Joel Silver Shares His Thoughts On Comic Book Movies

Joel Silver Shares His Thoughts On Comic Book Movies

The uber-producer speaks up on Swamp Thing, The Losers and the genre itself.

By DogsOfWar - May 23, 2010 11:05 PM EST
Filed Under: The Losers
Source: Collider

Joel Silver is one of the movers and shakers in Hollywood. He seems to have his finger in the pot on so many big movies you wonder when he sleeps. The 58 year old has at least twenty movies in one stage or another of production. As far as CBM's go he is attached to Swamp Thing, Sgt. Rock and Lobo. While out doing promotions for the horror movie Splice, Collider caught up with him and he let loose with some of his thoughts on comic book movies.


Swamp Thing seems to have stalled out and doesn't look to go anywhere soon.

"I’ve always wanted to make Swamp Thing. I like Swamp Thing. I think it’s a good idea, and I thought it would be a good venue for a 3-D movie, but there were rights issues with Swamp Thing. We were developing a script. We actually developed a couple of drafts and were close, but then, all of a sudden, it became evident that the motion picture rights were not held by Warner Bros. Even though DC owned the underlying material, the movie that was made by Embassy with Adrienne Barbeau was owned by another company. It’s complicated. So, we’re trying to work it out. Forbidden Planet was the same thing. I really want to make that movie, and it was very hard to clear the rights. It took years to get the rights cleared for that, but we finally cleared it, so I’d like to make that."



The Losers vastly underperformed at the box office (only $24 Million worldwide). What happened?

"It didn’t work. I liked the movie. Looking at The A-Team and The Expendables, and they’re much more expensive films than The Losers was. It was a very inexpensive movie. And, we all went down there hoping to pull it off. I liked it, but either it wasn’t fresh enough, it wasn’t unique enough or it didn’t draw an audience enough."

Asked if he would do anything differently:

"I don’t know. The Losers of the comic book is what we made. That’s what it was. We did what it was. I don’t know if having a lot of bigger names in it would have made a difference. Warner Bros. tried to make it 10 years ago, and maybe that’s when it should have been made."


Collider finally asked the following : "Do you think that there just isn’t the interest, if it’s not Batman, Spider-Man, Superman or Iron Man?"

"Iron Man was not a prevalent, important character. He wasn’t. Downey wanted the role desperately, at the beginning, and they didn’t really want to go with him. He didn’t even really know about Iron Man. Yes, he was on television in the morning, but it wasn’t like Batman, Spider-Man and Superman. But, that movie is the single most saleable character that Marvel owns now – more than Spider-Man, and more than anything – because of those movies. Men in Black was a weird, off-the-grid comic book. It depends on how the movie is. And, when Downey made Iron Man, he wasn’t Will Smith. It’s just that that movie did create a lot of interest in the character and in those comic books, in general. And, they’re making a third Men in Black now. The reality is that each movie has got to be seen in its own light. Warner Bros. tried to make a Justice League movie for years and then they shut it down. Now, The Avengers will be the first superhero team movie. With Downey and Chris Evans, who is in The Losers, and all these guys, it could be a huge movie. We’ll see."

To hear more about Splice check out my Exclusive interview with director Vincenzo Natali from last month.

Click the link below to hear more from Silver on Logan's Run, Splice and a new horror flick called The Apparition.

DogsOfWar-Silver is definitely a "throw it against the wall and see what sticks" kind of producer. Many of the movies he is attached to fizzle out and go nowhere but he has hit many more out of the park. Along with the CBM's I would like to see Logan's Run get remade with all the new advancements in film-making.
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peterparker420
peterparker420 - 5/24/2010, 12:03 AM
WOW that would be AWESOME, a LOGAN'S RUN remake!

I would like to see a PET CEMETARY remake, or a
HELLRAISER remake..but that's just me!

even though BOTH those movie still holds water TODAY!
LEEE777
LEEE777 - 5/24/2010, 2:25 AM
[frick]ing make SWAMP THING!!!

