DAREDEVIL: BORN AGAIN Episode 8 Reveals The Truth About Foggy Nelson As [SPOILER] Makes His Bloody Return

DAREDEVIL: BORN AGAIN Episode 8 Reveals The Truth About Foggy Nelson As [SPOILER] Makes His Bloody Return

Daredevil: Born Again's penultimate episode just hit Disney+ and it not only reveals the truth about what happened to Foggy Nelson, but brings a key villain back for a confrontation that ends in tragedy.

By JoshWilding - Apr 08, 2025 09:04 PM EST
Filed Under: Daredevil

In Daredevil: Born Again's premiere, Foggy Nelson was gunned down by Bullseye. Despite fans pointing to the comics in the hope of finding an explanation for how the lawyer survived his run-in with Dex, Foggy currently appears to be very dead. 

However, those of you who believed there was more to his demise than met the eye have been proven correct after watching tonight's penultimate episode of the Disney+ series, "Isle of Joy."

Matt Murdock deduces that Foggy knew he was about to win his case and realises someone silenced him. Bullseye, meanwhile, is being moved to gen pop and the Man Without Fear takes this opportunity to question his old foe. Unfortunately, he doesn't get too far but loses his cool and slams Dex's head into the table before leaving. 

Later, that gives Bullseye the perfect opportunity to recreate a key moment from the comics when he uses a loose tooth to escape from captivity.

Back to Foggy, though, and both we and Matt learn that Vanessa Fisk ordered his death. It turns out that the case he was working on would have exposed her criminal activities as the new Kingpin of Crime, leaving her with no other choice but to find a way to free Dex and send him after Matt's best friend. 

While Fisk is guilty of plenty - including blackmailing Jacques Duquesne after learning he's moonlighting as Swordsman - he didn't order the hit on Foggy, but Matt knows and confronts her while sharing a dance at a party for the Mayor. 

However, before things can escalate between them, Bullseye arrives and attempts to gun down Wilson; hearing the shot, Matt takes the bullet for his greatest enemy and is left bleeding out on the floor as the episode ends. 

Like the premiere, this penultimate chapter was a product of the new creative team and an indication of what the finale and season 2 will look like. This instalment definitely upped the ante and made Foggy's death matter a lot more than it would have done (in Daredevil: Born Again's previous iteration, it was either a random killing or one of the city's dirty cops). 

While Matt may not live to see another day, Fisk owes his life to the man he hates but must protect his wife from Daredevil's vengeance. Something tells us that next week's finale will not be one to miss. 

Eight episodes of Daredevil: Born Again are now streaming on Disney+. 

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AnthonyVonGeek
AnthonyVonGeek - 4/8/2025, 9:20 PM
Is this show actually getting better as it goes on? I watched the first 2 episodes and they were ok, nothing that wowed me like the Netflix show did. I’m basically waiting for the series finale so I can just binge the rest.
thereeljoefish
thereeljoefish - 4/8/2025, 9:33 PM
@AnthonyVonGeek - what does wow you? Lol
BlackStar25
BlackStar25 - 4/9/2025, 12:28 AM
@AnthonyVonGeek - Honestly...you might as well wait. I dont think it will matter though because the way things have been shaping up...Season 2 will be needed in order to truly judge this series because Season 1 will not be strong enough to stand on its own.
AC1
AC1 - 4/9/2025, 4:38 AM
@AnthonyVonGeek - I definitely think it's improving. I remember when I got around to starting Born Again (I was a bit late to the party because I was binging the original Netflix series and got my timings wrong) the first episode actually left me feeling pretty disappointed, especially the janky CGI in the opening fight sequence which looked like a PS3-era videogame cut scene.

But since then I think it's steadily improved, I think their slow burn approach to the storytelling is helping to make things feel a lot more impactful now we're approaching the season finale and it feels like the show is finally settling into its own identity - it's definitely not the same show as Netflix's Daredevil, but it feels like it's becoming a worthy successor and I think some of the new character dynamics are also helping to make things feel fresh and interesting.
theprophet
theprophet - 4/8/2025, 9:45 PM
Damn what an episode, you can tell the quality changed after the overhaul….Matt telling bullseye to go [frick] himself that was great
SonOfAGif
SonOfAGif - 4/8/2025, 11:59 PM
@theprophet - I love when the hero tells the villain off. Like Star Lord did to The High Evolutionary in Guardians Vol 3 or when Rocket mocked Taser face.
Malatrova15
Malatrova15 - 4/8/2025, 9:56 PM
What a drag of a season….all these episodes of nothing burger Just to bring Daredevil back to his initial Netflix status quo…thank you Feige …this slop is season 5 Green Arrow lével
MisterBones
MisterBones - 4/8/2025, 10:03 PM
@Malatrova15 - it really is a massive drag
HOTSHOT
HOTSHOT - 4/9/2025, 3:36 AM
@Malatrova15 - "his initial Netflix status quo"

I mean isn't his entire environment changed now? His enemy is the mayor (and will continue to be next season), his old friends, apartment, and life are gone.

