AGATHA: DARKHOLD DIARIES First Look Features Harkness' New Costume, Joe Locke's Character, & More

@JobinJ - Looks like it could be fun but then I try to judge after I've seen it.

As long as they get more realistic about D+ and what it can and can not deliver these shows will be fine. Also it's becomoing clear that will be more detached fronm the movies so that they won't be considered 'required viewing' as some feel that have been.

@BraxtonHicks - The reason for any show on a streaming platform is the vast need for new content, idealy with brand appeal and a connected universe in a big brand like Star Wars or Marvel were perfect for that to fast track D+ to gain a strong foothold dominated by Netflix still with Amazon in close second. In regard to films and MCU specificaly what is the point of creating a cinematic universe if you only ever stick to three characters so as much reason to do Eternals and Shang-Chi as there was for GotG, Antman, Dr Strange etc etc.

VERY specific to the Marvels, a film that made as much as Captain Marvel did was always going to get a sequel regardless what factors led to it's ticket sales. As to fair critiues of it not being called Captain Marvel 2 and specifics of the plot etc that is a whole other thing :D

Folk need to make their mind up too if they want the TV stuff required viewing or not as nothing wrong with having stuff in universe not forwarding the plot of the film arc like the Netfli Marvel stuff was loosely alon with shows more closely connected but still not pushing the infinity plot like AoS and Agent Carter.

We also don't know if, where or how stuff could play into anything yet as there was no sign Antman was part of the Thanos plot and other than featuring one infinity stone no obvious way GotG would join forces with the Avengers either...

Where's the new ideas is the most questionable point, may not have worked out as intended but phase four and five have been WAY more diverse in tone and plot than the infinity saga was. Where in the infinity arc is ANYTHING like WandaVision or Moonknight, in fact in differing ways every single examle you listed were vastly different in so many ways to all that went before in the MCU which is kinda the definition of new ideas.

Fair to call out flaws and weigh in if they didn't work for you or consider them poor quality and all that but on the specific points of the why and where...

@JobinJ -

@Apophis71 - there's no point in an overarching plot if each story doesn't progress the arch toward the conclusion.

Iron man, Thor, Hulk, Capt America = Avengers.
Subsequent phases = Infinity War/ Endgame.
Antman is an outlier, single outlier toward Infinity War/Endgame.
Now how many outliers do we have?

Sure She-Hulk, Moonknight, Marvel's, Shang-Chi= New Avengers?

Ms Marvel, Bishop, Cassie, Wiccan, Speed = Young Avengers?

US Agent, Valentina, Ghost, Yelena = Thunderbolts?

Overall arching is what, Kang? These are instructions to new people with nothing moving the overall plot besides maybe 3 new team ups. Maybe?

@marvel72 - What have you been smoking and where can I get some?

@RolandD -

@JobinJ - A cell phone video of a TV screen showing behind the scenes footage might not represent the look of the finished product particularly well.

@Origame - I never figured out why Marvel Studios took a stalwart FF protagonist and supporting character like Agatha Harkness and made her a villain. Katherine Hahn is terrific, but why could they have casted her into a comic accurate antagonist such as Morgan La Fay or Enchantress?

"Because this aint the comics and that canon is disposable if needed when adapting a character. Obvious;y they wamted a witch for the show and Agatha was as close (not very) as they could get." - @JDL

Why own a license just to stray so far away from the license? What is the point? Agatha Harkness...but is nothing like Agatha Harkness. Lex Luthor...but is nothing like Lex Luthor. Princess Zelda...you get the point.

Why do that?

You had a talking squirrel on screen. Someone like you would have defended a "creative" changing that talking squirrel into a human. There's always someone out there defending shitty-ass Hollywood ideas.

@GeneralZod and @Origame - y'all cool. 😎

@GeneralZod - Agatha was always a major part in the story related to the birth of the twins and Wanda coming to her full potential, sure they switched it around a lot but not like it was that random to include her in what they were going with...

...however the choices made, that she should be available for use possibly with F4, fully bringing in the twins sans Wanda in a place to do so and tying up loose ends/expanding on the magic corner of the MCU there is a decent bunch of reasons to go there with something like this.

Likely not going to be directly connecting to films or required viewing even if it does however so if no interest don't need to watch it and that is fine :D

@gmit92 - I think it's awesome that you're so excited for this. I'm not overly pumped for it, but Kathryn Hahn's performance in Wandavision alone merits giving this a chance imo.

At the very least, it should be a fun time. I do hope they'll stop changing the title of it tho. Feels like every time they mention it, it's being called something different.

@gmit92 - I’m not interested in this one bit. I’m not gay, but I don’t really think my sexuality impacts the movies and shows I watch. I’m guessing this will be more niche content than a universal hit.

@SonOfAGif - I don’t but I have watched female led projects like Wonder Woman, Mad Max Fury Road, Queens Gambit, and Silo. I really don’t care about the gender of the stars of a show or movie as much as the writing, story, acting and concepts. My wife doesn’t watch those shows either- although she does watch some stuff that tends to have a higher female audience like Sister Wives or murder documentaries.

I get that different genres appeal to different people. My initial comment was tied specifically to the MCU. They have had multiple projects more aimed at women, like this appears to, that haven’t faired well. Maybe they should put a smaller investment into them since they aren’t providing as big of a return.