[frick] LOGANS RUN, (Can't beat the CLASSIC) An hey its Comic book movies here, SWAMP THING all da way!!!

Get ALAN MOORE involved! : D

(jk)

Great find @ DOGS!!
LibertySeaOtter
LibertySeaOtter - 5/24/2010, 3:19 AM
I really think more people knew about Iron Man than what is always mentioned. The first movie was hyped up a lot. Not a lot of people know who The Losers are in comics, and with similar movies coming out with bigger names (The Expendables), or who are more well known (The A-Team), how are The Losers going to even compare.

Good article DOW
LEEE777
LEEE777 - 5/24/2010, 3:22 AM
SeaOtterRodgers @ Exactly dude!
TheGlove
TheGlove - 5/24/2010, 3:36 AM
He seem's like a right arshole who hasn't got a clue any more.
He's been sitting on Wonder Woman for years and has done nothing with it because he's scared of her.what an idiot.
the Losers looked like a load of crap right from the begining.He's totally out of touch as a producer these days.
jazzman
jazzman - 5/24/2010, 5:01 AM
Joel Silver dont know s***. The Losers did not fail because of budget it failed because it was directed by Sylvain White, it had a bad script, and it was also produce Akiva Goldsman the same guy who wrote the god awful Batman & Robin.

he should not be attached to Sgt. Rock and Lobo. their idea for Sgt. Rock does not follow the source material also they wanted to make Lobo a PG-13 movie. i know R-Rated movies does not make a better movie but you cant make a movie that its main source material is R-Rated and drop it down to a PG-13. just imagine Blade or Punisher was a PG-13 movie.

@SeaOtterRodgers + LEEE777

actually his right about Iron Man when it comes to the general public not including comic book fans not alot of people know Iron Man. more people knows Batman, Spider-Man and Superman even Hulk cause they had popluar TV series not just comic books. Joel Silver is right about that comment.
LEEE777
LEEE777 - 5/24/2010, 5:46 AM
Well i liked THE LOSERS!!! : p

Forbidden Planet would be [frick]ing awesome, good call @ TEA!
LibertySeaOtter
LibertySeaOtter - 5/24/2010, 6:10 AM
@Jazzman

You are right, it's not as well known. It is a name that people know though one way or another. Batman, Spiderman, X-men, ets... all kind of set up Iron Man to have success. They created a super hero movie following. The Losers aren't looked at as super heros and not a lot of people know that it's a comic.

@LEEE

Agreed, i liked The Losers as well. I think it was really good for what it was.

@teabag

agreed on Forbidden Planet. I don't know to much about Forbidden Planet, but looking at it on IMDB, it looks like it would be great to see a version with the technology we have now.
DeathWalker
DeathWalker - 5/24/2010, 6:23 AM
I do think Joel Silver is kinda clueless but who can argue his history. About Iron Man I can see where he is coming from. I just saw Iron man 2 yesterday and I have to say I was disappointed.
ROMACK
ROMACK - 5/24/2010, 6:35 AM
I would so love for all the legal entanglements of Swamp Thing to be undone so we can get a new movie going.

@DW- Man I love and hate your avatar all at once. I love it for the obvious reasons and hate it because it makes it so hard for me type when it is on the screen. It is absolutely awesome! What a way to start my day.
jazzman
jazzman - 5/24/2010, 8:15 AM
@TheGlove

the Wonder Woman situation is for many reason.

1- maybe they dont know how to do a good female superhero movie

2- look at all the failed female lead characters from comic books and video games that made into film - Supergirl, Catwoman, Elektra, Aeon Flux, Tomb Raider, Street Fighter: Legend of Chun-li, etc. the film studios look at this feeling that their is no point to do a female superhero on film cause them movies has failed making money or the general audience hated them films with a passion.

i believe Wonder Woman can be a great movie if they get a good director and screen writters. i do feel Joel Silver should not be near any DC products.

