousness of the Dark Knight in the sense that the world is realistic, when supervillians attack their attacks are shown to be brutal (not gory, but brutal) so that it conveys the emotions citizens feel towards Superman when he saves them. I don't want any "gee golly superman thanks for stopping doomsday and then the citizens go about their daily lives like nothing happens...What superman does needs to feel like it impacts the whole world, it needs to feel epic so the threats he faces need to be credible and realistic so that the audience gets a real feeling of hope when he arrives on a scene.

But again, the worst thing they could do is model Superman on Batman, they are completely different people and the cities they come from are compleltly different, gotham is supposed to be gritty/dark, metropolis is supposed to be almost futuristic and very beautiful with lots of sun to represent hope.

Superman is just a harder character to get right than Batman and that's why it's hard to find great Superman comics as opposed to the abundance of very good batman comics.
dudemanjac
dudemanjac - 3/26/2010, 6:03 PM
Superman 1 and 2 had the perfect mix of serious and fun. Why is it so hard to repeat that? 3 was campy. 4 was bad (Though I did like nuclear man's suit.)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TRLSOmEVgIg
2:47-2:58 The only cool part of this movie.
Phinehas
Phinehas - 3/26/2010, 6:19 PM
Superman too serious? Why would it be? It should have a theme, a conflict, and a dilema. Done. Oh and filled with sober action. Not Michael Bay action, but JJ Abrams, Louis Letterier, or John Favreau action.

His analysis of Singerman's take of an effeminate man of steel was spot on.
Bandrews1
Bandrews1 - 3/26/2010, 6:19 PM
Yes Superman Returns was a failure.
SupermanReturns2006
SupermanReturns2006 - 3/26/2010, 6:49 PM
Too me Superman Returns was ok, I wanted to see that movie it's a sequel linked to the Original Superman films. Bryan Singer did a good job directing that movie and used the extended version from Richard Donner to see how "Superman 5" turned out.

Superman Returns is not a remake just a prequel and sequel which is different than the original Superman films. I will like to see Brainiac appear in the upcoming "Superman 6". Superman 6 will be based on "The Man of Steel" series written by John Byrne.


I like to see Terry O'Quinn who can make an awesome villain playing Lex Luther. Jennifer Love Hewitt can make an awesome beloved Lois Lane. The first casting on Lois Lane (Played by Kate Bosworth) was ok and she is a Single Parent engaged to get married to her boss Perry White's nephew Richard White, played by James Marsden who recently played "The Cyclops" from X-MEN 1 & 2 who is new to the Daily Planet. The whole movie discuss how Lois Lane moved on to her life decide to get married and had one son and Superman was been absent from Planet Earth for years. All the fans didnt want to spoil it because we dont know what the next chapter will be in the upcoming Man of Steel sequel.

