AGATHA: DARKHOLD DIARIES Has Received Yet Another Title Change - Will This One Stick?

AGATHA: DARKHOLD DIARIES Has Received Yet Another Title Change - Will This One Stick? AGATHA: DARKHOLD DIARIES Has Received Yet Another Title Change - Will This One Stick?

We've started losing track of how many times Marvel Studios has changed Agatha's title, but a newly released logo for the Disney+ TV series confirms it may finally have a final moniker. Check it out...

By JoshWilding - Mar 12, 2024 09:03 AM EST
Filed Under: Agatha: Coven of Chaos

WandaVision spin-off Agatha: Darkhold Diaries has been through quite a few names. Now, though, it appears Marvel Studios has finally settled on simply Agatha

We'd expected this to be the case as it's long been rumoured that those subtitles will ultimately be used as episode titles, with the constant changes put down to the title character's chaotic nature. 

If so, that means we can expect "Agnes of Westview," "Coven of Chaos," "Darkhold Diaries," and "House of Harkness" to be used throughout the course of this six-episode series. It's a fun move on Marvel Studios' part, albeit one which would have been more impactful had the show not been hit by so many delays. 

On the plus side, we recently learned that Agatha required only one day of reshoots. 

"I wish I could tell you anything. I can tell you that it's pretty fan- fabulous, I'm going to say that," Kathryn Hahn recently said of her upcoming MCU return. "I was going to say fantastic, but then I decided to go with fabulous."

"It's an amazing cast. I’m in awe of everyone’s work in this show and I think people are going to be surprised," she added. "I don't - I think they're gonna think it's one way and, of course, it's gonna go a million different avenues kinda like WandaVision."

Check out Agatha's latest logo in the X post below. 

Very few official plot details have been revealed for Agatha, though we expect it to largely revolve around Agatha tracking down Billy Maximoff (or vice versa) who, like his comic book counterpart, has been "reincarnated" as Billy Kaplan. Mephisto is also expected to appear, possibly played by Sacha Baron Cohen.

Various scoopers have claimed the story will also feature the descendants of Evanora Harkness' coven - now known as the Salem Seven - coming back to claim their revenge on the woman who killed their mothers. 

The show will feature the return of many familiar faces from WandaVision, including Emma Caulfield Ford (Sarah Proctor), Debra Jo Rupp (Sharon Davis), David Payton (John Collins), David Lengel (Harold Proctor), Asif Ali (Abilash Tandon), Amos Glick (Dennis), Brian Brightman (Sheriff Miller), and Kate Forbes (Evanora Harkness). 

Kathryn Hahn will lead the cast, of course, while other noteworthy additions include Aubrey Plaza, Joe Locke, Patti LuPone, Sasheer Zamata, Ali Ahn, Miles Gutierrez-Riley, Okwui Okpokwasili, and Maria Dizzia.

Agatha: Darkhold Diaries is set to premiere on Disney+ later this year.

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BrainySleep - 3/12/2024, 9:08 AM
I just want to see Aubrey lol
ObserverIO - 3/12/2024, 9:08 AM
They should rename it Sons of the Tiger.
ObserverIO - 3/12/2024, 9:10 AM
They would need to reshoot to include those characters and make it a period piece set before Hector Ayala gets the magical amulet.
Polaris - 3/12/2024, 9:10 AM
So... it was Agatha all along
WhatIfRickJames - 3/12/2024, 9:11 AM
@Polaris - nice
Origame - 3/12/2024, 9:19 AM
@Polaris - hey, I was gonna use that.

This means war!

Tpo81 - 3/12/2024, 9:52 AM
@Polaris - I see what you did there. Smooth
RolandD - 3/12/2024, 1:25 PM
@Polaris - Perfect reply!
S8R8M - 3/12/2024, 9:12 AM
Either the title changes have meaning or they don't know what it is about 🤣
CerealKiller1 - 3/12/2024, 9:20 AM
@S8R8M - Honesty I kinda think, like somebody half joked about above, that it was all marketing so that they could say the title was ‘Agatha all along’
JustAWaffle - 3/12/2024, 6:50 PM
@S8R8M - I’m inclined the think the latter.
SheepishOne - 3/12/2024, 9:18 AM
My theory is each of the title changes will be different episode titles, and each episode will be anthological, in terms of style. Like how the first couple of Wandavision episodes were different sitcom eras.

