2016/17 – Marvel/DC TV: 10 Best Hits, 10 Worst Misses

2016/17 – Marvel/DC TV: 10 Best Hits, 10 Worst Misses

Well, the 2016-17 TV Season is almost finished, and what a crazy year it was. Marvel and DC had no less than 10 TV shows grace out TV screens and streaming services. A lot of it was fantastic, but not all.

Editorial Opinion
By ossie85 - May 25, 2017 11:05 AM EST
Filed Under: Marvel


SPOILERS Ahead. Obviously.

So these aren’t ‘the best 10 episodes’ or the ‘best shows ever’, more just notable things that happened during the TV season. I've only included Mainstream Marvel and DC properties - sorry Preacher/Lucifer.

Note: Gotham is still running – so it still has chance to be amazing or terrible!

10 Best Wins – What Was Great

In no particular order

Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. Does 3 Pods - Could have each of these pods as 1 thing. From the surprising addition and well executed Ghost Rider (well done Gabriel Luna), to the tense LMD infiltration, and finally the ‘what if’ world of the Framework. Of Particular note, the role reversal of Ward/Fitz was a brilliant piece of writing.



Mallory Jansen’s Aida
– The relatively unknown Australian actress Mallory Jansen started off as a just a shell robot, and slowly but surely became an ever increasing threat to our favourite Agents. Jansen played no less than 4 characters (Aida, Agnes, Madame Hydra, Ophelia). A powerhouse performance.

Alex/Sawyer Relationship & Supergirl Analogies – I’m not into OTPs or Shipping, but I was impressed with how well Supergirl handled the Alex/Sawyer relationship. One of the major criticisms of the first season of Supergirl was its habit of ‘telling’ us about girl power, instead of showing us (think Buffy: The Vampire Slayer). But generally, Supergirl this season decided to SHOW us its analogies – from girl power to migration, the show had something to say, and it said it well.



Tyler Hoechlin’s Superman – I don’t think anyone really expected this, but Tyler Hoechlin and Supergirl NAILED Superman. He was the perfect amount of optimism and old-time charm, which contrasted sharply to Henry Cavill’s Superman. The suit looked great! Well, for TV anyway.

Gotham’s Joker Episodes – Cameron Monaghan channelled Heath Ledger, and came up with a chilling and entertaining performance as Gotham’s version of the Joker (I don’t care what they say, he was the Joker). The battle between the Joker and baby Batman was genuinely compelling, and gave me hope for the series!



Legion’s Visual Storytelling & Aubrey Plaza – Noah Hawley created a visual masterpiece, straight from the pages of comics, and I adored it. The episodes was challenging, confronting, compelling and entertaining. Dan Stevens was fantastic, but the show’s visuals were complimented by the exceptional Aubrey Plaza. Plaza essentially played multiple characters, and was a great representation of the threat they were facing.

Arrow Returns to Form – Before the season started, I was kind of only watching Arrow out of habit. But the strong premiere, new characters and the ‘back to basics’ format really gave Arrow that new breath of life. Amell was strong and the villain Prometheus threatening, I was particularly impressed by ‘Kapiushon’, a very focused episode. And the season finale might have been Arrow's best episode ever.



The Flash Musical – I had trepidations going into this episode, and I like musicals! I wasn’t sure that The Flash could pull it off. And you know what? They made a lot of errors, and a lot of strange choices, but I STILL loved it. And when Barry sung to Iris at the end? That got me. Also, Iris was such an improved character this year.

Mahershala Ali’s Cottonmouth – Cottonmouth was a fantastic character, and Ali’s portrayal of him really on point. Not much more to say, except I was said to see him going so early.



Luke Cage Tackles Issue of Race – Opinions were divided on Luke Cage. I for one, thought it was far more good than bad. I loved the bookend scenes in Episode 2, with Luke having a gun to his head. I loved the music, and the general vibe of the show. I loved the symbolism of the show. And I loved that this show had something to say.
 
