THOR: THE DARK WORLD: Alan Taylor Talks More Deleted Scenes And Potential Director's Cut

THOR: THE DARK WORLD: Alan Taylor Talks More Deleted Scenes And Potential Director's Cut

Potential spoilers afoot! From a love triangle, to character-building moments with Malekith, Thor: The Dark World's Alan Taylor discusses deletes scenes and implies that he'd be game for a director's cut!

By DCMarvelFreshman - Nov 07, 2013 06:11 AM EST
Filed Under: Thor
Source: CraveOnline

While Marvel's Thor: The Dark World has mostly been well-received, there are some reviews that criticize the sequel lacking character to the main baddie, Malekith the Accursed, as well as his motives. But according to The Dark World actor Christopher Eccleston and director Alan Taylor, there were a lot of character-building scenes filmed, but they evidently didn't make the final cut.

Speaking with CraveOnline, Eccleston discussed the initial conversations he had with Taylor and Marvel about his Dark Elf leader. “Well, the first conversation with Alan [Taylor] was about how he wanted to avoid “the cackling fiend.” Alan spoke to me a lot about the Dark Elves’ sense of their own gravitas and aristocracy, and their ancientness. He wanted them to have a sense of entitlement and bearing. He wanted them regal, you know, that they felt that they were the superior beings of the Nine Realms. And of course, as in any film, the script that we shot is not the script that people see. There were various scenes in there, which for whatever reason didn’t make the final cut, which shaded in Malekith’s background. So even though the audience don’t hear about it, I’m hoping that it’s still present in the performance.” About those deleted scenes, Eccleston explains, “There was a scene where Malekith was in a certain area of Svartalfheim and remembering his children, his wife and children bathing there, and they had been lost to him. And some of the actions of Odin’s father, Bor, also. There was an extended scene with Anthony Hopkins where they discussed what had caused this ancient grievance between The Dark Elves and themselves. That kind of material. More character-related, yeah.”

When CraveOnline spoke with Alan Taylor, the Thor: The Dark World helmer was asked about the deleted scenes that Eccleston mentioned, and if there will be a director's cut. “Wouldn’t that be great? [Laughs] Maybe if you start the lobbying right now you can build up enough demand that Marvel will have to respond. I think it’s always the case with these big movies that that happens, and it’s painful to me because I absolutely love, love, love, love a lot of the stuff that fell by the wayside. Some of it was Malekith. You saw a lot more into the relationship between him and Algrim. You saw a lot more of what was driving him personally. And as I mentioned already there was a lot more with the kids, you saw them explore these fantastical events that were going on.” Alan Taylor added, “Yeah, that’s excruciating. Whether it’s whole scenes that are dropped or whether it’s beats or lines or moments that fall away in the drive to make it faster, tighter, funnier, quicker, more efficient, so yeah, that’s the excruciating thing. I think if there was a director’s cut it would be that much different. Maybe someday. Maybe someday if I become such a huge success later on in life I can come back and do it.”

On another note, Alan Taylor was also questioned about developing a potential love triangle between Thor, Jane Foster, and Sif in the Marvel sequel. “No. I think always that’s there, in the comic mythology, and it gets really complicated in the Norse mythology. [Laughs] The trouble is there’s never quite enough time to serve all these things, but I try to gesture towards it a few times. I think Jaimie Alexander does wonderful job in the scene where you can tell she’s trying to advise Thor how to be a good king, but really she’s just speaking out of jealous. That’s outside the pub. That’s a nice moment. And there’s a tiny glance that I thought was really wonderful between her and Jane, where they’re sort of sizing each other up. The only finish to that is that she’s the one who stays behind to hold the guards back as Thor runs away with Jane. That’s the beat in that arc that’s very brief out of necessity in the scale of things. I think Sif’s not going anywhere. There may be another chance to explore that.”

What do you think? Anyhow, be sure to read the great interview in its entirety over at CraveOnline!


Marvel’s “Thor: The Dark World” continues the big-screen adventures of Thor, the Mighty Avenger, as he battles to save Earth and all the Nine Realms from a shadowy enemy that predates the universe itself. In the aftermath of Marvel’s “Thor” and “Marvel’s The Avengers,” Thor fights to restore order across the cosmos…but an ancient race led by the vengeful Malekith returns to plunge the universe back into darkness. Faced with an enemy that even Odin and Asgard cannot withstand, Thor must embark on his most perilous and personal journey yet, one that will reunite him with Jane Foster and force him to sacrifice everything to save us all. Starring Starring Chris Hemsworth, Natalie Portman, Tom Hiddleston, Stellan Skarsgård, Idris Elba, Christopher Eccleston, Adewale Akinnuoye-Agbaje, Kat Dennings, Ray Stevenson, Zachary Levi, Tadanobu Asano and Jaimie Alexander with Rene Russo and Anthony Hopkins as Odin, “Thor: The Dark World” is directed by Alan Taylor. The film is produced by Kevin Feige, while executive producers are Louis D’Esposito, Alan Fine, Stan Lee, Victoria Alonso, Craig Kyle and Nigel Gostelow. Distributed by Walt Disney Studios Motion Pictures, Thor: The Dark World opens in theaters on November 8, 2013.