Heroes finding themselves isn't a bad thing. Especially from a show with the title BORN AGAIN
Malatrova15
Malatrova15 - 4/9/2025, 4:33 AM
@HOTSHOT - Born Again?.. Where is Nuke? Where is Ben Ulrich? Where is Captain América?... Im tired of they using the storylines name on nothing
HOTSHOT
HOTSHOT - 4/9/2025, 4:47 AM
@Malatrova15 - 1. They already stated they're not adapting that specific storyline since it was already loosely adapted before in Season 3 (I guess you prolly hate that show too for not having those)

2. Different universe than the comic 616. Literally no live action superhero flick has adaptated the story whose name it took one for one.

3. Born Again means Daredevil finds new life. That's what this show is.
Malatrova15
Malatrova15 - 4/9/2025, 5:39 AM
@HOTSHOT - fun fact.. You can only Born once.. So the whole show is based on lie. Clásic Feige
HOTSHOT
HOTSHOT - 4/9/2025, 5:51 AM
@Malatrova15 - Not true
I was born twice (I was out for a bit but then she pushed me back in)
ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 4/9/2025, 7:36 AM
@HOTSHOT - "Literally no live action superhero flick has adapted the story whose name it took one for one."
Watchmen?

Even looser adaptations like The Russos Winter Soldier, Civil War and Infinity War/Endgame still adapted the comics they were based on.
SpideyQuad
SpideyQuad - 4/9/2025, 8:33 AM
@Malatrova15 - Ben's dead, his daughter is taking his place in the show
SpideyQuad
SpideyQuad - 4/9/2025, 8:34 AM
@Malatrova15 - I think the pandemic has left you a damaged unit sheesh already.
HOTSHOT
HOTSHOT - 4/9/2025, 8:54 AM
@ObserverIO - Watchmen literally changed the entire ending, tone, and many other KEY aspects to the original story.

So no.

Winter Soldier changed many things. Civil War was almost an entirely different story altogether. The original Infinty Gauntlet storyline didn't involve time travel and also gave key importance to characters that those two films didn't (like Adam Warlock for one)

So yeah.
ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 4/9/2025, 10:36 AM
@HOTSHOT - Well sure there's always gonna be some differences.
HOTSHOT
HOTSHOT - 4/9/2025, 5:05 PM
@ObserverIO - Exactly
And pretty much all of your examples had MAJOR ones that make them entirely different stories in terms of plot or tone or themes.

Born Again is just that. So at that point, I don't even see the need to complain about differences.
ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 4/9/2025, 5:51 PM
@HOTSHOT - I wouldn't say entirely.

Born Again is not an adaptation of the comic in the way that Watchmen was or even those Russo bros movies.
Those movies changed some things. Born Again has little to nothing in common with the source material.
HOTSHOT
HOTSHOT - 4/10/2025, 2:08 AM
@ObserverIO - It absolutely was to the extent that the Russo films were (similar themes and character inclusions but that's about it).

The thematic connections to the source material were there in both Season 3 and this, but with different story beats than the comic book itself.
ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 4/10/2025, 5:27 AM
@HOTSHOT - I can see Season 3 as an adaptation of Born Again.
HOTSHOT
HOTSHOT - 4/10/2025, 6:06 AM
@ObserverIO - A very loose one. The most telling storybeat adapted being Matt waking up with Maggie treating him (but not even at the same point in the story.)

Karen isn't a porn star who sells Matt's identity for drugs. Matt's career isn't ruined. He doesn't get cucked by Foggy. He doesn't have his apartment blown up (key event) or get disbarred. Matt isn't driven to insanity through Fisk's efforts. Ben Urich is dead. No Captain America. No Nuke, etc.

Outside the scene where Matt wakes up in the church, there's not much connecting it to that story at all aside from the themes (which the Born Again series also features).

