THUNDERBOLTS: 7 New And Returning Marvel Villains Who Should Be The Movie's Big Bad

THUNDERBOLTS: 7 New And Returning Marvel Villains Who Should Be The Movie's Big Bad

Marvel Studios revealed the Thunderbolts roster at D23, but who is this team assembling to take down? We have some ideas, and while a few already inhabit the MCU, others would be exciting new additions!

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By JoshWilding - Sep 15, 2022 12:09 PM EST
Filed Under: Thunderbolts

Marvel Studios' Thunderbolts has been a major talking point this week, primarily because the team itself was revealed during D23 on Saturday. Led by Valentina Allegra de Fontaine, the group will consist of Yelena Belova, Bucky Barnes, U.S. Agent, Red Guardian, Ghost, and Taskmaster.

It's an impressive lineup, though perhaps not what a lot of fans were expecting or hoping for. 

More anti-heroes than full-blown villains, the MCU's Thunderbolts will clearly be quite a bit different from what we're used to seeing in the comic books. That's not necessarily a bad thing, of course, though there's no denying that the team boasts a lot of Super Soldiers. Still, they're a formidable group and we can't help but wonder who they're assembling to go up against. 

With that in mind, we've compiled a pretty awesome list of bad guys who could give the Thunderbolts a hard time in 2024. Some have already appeared in the MCU, while others would be new additions to this shared world.

Find out who made the cut by clicking on the "Next" button below!
 

7. Sin

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Sin is the Red Skull's daughter and every bit as twisted as her father. Like The Winter Soldier, she was reprogrammed, albeit by S.H.I.E.L.D. rather than HYDRA. Eventually, her true nature replaced the "normal" American girl everyone else saw her as, and she made the Marvel Universe pay in a big way. 

In the MCU, Sin would obviously have to be the Red Skull's granddaughter or great-granddaughter. However, the Super Soldier Serum that hideously deformed him could quite easily have passed down to her, making Sin - and whatever twisted plan she has in store - a real threat to the Thunderbolts. 

With a former Captain America, the real Captain America's sidekick, and Russia's own Captain America (Red Guardian) on this team, who better to pit them against than a Nazi?
 

6. Blackheart

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We were tempted to put Mephisto here because, at this point, the villain has basically become a meme. After those hints in WandaVision went nowhere, fans are constantly on the lookout for the MCU's devil, with will theories even placing him in the likes of Loki and Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness to no avail.

Something tells us we will see him eventually, but he's far too powerful for this team of Thunderbolts. 

Instead, why not start with his son, Blackheart? Determined to usurp his father, the villain has taken aim at the likes of Spider-Man and Daredevil over the years and would be a perfect choice to use this movie as an excuse to throw Ghost Rider into the mix. While powerful, he's probably on the right power level to make him a realistic choice of foe for Yelena and company. 
 

5. Scarlet Witch

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Sticking with the supernatural side of the MCU for a moment, why not have the Scarlet Witch make her grand return in Thunderbolts? It's pretty obvious she didn't actually die in the closing moments of the Doctor Strange sequel, but what would Val want with Wanda Maximoff?

Well, she's bound to be a wanted felon after what happened in Westview, while the government now also knows about her power to reshape reality itself. Even without knowing what went down with the Darkhold, that makes her a threat to the world, and Val creating a team of "Avengers" who don't have a history with Wanda to take her down does add up. 

She may even have her own nefarious reasons for targeting the Scarlet Witch. After all, we're sure the U.S. Government would love to make those powers their own. Plus, if this leads to White Vision joining the team, it would be a win for fans. 
 

4. M.O.D.O.K.

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Ant-Man and The Wasp: Quantumania is set to introduce M.O.D.O.K., and based on what little we know about the threequel, it will be Corey Stoll's Darren Cross who is transformed into that villain. 

After what happened to him in Ant-Man, we probably shouldn't be too surprised, and it looks like the MCU's take on this character will be mostly cybernetic (a shame in some ways, but it makes more sense for Yellowjacket's deformed body to be housed like that rather than Cross returning with a massive head). 

Assuming he escapes the Quantum Realm, then we'd say him immediately making trouble in the MCU will tee M.O.D.O.K. up as a great choice of foe for Val and her team. It's hard to say what he'd be up to without seeing him in action next year, but it would be suitable evil, we're sure. 
 

3. Mister Hyde

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Yes, we know a Variant of this character appeared in Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D., but c'mon, the ABC series didn't exactly do 'ol Dr. Calvin Zabo justice. After creating a formula that transformed him into a Hulk-like monster, the Marvel Universe got its own Jekyll and Hyde, hence why the unhinged villain took on the Mr. Hyde moniker.

In the MCU, we're sure his origin could be tied into the Super Soldier Program, perhaps explaining why this team of Thunderbolts looks the way it does. It's also worth noting that he has a history with them on the page. 

Why else would he a be good choice for this project? Well, just like in the aforementioned TV series, his comic book counterpart is also Daisy Johnson's father. That could mean Chloe Bennet finally getting the opportunity to return as Quake, albeit on the big screen this time!
 