Here are the New Superman sequels:
Superman 5 = Superman Returns (2006)
Superman 6 = Superman: The Man of Steel (2012)-Unconfirmed
Superman 7 = Superman Forever (2015) - Unconfirmed
Superman 8 = Superman Reigns (2018)
Scorpioxfactor
Scorpioxfactor - 3/26/2010, 7:38 PM
I am sorry, but I can't see anyone else doing Superman other than Routh. Even in the reboot. I've seen Routh in other movies and all I can see is him as Supes. I kept hoping he would just open his shirt and change into Superman.
Scorpioxfactor
Scorpioxfactor - 3/26/2010, 7:58 PM
Supermanreturns - One, could you explain the part about fans not wanting to spoil the next movie? Two- I like what you said about Superman Returns. I thought it held the majesty of all the other Superman films, just that there wasn't enough action. Things were too drawn out until we finally got to any action scenes. I also felt that the ***Spoiler Alert*** Superman had a son thing was kind of killing it for me. How will follow up now? I like DC, I grew up with DC and Marvel, but I am not a die hard DC fan like a loyal fellow such as yourself. So with that being said, thirdly, I want to reinterate an idea for the Reboot that someone mentioned before here at CBM. Have it be like James Bond movies. Always a new story with no serious continuity issues. What do you think about that?
Tenaciousbt
Tenaciousbt - 3/26/2010, 8:11 PM
I couldn't disagree more. I think this movie needs to be very serious. Superman can be his usual boy scout self, but the feel and tone of the film need to be epic and very serious, with truly powerful and evil villains. Not Lex Luthor. Like Todd said, “We’ve seen enough live-action Superman cartoons."
I agree, and think it's time for Superman to be truly challenged. His strength, his righteousness need to be tested, and in a very serious way. I don’t want a light hearted, campy, feel good movie. I want an action packed, epic film with off world tie INS and a better display of the true depths of Superman’s Power. I have been hearing all this talk about depowering Superman. That is non sense. We don’t need a weak Superman; we need a Super Powered villain to show that while Superman is EXTREMELY powerful he is not invulnerable to pain and harm beyond “kryptonite.” Darkseid is perfect for this. I hope we get a serious, epic film with Darkseid as the antagonist.
Scorpioxfactor
Scorpioxfactor - 3/26/2010, 8:28 PM
If not Darksied, then someone he can trade blows with. A slug it out fest mixed with some of what you want mixed in there, what do you think tenacious?
Tenaciousbt
Tenaciousbt - 3/26/2010, 8:55 PM
Scorpioxfactor,
Yeah, it definately have to be someone that Superman can punch "Hard!" and can be punched hard by. Oh, and it's really important that Superman knows how to fight. Something along the lines of how Sherlock Holmes was a good fighter. I am not saying that I want to see scenes just like those in Sherlock Holmes, but I am saying that Superman need to be able to fight, he will learn that skill by fighting Super powered villains. And in this movie it should be clear that he is a bad ass not just a prissy dude with Super powers.
BenRielly
BenRielly - 3/26/2010, 11:16 PM
super man returns = EPIC FAIL



Brandon Routh = Excellent SUPER MAN


Brandon routh played an awesome super man the movie sucked though.

i totally agree with some of the comments i think this next one NEEDS TO BE THE BLACK SHEEP OF THE SERIES and set precedent much how the dark knight and begins did for the batman series.


Reeves was an awesome super man and so was Routh.

Just about every actor that was cast as batman minus Val kilmer (how the [frick] did that happen) well maybe clooney too; played a great bruce wayne...



The problem has always been the story


weve all seen the bright super man and the kryptonite villian...


Its time for something different...


By no means am i suggesting that any director change superman's character what i am saying is change the dynamics world he lives in.

if that means make it serious in an effort to suspend my disbelief that much more; well have at it.






i want to see a world in which nolans dark knight and Superman can co exist


Scorpioxfactor
Scorpioxfactor - 3/27/2010, 12:32 AM
More Ben More!!
r0r5ch4ch84
r0r5ch4ch84 - 3/27/2010, 3:18 AM
Once again, here's my two cents...


Also-
@JoshW- That's Bryan singer, right? if so then the poster is accurate.
Vital
Vital - 3/27/2010, 6:53 AM
113 said it perfectly, I think HE should direct the film lol.
superman7
superman7 - 3/27/2010, 1:17 PM
I definitely want the next superman movie to be "fun" in the sense that its fun to watch. But it can't be too light to the point of Campy. The threat has to be real and immediate.
And Superman has to throw a few punches. The thing that would make it serious is that any baddie that can challenge superman is a huge threat to society at large. So just the fight between Superman and whoever they choose should be EPIC!

One of the things that i did like about SR is the movie showed how it affected people on a personal level. There would be a TON of collateral damage. And that would be the serious aspect.

Basically as intylerwetrust said: fun but mature

Shaman
Shaman - 3/27/2010, 4:29 PM
Tyler, couldn't agree with you more!!! 500% witcha on that ;)
SuperPowered
SuperPowered - 3/27/2010, 7:58 PM
Matthew Vaughn is cool. I would love to see a intergalactic outerspace Superman saga. See him on other worlds and kick some ass.
ASSASSIN666
ASSASSIN666 - 3/28/2010, 5:54 PM
What a c**t, Singer's movie was solid. What a prick, what a scumbag, go get f**ked by your mother asshole. Singer's movie involved a story, not a button mashing effects jerk-off fest.
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