10 Worst Losses – What Missed

In no particular order

DC’s “4-Episode” Crossover – Don’t get me wrong, there were certain parts of this crossover I liked, and some I loved. Arrow’s 100th episode was great, the training scenes were really fun. BUT, ultimately, I was very disappointed. For starters, the Supergirl episode wasn’t really part of it. There wasn’t really any flow between each of the 4 individual episodes. But most crucially, there were no consequences from the special. HUGE world event, and barely mentioned since. Ultimately, feels like a fluff episode.



Bruce Wayne Doppelganger – Ugh. I just roll my eyes everytime the Bruce double is on the screen. I hate it, and its irritating.

Aimless Penguin – Robin Lord Taylor’s Penguin is the best part of Gotham for me. But lately, I’ve felt that they are just making stupid dramas for the sake of stupid dramas. I initially thought I’d love the Penguin/Riddler love story, but it turned into another cliché ‘gays turn evil’ storyline, and just caused distraction. The inexplicable double of Riddler's girlfriend Penguin killed? I still don’t understand how that ‘coincidence’ was allowed.

Tearing Down Barry Allen’s Character – From the beginning of the season, The Flash has been determined to make Barry Allen an unlikeable character. “Flashpoint”, despite being a little underwhelming itself, was Barry making the same mistake again and failing to learn from other incidents in the show (something he again ignored when he went back in time to get Captain Cold). But going to the future, and seeing that the Barry had given up on his friends and family? The reveal that the main villain was Barry gone evil cos his friends weren’t nice to him? In my opinion, they’ve turned him into a selfish sociopath. Harsh, and I hope its redeemed, but a hero is defined by his choices, and he keeps choosing poorly. Hell, he usually only does good things after a pep talk from a father figure.



Speedster and Villain Secret Identity Fatigue – As much as I enjoyed Prometheus, the secret identity of the villain was drawn out, and the reveal was underwhelming (it was the new character! Shock!). Combined with Savitar, we had another drawn out villain reveal which became predictable. And what were the writers thinking making a Speedster the villain the 3rd season in a row?

Legends of Tomorrow Final Episodes – I know a lot of people are really enjoying Legends. And I like it also. But I hated the 2 part season finale. It broke so many rules of storytelling, made the heroes impotent, the villains moronic and treated the viewers stupidly. Starting the episode with Arrow/Flash and co dead? That immediately erases all stakes of the episode, as anyone would realise they would never kill off those characters off screen on a different show. The only reason the heroes were alive were because Reverse Flash made the non-sensical decision of keeping them alive because… I don’t know why! You’d think Reverse Flash would want to torture Barry also, but no, these characters he barely knows apparently meant more to him. The heroes only get on top of Reverse Flash because he let them, not because of any individual choice they made. And the weird and convenient way of one of each version of the heroes dying? Gargh.

Erik LaRay Harvey’s Diamondback – Even without following from the shadows of Cottonmouth, Diamonback would have been underwhelming. It was a little bit of stretch to make Luke and Diamondback brothers, and this apparent mastermind came across as irrational cartoon. I still enjoyed Luke Cage, and I think Diamondback could have been done better.

Finn Jones’ “I am the Iron Fist” – I liked Iron Fist, quite a bit at times. I thought it was compelling, and I generally liked the storylines. I had two complaints – I thought the show looked cheap at times, and Finn Jones saying ‘I am the Iron Fist’ every other sentence really put me off side. I don’t think Finn Jones was terrible, but some of the choices made on his portrayal left a lot to be desired. Particularly in later episodes.



Powerless Humourless – I thought Vanessa Hudgens was great in this. I was hopeful that Alan Tudyk and Danny Pudi would be great. But I didn’t like this show. This show had to be at least geeky or funny (preferably both), and they missed on both accounts.