2. Baron Zemo

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One of the biggest complaints coming out of D23 is that there's no sign of Zemo on this team. The Falcon and The Winter Soldier kind of killed the chances of that happening when he as put back behind bars, of course, and as this is a team of heroes...well, what would Zemo be doing there?

Yes, he's a formidable fighter and a very clever guy, but he hates The Avengers and Super Soldiers. Despite that, we're confident he could factor into this movie as someone pulling the strings from the shadows or as the outright villain who the team is assembled to deal with. 

He'll need some backup, of course, and we'd actually like to see him put together his own team more akin to what we've seen from the Thunderbolts in the comic books. That could make this movie a little too busy, but there has to be a place for Zemo given his storied history with this team. 
 

1. Red Hulk

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Actor William Hurt has sadly passed away, and we have to believe that there were probably once plans for his character, General "Thunderbolt" Ross, to be part of this movie. 

As it stands, we can picture Val telling these heroes that their team is named after him following his in-universe demise, but if the Red Hulk comes into play, that's where things could get really interesting. The group finding out that the Hulk they're pursuing is, in fact, an out-of-control and out-of-his-mind Ross would be a killer twist and a way to write Hurt out of the MCU. 

While we'd have loved to see the actor lend his voice and personality to the villain, making him a seemingly unstoppable monster who needs to be put down would end Ross' story in a unique way. It would also expose Val as a liar and someone who has assembled these Super Soldiers because she's among those trying to create new ones. 
 

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JobinJ
JobinJ - 9/15/2022, 12:39 PM
Scarlet Witch is dead leave her dead.
MrDandy
MrDandy - 9/15/2022, 12:49 PM
@JobinJ - lol. Scarlet Witch is definitely not dead.
Antitrollpatrol
Antitrollpatrol - 9/15/2022, 6:07 PM
@JobinJ - even if they brought her back for this it would feel like a blatant rip-off of the original suicide squad.
JobinJ
JobinJ - 9/16/2022, 10:50 AM
@MrDandy - she should be she was terrible and evil and murdered many. This schlock of no one ever does in Marcel movies is stupid and makes the movies have ZERO RISK. Even if she comes back as a variant. It’s stupid.
Goldboink
Goldboink - 9/15/2022, 12:40 PM
None of the above.
thewanderer
thewanderer - 9/15/2022, 1:05 PM
@Goldboink - yea, with this lineup it's not going to be anyone mystical/magical, and it's certainly not going to be Red Hulk or Abomination.

This is going to be a Black Ops style movie like Captain America: Winter Soldier.
Goldboink
Goldboink - 9/15/2022, 1:07 PM
@thewanderer -
Absolutely. And it won't go well is my opinion which will lead to the Avengers being needed but with no Cap and no IM and Fury likely a Skrull or some such who's going to get them together is the big question.
thewanderer
thewanderer - 9/15/2022, 1:13 PM
@Goldboink - I'm not sure who is going to get them together, but I"m loving that we are starting to see the throughline connecting some of the projects. There definitely seems to be a narrative thread forming among the following projects

Falcon and the Winter Soldier
She-Hulk
Wakanda Forever
Secret Invasion
Captain America: A New World Order
Thunderbolts
Ironheart
Armor Wars
thewanderer
thewanderer - 9/15/2022, 1:27 PM
@thewanderer - I should have added Black Widow on this list too.
TheGrayGhost
TheGrayGhost - 9/15/2022, 12:49 PM
Seeing what Wanda did to the 838 Illuminati, I'm not sure these Thunderbolts should be the group sent looking for her

thewanderer
thewanderer - 9/15/2022, 1:05 PM
@TheGrayGhost - Wanda being the villain is just a ridiculous idea.
TheGrayGhost
TheGrayGhost - 9/15/2022, 1:27 PM
@thewanderer - Yes, yes it is
Spike101
Spike101 - 9/15/2022, 1:28 PM
@TheGrayGhost - perfect 👍
marvel72
marvel72 - 9/15/2022, 4:42 PM
@TheGrayGhost - I totally agree.

Scarlet Witch would takes these knob jockeys out in seconds.
GhostDog
GhostDog - 9/15/2022, 12:50 PM
The Raft Breakout was a fun story. Songbird, Luke Cage, and John Walker each had to deal with the inmates looking to escape.
thewanderer
thewanderer - 9/15/2022, 1:06 PM
@GhostDog - I don't think it will happen here, but I really want to see the MCU do a take on a prison break, but our protagonists are the prisoners.
GhostDog
GhostDog - 9/15/2022, 1:24 PM
@thewanderer - I really wanted an Amt-Man prison break kind of film.