Could be interesting.
bkmeijer1 - 3/12/2024, 12:07 PM
@SheepishOne - what would be the concept now though? Could see it be different types of horror. Maybe one starts with a Twilight Zone intro and another like Hammer House of Horror
SheepishOne - 3/12/2024, 1:07 PM
@bkmeijer1 - I would love a twilight zone aesthetic for an episode. Actually your whole idea is perfect. You could do twilight zone, and then tales from the crypt (I'm imagining an opening scene of the camera flying through Agatha's house, ending up on her busting out of a coffin or something). And I'd love to see an X-Files themed episode.

Lots of possibilities. I definitely think horror (or just spooky in general) is the way to go. Wanda's sitcom vibe was about how she saw her family, so theming it around family television made sense. With Agatha, we gotta lean into the fun horror stuff.

bkmeijer1 - 3/12/2024, 3:31 PM
@SheepishOne - with the initial title of House of Harkness, I immediately thought of Hammer House of Horror. And ever since, I can't shake it it should be an anthology.

Each episode being inspired from a different anthology show would be pretty great too. Think a MST3K could be cool too, considering Agatha being trapped does resemble the trapped subjects. And also, Agatha and sci-fi could be a fun mix
SheepishOne - 3/12/2024, 4:22 PM
@bkmeijer1 - Haha I'd love an MST3K themed episode. That would be really inventive and fun.
Radders - 3/13/2024, 9:55 AM
@SheepishOne - Cool idea but I think you're probably more creative than those making the show
Gabimaru - 3/12/2024, 9:22 AM
because marvel/disney knows what fans want, right?
Apophis71 - 3/12/2024, 10:01 AM
@Gabimaru - The fans don't know what the fans want most the time and when they seem to do what the most vocal fans were voicing the responses were more negative than prior so... take a couple simple examples.

I.) Fans complained and/or dismissed Marvel TV as not connected enough to the films wanting more two way crossovers and the like. Then when they ditched Marvel TV in favour of D+ MCU shows the most vocal were complaining they were TOO connected making them required viewing.

2.) They demanded more Netflix DD, complained about it being canned, yet complained when they brought the cast back and whined about Netflix not being canon, then complained when the Netflix shows WERE stated as canon.

3.) By phase 3 there were growing complaints that everything was too similar in style, tone and too formulaic then in phase four complained when there was experimentation with a variety of styles and tone.

I mean stuff is good, bad or inbetween on an individual view of each film/show and all views valid but if we don't know what we want beyond we want it to be good how can any studio, lol.
Radders - 3/13/2024, 9:57 AM
@Apophis71 - So your point is that different people have different opinions?
Apophis71 - 3/13/2024, 10:32 AM
@Radders - Not realy, although folk do have differing opinions and total consensus rare.

More saying that oft the majority voice will demand a thing and once delivered the majority voice will oft then attack it whilst at other times the majority voice will say they don't want a thing then after it is delivered anyway the majority voice can say they love it.

As I say, the most vocal never seem to know what they want till they get something they love so how the heck is any studio supposed to know what we want when we can't all agree and/or be so fickle.