@SeaOtterRodgers

yes we know The Losers arent looked as superheroes who said it was they are basically the comic book version of the A-Team. Joel Silver and his team should of made The Loser much more better then the final product. Joel Silver is an a$$ anyway he and his team made The Losers campy.

yeah more people only know Iron Man only because of the success of the first movie. if Iron Man was not made into a movie and you asked none comic book reader they would not really known about Iron Man. Joel Silver is basically talking about the first Iron Man movie success.

@teabag

i think the Losers is open this week Friday
AverageCitizen99
AverageCitizen99 - 5/24/2010, 8:41 AM
@ LEEE777
I'd like your help on formatting pictures side-by-side. I asked joslezio and he said you should know better how to do it since you did format my pics for my first article. If you can, leave a comment on one of my articles pertaining to this.

@Everyone Else
If any of you know how to better paste pics side-by-side, please tell me how by leaving a comment with the set of rules on one of my articles.
thatiscrazy
thatiscrazy - 5/24/2010, 10:06 AM
Nice article.

Silver is difinitly hollywood considering his comments

Silver and Hollywood underestimates peoples knowledge about Iornman before the movie.

As for the losers... well it should have been Rated-R

Spock
Spock - 5/24/2010, 10:46 AM
General Pub didnt' know to much about IronMan, but the rest of us know that he was always involved & was never a B rated chara. I would argue other wise on that point. Still havent' seen the Losers!
Phinehas
Phinehas - 5/24/2010, 10:46 AM
What these out of touch producers need to consider is, what made the comics they're basing their movie off of so popular?
I don't think they do. I think they see the success of the graphic novel or comic book, then erroneously try and repackage it to their own folly. They end up subverting their own efforts by taking something gritty and surreal and then turning it into something slick and overly processed.
1chris2
1chris2 - 5/24/2010, 11:42 AM
that sucks swamp thing could be really good a second time around.
SHAZAM171
SHAZAM171 - 5/24/2010, 12:55 PM
Man Thing is more menacing than Swamp Thing, Don't you think??

LibertySeaOtter
LibertySeaOtter - 5/24/2010, 5:01 PM
@jazzman

I'm not making the point whether or not The Losers are a super hero team. I'm making the point that people are into the super hero genre right now, not the comic book movie genre. People knew Iron Man's name. People know Green Lanterns name, how many of them that don't read comics know he's an intergalactic protector. All they knew about Iron Man is that he wore a suit, but people knew who he was. All they know about the Green Lantern is that he has a ring. I bet most people couldn't tell you what his ring does. All I'm saying is Super Heroes are what's selling right now not Comic Book Movies.
jazzman
jazzman - 5/25/2010, 8:55 AM
@SeaOtterRodgers

"All I'm saying is Super Heroes are what's selling right now not Comic Book Movies."

yes Super heroes are selling right now but the one who are selling big are comic book movies.
LEEE777
LEEE777 - 5/25/2010, 1:59 PM
SEA @ HELL YEAH i really enjoyed THE LOSERS great fun!!!

AVERAGE @ I just use PHOTOSHOP?

SHAZAM @ Watch the MAN-THING movie and come back LOL! : P
ROMACK
ROMACK - 5/25/2010, 3:02 PM
The Man-Thing movie was poorly done with a budget of $150 and a case of beer. Still Swamp thing is a much deeper character than Man-Thing. You could do a successful series of ST movies, but for MT to have a series you would need a better cast of supernatural characters. Like Morbius and the Midnight Sons.
cali00
cali00 - 5/25/2010, 6:06 PM
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altiusdirectory
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LibertySeaOtter
LibertySeaOtter - 5/26/2010, 6:18 AM
@jazzman

Okay apparently your not hearing me and talking to you is like talking to a guy with a screw driver through his eye so I'm done with this conversation.
ROMACK
ROMACK - 5/26/2010, 7:42 AM
Shazam@ Yeah with three giant schlongs hangin' off of his face Manthing looks pretty menacing!
jazenb
jazenb - 5/27/2010, 11:14 PM
swamp thing is an awful character...not worthy of another movie...
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