The Mad Thinker orchestrated a covert prison break with the aid of several other villian inmates utilizing the facility's reducing gas. After that, Pym made another shuriken prison.
WakandaTech
WakandaTech - 9/15/2022, 12:51 PM
2022

HYPED

Black Panther Wakanda Forever

HARD PASS

Warewolf by Night


2023

HYPED

Secret Invasion
Echo
Loki s2
Blade
Iron Heart

HARD PASS

Antman & Wasp:Quantamania
Guardians of the Galaxy vol 3
The Marvels

2024

HYPED

Daredevil Born Again
Captain America : New World Order
Thunderbolts
Armor Wars
Midnight Angels (Wakanda)

HARD PASS

Agatha Coven of Chaos
Deadpool 3
Fantastic Four
MrDandy
MrDandy - 9/15/2022, 1:25 PM
@WakandaTech -

Hyped:
Black Panther: Wakanda Forever
Loki S2
Blade
Guardians of the Galaxy Vol 3
Daredevil Born Again
Fantastic Four
Avengers: Kang Dynasty
Avengers: Secret Wars

Interested:
Warewolf by Night
The Marvels
Secret Invasion
Quantumania
Captain America: New World Order
Armor Wars
Deadpool 3

Couldn’t Care Less About (For Now)
Echo
Iron Heart
Thunderbolts
Agatha: Coven of Chaos
IronGenesis
IronGenesis - 9/15/2022, 12:58 PM
Why not recast General Ross?
Vigor
Vigor - 9/15/2022, 12:58 PM
@IronGenesis - no
IronGenesis
IronGenesis - 9/15/2022, 1:00 PM
@Vigor - why?

William Hurt was a actor of the stage. He would understand.
Vigor
Vigor - 9/15/2022, 1:23 PM
@IronGenesis - I prefer when they weave the passing of an actor into the mcu narrative. Boseman died, tchala died. Torch is passed. Same can apply here
TheRose
TheRose - 9/15/2022, 1:01 PM
"Yes, we know a Variant of this character appeared in Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D., but c'mon, the ABC series didn't exactly do 'ol Dr. Calvin Zabo justice."

Nope, no justice at all. Agents of Shield made the normally C-List Mr. Hyde into a compelling character. God forbid.
Vigor
Vigor - 9/15/2022, 1:02 PM
I didn't think of it before, but this article definitely has me hoping for a red hulk as a villain appearance. Of course this team has no chance of stopping red hulk without abomination lending a hand.

And with hulk off world and she hulk dealing with whatever "falcons team" is handling, it would be up to the thunderbolts
cocaegelo
cocaegelo - 9/15/2022, 1:22 PM
I would like to see Syn and the Serpent Society, but Syn without Crossbones is a little bittersweet :~
marvel72
marvel72 - 9/15/2022, 1:39 PM
Can't recast Ross if you can't recast T"Challa.
TheWalkingCuban
TheWalkingCuban - 9/15/2022, 2:36 PM
@marvel72 - Recast Ross as T’Challa
marvel72
marvel72 - 9/15/2022, 4:40 PM
@TheWalkingCuban - I'm up for that,I want to see the outrage at casting a white man as a Black character.
TheWalkingCuban
TheWalkingCuban - 9/15/2022, 5:00 PM
@marvel72 - I meant old for young
“Back Pain-ther”
Chewtoy
Chewtoy - 9/15/2022, 1:41 PM
The Thunderbolts name originally had nothing to do with General Ross, and did the William Hurt character ever have the nickname “Thunderbolt” in the MCU?

It’s weird to me that so many people assume he definitely was going to be a major part of this film.
TheWalkingCuban
TheWalkingCuban - 9/15/2022, 2:39 PM
@Chewtoy - “why that name?”
“Uhhh, Zeus? Yeah Zeus”
“I don’t see the connec-
“ITS ALL CONNECTED”
Jayman627
Jayman627 - 9/15/2022, 1:56 PM
Hmm I’m not sure if they would do Scarlet Witch, just because that might be too close to Enchantress as the villain for Suicide Squad? I feel like they’ll go for a more intellectual villain, so I’m leaning towards someone like Zemo?
Ha1frican
Ha1frican - 9/15/2022, 2:00 PM
If they did Scarlet Witch (which I don’t think they will do) it would be almost exactly the same movie as the first Suicide Squad, make it someone who is a more grounded threat. Make it Zemo or something like that. For one dude dude on the Avengers and basically won so he’s definitely enough of a threat and two a tone and scope similar to Winter Soldier would be exactly what this movie needs.
Blastaar
Blastaar - 9/15/2022, 2:07 PM
#1 PLEASE remove TRASHMASTER from this team, and from the MCU all together.
#2 Winter Soldier and U.S. Agent should NOT be on this team.
Everybody else can stay but there needs to be a BIG brawler type Abomination/Red Hulk and there NEEDS to be a supernatural character on this team like Bobby Reyes "Ghostrider" or another supernatural type character.
MaxPaint
MaxPaint - 9/15/2022, 2:28 PM
@Blastaar - Looks like Thunderbolts will need some...MORBIN' TIME!
Blastaar
Blastaar - 9/15/2022, 3:07 PM
@MaxPaint - ?
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