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ezio619
ezio619 - 11/7/2013, 7:20 AM
i want a directors cut now ,man i wished we had the scenes with malekith,would have fleshed him out more and the odin scene but hopefully, the film is good enough without those and now begin the marvel studios bashing for cuting these scenes in favor of morehumor,same BS everyday
shadow1460
shadow1460 - 11/7/2013, 7:26 AM
Well, we'll, well what do you they did have character development for malelkith this is so stupid wtf is wrong with fiege man iron man 3 was 2:20 mins why didn't they let Thor be like that because of the cut this film is getting bashed you know alan taylor may have denied this rumor in the past but I'm starting to think that feud between him and fiege over not letting Alan release a two and a half hour film was true big letdown man
MrCBM56
MrCBM56 - 11/7/2013, 7:30 AM
Man, I feel bad for Taylor. Wtf marvel? Those deleted scenes sound awesome. Aw, too bad.
StatenMan18
StatenMan18 - 11/7/2013, 8:19 AM
Man this is bs with them cutting back. Nothing wrong with a 2 + hour movie, especially if it had more character development to bring. I haven't seen thor yet but after reading this it'll be hard to say all these nice things if in fact it had a lot more to offer
masterhater
masterhater - 11/7/2013, 8:21 AM
Directors cut please!!!!!!
Geotheleo
Geotheleo - 11/7/2013, 8:42 AM
Bad move Marvel, should have kept the shots...
StatenMan18
StatenMan18 - 11/7/2013, 9:03 AM
Well who can blame him for not being entirely happy, sure he won't talk majorly bad but if he feels key parts were cut, then in his mind those shots would've told the final story better, compared to what were getting on screen.
RamonSuarez
RamonSuarez - 11/7/2013, 9:08 AM
Feige's editorial decisions disturb me dating back to his decision to chop 15 minutes from the Incredible Hulk. I don't get how he thinks these types of revisions improve the Marvel brand.
write33
write33 - 11/7/2013, 9:28 AM
you know, Marvel movies make tons of money and more or less even do fairly well critically........so it's hard to argue with the 100's of decisions they have to make.....but these edits in particular sound very unfortunate; I hope Marvel does a Director's Cut for once. I'd buy it.
SpideyQuad
SpideyQuad - 11/7/2013, 9:46 AM
We need one of the more industrialists nerds to start a petition online on one of those petition websites. Then come back here and post the link, so the older nerds like Gusto and myself can sign it.
TheLokey1
TheLokey1 - 11/7/2013, 9:48 AM
I would much prefer directors cuts on marvel blu rays instead of one shots, Marvel please make this happen
StatenMan18
StatenMan18 - 11/7/2013, 9:55 AM
Well.. At least the wolverine will be getting a directors cut
TheWolverine08
TheWolverine08 - 11/7/2013, 10:03 AM
Pretty horrible trolling Desrow.
BritishMonkey
BritishMonkey - 11/7/2013, 10:06 AM
It is sounding more like they cut away quite a lot of good stuff from this.
There really should be a director's cut. Make it so.
ChanchoMcGrady
ChanchoMcGrady - 11/7/2013, 10:15 AM
DIRECTOR'S CUT PLEASE!!!
ChanchoMcGrady
ChanchoMcGrady - 11/7/2013, 10:17 AM
@Desrow
Stop trolling dude. TDW is at 71% right now.
Lancer1
Lancer1 - 11/7/2013, 10:19 AM
You know what..i've just saw the movie...before I tell you how it was you should know that thor is my favourite avenger in the mcu since spider-man is not an avenger anymore..However the movie was great 8.3/10 for me the first scene was very good and the battle in the elf's world (whatever the name is) was wonderful alittle bit short but effective. ..thor felt more powerful in this movie but I wasn't satisfied ...there wasn't enough flying and hammering ..but there were pretty good stuff ...malekieth was good villain and kurse was very strong and badass..well loki was loki but this time he shined even better ...the film was amazing and Alan did very good job and he was even better than kenneth by miles especially in battle scenes...the only problem in the movie was the jokes and darcy scene ..l mean it was ever mor annoying here ..here scene and some with Natalie were very bad..I think those scenes were directed by Kevin fiege ...I mean seriously they should stop this hummer thing it is getting worse and ruining the movie experience. ..this movie could've been easly the best marvel solo film ...I don't know the movie would havr been perfect just if these stuiped scenes were replaced by dramatic or even more epic battles
DutchMovieFan
DutchMovieFan - 11/7/2013, 10:25 AM
@Desrow Meanwhile, in the DCCU: Man of Steel, 56%
Burkem6
Burkem6 - 11/7/2013, 10:33 AM
lol sometimes i love this website. The same people saying critics are dumb are now using it as a reason to tear down thor lol.
chuckg313
chuckg313 - 11/7/2013, 10:36 AM
i want the directors cut...id prefer it over the version focusing on comedy but my gut feeling is fiege only wants the one that makes him blow snot bubbles cracking up available to the public.
chuckg313
chuckg313 - 11/7/2013, 10:38 AM
oh....agree 100% @TheUltimateSuperman92
CarlXVIGarfield
CarlXVIGarfield - 11/7/2013, 10:47 AM
@Desrow: We'll see where it ends, right now over all Thor is rating higher than MoS.