Marvel TV moving away from Marvel Movies – The 4th season of Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. was the first season to not have any characters from the movies (other than Coulson). Luke Cage had a little MCU continuity error through references to Barack Obama (who shouldn’t really exist in this world). And the Sokovia accords, while a plot point on S.H.I.E.L.D., don’t seem to be making their way to Netflix. Plus Inhumans now getting a TV show (which I’m excited for), lessens the importance of S.H.I.E.L.D. introducing them in season 2.



So, those are my thoughts. I'm sure people will disagree!

 

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WYLEEJAY
WYLEEJAY - 5/25/2017, 1:17 PM
"Gays turn evil"? Hope thats a typo...
ossie85
ossie85 - 5/25/2017, 1:37 PM
@WYLEEJAY - No, it's actually a thing throughout fiction. A horrible cliche where a gay character will inevitably turn evil. I despise it
WYLEEJAY
WYLEEJAY - 5/25/2017, 4:01 PM
@ossie85 - Lol. I thought you meant guys turn evil. My bad.
ThouBear8
ThouBear8 - 5/26/2017, 6:17 PM
I agree with most of what you said. In particular, your issues with Gotham & Legends of Tomorrow. It blows my mind that people were raving about how good the Legends finale was. I was like, "did we even watch the same show?". You laid out exactly what problems I had with it. & I think your criticism of the Bruce clone & aimless Penguin/Riddler romance/revenge stories are accurate as well.

I don't watch Supergirl (or Arrow this season), but most of the other stuff I think you had pretty spot on. Agents of Shield was fantastic this season, & I honestly never expected to enjoy it that much. Each arc was compelling & powerful, delivering good action, consistently solid writing, & exceptional performances from the actors (a couple of them in particular). I think it gets the crown this year of best comic book show, & I don't think it's that close.
ossie85
ossie85 - 5/26/2017, 11:52 PM
@ThouBear8 - Yeah, I enjoy Legends, but I really don't see how people look past its faults.

I give Legion the edge over S.H.I.E.L.D. as best comic book show this year, but it was pretty close.

Thanks for your reply!
ThouBear8
ThouBear8 - 5/27/2017, 1:05 PM
@ossie85 - ah, I haven't checked out Legion yet but I've heard really good things about it!
sikwon
sikwon - 5/28/2017, 8:22 PM
I thought AoS was excellent throughout. I loved the multiple storielines that were all held together by the Darkhold. They did a masterful job of tying into Dr. Strange throughout the season in subtleways, they really ran with that, to include Ghost Riders awesome exit at the end. I thought they laid out an excellent story telling template. When Arrow first came out, all of the flash backs to Olivers time on the island had a similar feel, it kept everything fresh. Like watching 2 shows at the same time. The flashbacks got a little stale after awhile but i think this AoS "pod" template should be what they do going forward. It worked out incredibly well. And I'm pretty sure they took their Q from the Netflix shows, like how DD was split almost in half dealing with the Punisher. Comic shows are taylor made for that sort of storytelling, it almost demands it.
JDL
JDL - 5/29/2017, 12:41 AM
I have problems with Marvel TV moving away from Marvel Movies –

>The 4th season of Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. was the first season to not have any >characters from the movies (other than Coulson).

None would have made sense unless it would have been to take back the Darkhold which they dealt with in a different, acceptable, way.

>Luke Cage had a little MCU continuity error through references to Barack Obama >(who shouldn’t really exist in this world). And the Sokovia accords, while a >plot point on S.H.I.E.L.D., don’t seem to be making their way to Netflix.

If the Sokovia Accords DID make an appearance on the Netflix shows it still would not have have involved SHIELD. They don't enforce them. My guess is that after the Avengers disintegrated there wasn't anybody to enforce them other than Stark, the Vision, or the Armed Forces. To be blunt unless you are causing serious problems it's going to be a long time before they come for you. The NYC don't meet that test.

>Plus Inhumans now getting a TV show (which I’m excited for),

Agreed.

>lessens the importance of S.H.I.E.L.D. introducing them in season 2.

Disagree. They have less setup/explaining to do now. Mo' betta imnsho.
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