Ultimately what we all want is something we enjoy that is considered good, if that is major or minor characters is kinda moot as A lister projects can turn out poorly recieved (Wolverine Origins, Iron Man 2, Thor 2, WW2, Flash as examples) and D lister ones can become fan favourites (GotG being the ultimate example of that) IF the film/show is considered good.
Reginator - 3/12/2024, 9:23 AM
how about renaming it "cancelled"?
bobevanz - 3/12/2024, 9:25 AM
The only thing interesting about this show are the title changes
luxbox - 3/12/2024, 9:26 AM
Who ordered the ish sandwich? Order up marvel. Order up.
No one wants this. No one.
Vigor - 3/12/2024, 9:28 AM
@luxbox - eh. It's content. Bound to offer some expansion of the MCU world
SolarSoldier - 3/12/2024, 11:59 AM
@luxbox - Because ordering 500 Wolverine, Batman and Superman movies has superhero movies in such a good state.
Matchesz - 3/12/2024, 9:34 AM
I feel like even the target audience who they’re aiming for is like “whatever i guess i’ll watch it” with this, just like how native americans and queens thought “meh it was whatever” with Echo

I thought the What If cartoons was for the kids and the live action stuff was more for grown audiences
GhostDog - 3/12/2024, 9:36 AM
LOL the indecisiveness is wild
MyCoolYoung - 3/12/2024, 9:58 AM
@GhostDog - divinity seeker, a scooper on twitter, reported early last year that there would be name changes and it’d be a part of the marketing
GhostDog - 3/12/2024, 10:19 AM
@MyCoolYoung - I am perfectly fine admitting when I am wrong or completely just do not understand something....

Is this "good marketing?"
MyCoolYoung - 3/12/2024, 10:23 AM
@GhostDog - no. They aren’t making it clear at all. I would’ve never known this was a thing had I not read it. With all the negative surrounding the MCU, it makes them look clueless and directionless.

The stars should be involved in this
MarvelousMarty - 3/12/2024, 9:43 AM
That really is fun. Really.
supermanrex - 3/12/2024, 9:55 AM
this show has already been decided as a failure by the haters. they have had control of the narrative on this shows perception for quite sometime now. this has to knock it out of the park with some wider MCU implications going. i want it to do well and be good. too much secrecy at marvel and it hurts the brand when trolls run the narrative on their projects before we can even get a glimpse at them or any kind of solid truthful intel outside of daily changing rumors.
clintthahamster - 3/12/2024, 10:12 AM
@supermanrex - Is there too much secrecy at Marvel, or too much kneejerk hate in "fandom?"
supermanrex - 3/12/2024, 10:25 AM
@ClintThaHamster - for sure both. but the secrecy is annoying. feige pops up from his gopher hole for projects then disappears again. i like how Gunn is engaging fans and while not giving out spoilers he debunks bullshit rumors right off the back. not giving things time to fester for false hope when it doesnt happen or negative things to just be the narrative through the whole production.
HashTagSwagg - 3/12/2024, 10:27 AM
@supermanrex - "quite sometime now"?, the media have been blowing Marvel for years, it was really on last year was when it became too big for them to ignore the severe drop in quality.
supermanrex - 3/12/2024, 10:31 AM
@HashTagSwagg - haters have been shitting on agatha getting a show since wanda vision. through the entire process we barely knew shit about it. so there wasnt much coming from the official source to counter all the hate and bullshit rumors going around. its tainted now unless they can pull off something huge. i doubt. cause it doesnt seem to be a big event kind of show which is fine, but wont be enough to change perceptions.
clintthahamster - 3/12/2024, 10:49 AM
@supermanrex - Oh, yeah, I can see that. Not so much giving shit away that would spoil the movie, but actively debunking stuff that isn't true.
supermanrex - 3/12/2024, 11:54 AM
@ClintThaHamster - some of the biggest disappointments in MCU stemmed from wild rumors, Mephisto in wanda vision, the Illuminati being a big part of strange 2 instead of a short and sweet appearance. if he had just came out and said like gunn does. mephisto in the show is untrue would have saved a lot of criticism. sometimes they even lean in on the rumors. like paul bettany during wanda vision stirring some shit that didn't pan out. i love the she hulk series but they absolutely did play up daredevil marketing like he was going to be a bigger part. only to make the cute jokes about this is my show more funny except it only pissed people off. you can be honest about whats in a movie without telling us everything thats in the movie. why let hype build up for a doom cameo at the end of panther 2 when you know its not true. gunn immediately squashes all the insane bullshit before it gets traction.
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