Oh and enjoy the MoS sequel, which is now a Batman movie ;)
ChanchoMcGrady
ChanchoMcGrady - 11/7/2013, 10:48 AM
@Desrow
"Top Critics" just means that they write for a recognized newspaper (or other media tool, like a journal). It doesn't mean that their opinions are any more valid. If anything, it probably just means they're more nitpicky, or they have a high opinion of themselves, and so they feel like they can say whatever they want and everyone has to accept it.

Besides, I form my own opinions, I don't JUST base them on critical reception. Sometimes critics are spot on with how I feel, but sometimes I disagree with them, and find myself in the 56% on Rotten Tomatoes that would've given a movie good reviews if I was a critic.
ChanchoMcGrady
ChanchoMcGrady - 11/7/2013, 10:52 AM
@Desrow
Also, a lot less people have reviewed Thor: TDW so far than did MoS.

And judge the movie for yourself! Then, if you still don't like it, don't be all "Well these statistics show that the majority of critics don't like it, which means you're wrong...", be more like "Well I thought that they did a bad job with ____, ____, and ____."
Lancer1
Lancer1 - 11/7/2013, 10:54 AM
Chuckg313@

Thanks man ...you know I am a marvel fan as much as DC they both make good movies but in thor's case we had the perfect director and it could have been the perfect movie....if Alan got the freedom...frick you fiege for ruining another movie...they should seriously fire his ass
ChanchoMcGrady
ChanchoMcGrady - 11/7/2013, 11:04 AM
@Desrow
Well I'm glad you liked it.
So...you posted the RT thing, not because you hated it, but because you feel like it would've gotten better reviews if they hadn't cut so much?
Original
Original - 11/7/2013, 11:32 AM
No deleted scenes for Thor The Dark World. Make this movie a COMPLETE movie. Personally, I'm a BIG fan of action packed movies, but Joseph Michael Straczynski did showed me that GREAT storytelling can sell a lot- not just in TV Episodes like Babyon 5, but in the Thor comics as well. Then, why not combined the two aspects to make it EXTRA SPECIAL? Make it happen Marvel!!! NOW!!!
Humperdink
Humperdink - 11/7/2013, 11:52 AM
Thor: The Dark world was not good. It was barely 'ok'. It's a bad sign when you lose attention early on in the film and start thinking about life outside the theater.

It was honestly rather boring with a few cool scenes, a lot of bad humor, and under-developed villains.

I thought the first one was decent, but the second doesn't even compare to it.

Why oh why did they not explore who the hell Malekith actually was?

He was simply a 'bad guy doing bad things'. That's not enough. That's such an over-simplification. Even Thor seemed dull in this one. You can flash his abs 100 times and it won't change the fact that he's 1-dimensional.

Marvel needs to shape up it's movies and TV shows.
Stop coddling the audience with this Disney/Family friendly approach that sucks the depth out of the films and shows.

Agents of SHIELD could have been like the X-files of the comic world, but instead we got goofy trash and a bunch of unlikable and extremely forgettable characters.

It's a shame they use humor to trump tension.

P.S. I could have lived without seeing Selvig fully naked and running around like the Nutty Professor. Not very funny. Kind of weird.
Humperdink
Humperdink - 11/7/2013, 12:03 PM
Oh and I can see why the Director wanted no part of that mid credit scene.

From poor acting to dated costumes and makeup, it was straight up 'Batman and Robin' material.

I think this director is not happy with what Marvel did to 'fix' this film.
2gold
2gold - 11/7/2013, 12:11 PM
I'm now wondering what the deleted scenes did to the pacing of the film. I've seen a LOT of really great deleted scenes on movies that I see why they had to dump them out and it's a terrible shame they had too.

I'm curious though, if the scenes fit and didn't hurt the pace, then the decision to cut them is incredibly stupid and a major mistake. If they feel like they just toss the pace off, I can be angry good scenes (if they are) get left out but understand why it happened.

Case in point: Hulk talking to the dude from ALIEN in The Avengers. Solid scene, added so much depth, but would have been a total pace killer.
BigChuter
BigChuter - 11/7/2013, 12:16 PM
I think Alan Taylor is so far the only marvel director who's indicated an interest in doing an extended cut, and that the film would benefit from it. I would really like there to be some sort of way of improving the odds of getting one. well, I havent seen it yet, but it does sound like malekith doesn't come across as a well developed villain in the theatrical version. someone make a petition or something and sign it under at least 10 pseudonyms per person.
patriautism
patriautism - 11/7/2013, 12:52 PM
No surprise, after all the reports of Marvel making him shorten the movie.
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