So they're both loose adaptations.
ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 4/10/2025, 6:15 AM
@HOTSHOT - Another scene I would point to is the cabbie that drives him into the river and then Kingpin finding out that Matt survived. Even the same words "There is no corpse".
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HOTSHOT
HOTSHOT - 4/10/2025, 6:33 AM
@ObserverIO - Oh yeah forgot about that (mostly because the dialogue audio was intentionally blurry til that last line)

Dope reference

Both shows reference Miller a lot, but the new one also pays homage to stuff from Zdarsky and other writers.

ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 4/10/2025, 7:04 AM
@HOTSHOT - I see it mostly as an adap of the Soule and Zdarsky stuff. There's a little Waid and Bendis thrown in there and Heather Glenn is from the Wolfman run through to the Miller era, but she's basically just Heather Glenn in name only (other than having issues with Matt's availabilty).
MisterBones
MisterBones - 4/8/2025, 10:04 PM
This show is so frustrating. You can see the flickers of post overhaul work that really shine and then the pre overhaul stuff rears its ugly head. This season is just an uneven drag.

Idk…maybe they should’ve truly started from scratch and not tried to fix the pre overhaul stuff. At least season 2 has the new writers untethered.
fanboy03191
fanboy03191 - 4/8/2025, 10:37 PM
@MisterBones - Think it was just too far in for it to be completely scrapped. Personally my biggest issue is the pacing but that may be cause I'm old school with the Netflix format.
RolandD
RolandD - 4/9/2025, 10:52 AM
@fanboy03191 - Wven with the Netflix show, lots of people on here complained about the pacing. I did not. I am also happy with the new version. It has its differences but I am also looking forward to next year’s show that is completely done by the new show runners and writers.
SheepishOne
SheepishOne - 4/8/2025, 10:08 PM
I’m a fan so far, but man do I hate when they cut back and forth between the Fisk and Matt moments. They did it in the last episode, too. Cut, cut, cut, cut, cut. Just let the dang scene play out. It’s like the editor has ADD.

Otherwise, it’s been a solid season.
thedrudo
thedrudo - 4/8/2025, 10:15 PM
@SheepishOne - They really hammer home that him and Fisk are going through the same thematic issues at the same time.
fanboy03191
fanboy03191 - 4/8/2025, 10:36 PM
@thedrudo - Exactly. They're both trying(and failing miserably) at keeping their other "sides" at bay. But Matt better be careful lol. More and more people are noticing he doesn't need a cane haha. Maybe that's how this season ends, with Matt's identity being exposed. Pretty big story in the comics.
HOTSHOT
HOTSHOT - 4/9/2025, 3:37 AM
@fanboy03191 - I think it might

- Fisk warned Matt there would be consequences if he became Daredevil again
- Fisk is legally in a better spot now than he was before so he can get away with outting him
- Vanessa might die, breaking their deal
- S2 features Matt and Karen on the run
- S2 also features a Vigilante Task Force missing persons poster for Matt
ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 4/9/2025, 7:45 AM
@SheepishOne - That was really annoying here. The Matt and Heather stuff needed to breathe. The Fisk stuff was so intense that it stepped all over Matt and Heather rendering them a mere obstruction to the more exciting Fisk stuff.
MakeAmericaGrea
MakeAmericaGrea - 4/8/2025, 10:10 PM
Daredevil is a neat superhero.

We should celebrate if Thunderbolts bombs.

And especially if Fantastic Four bombs.
ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 4/9/2025, 7:47 AM
@MakeAmericaGrea - So you like the new Daredevil show on Disney+. I will offer the overlords of the Walt Disney Megacorporation your sincere compliments.
thedrudo
thedrudo - 4/8/2025, 10:14 PM
I've been pretty down on the season as a whole but I liked this one quite a bit. Probably my favorite episode so far.
fanboy03191
fanboy03191 - 4/8/2025, 10:35 PM
@thedrudo - May I ask why?
thedrudo
thedrudo - 4/8/2025, 10:48 PM
@fanboy03191 - Not sure where to start on that to be honest. A few things that come to mind is how rushed the Muse arc was. That could have been a pretty interesting story throughout the season where Matt investigates but they really crammed it all in 2-episodes. Just feels like a waste.

Then there's just been some pretty big swings and misses like the bank heist episode that just felt so out of place and unlike the bulk of the other episodes. We've been covering it on our podcast and then condensed video review/recaps on Youtube (Quality Check Podcast) ... shameless plug but that's where my feelings are.

Hoping it can end well and they can come out strong and keep it going with season 2 under this new creative team.
HOTSHOT
HOTSHOT - 4/9/2025, 3:39 AM
@thedrudo - How did the bank heist episode feel out of place? It not only serves the story (Luca trying to obtain the money Fisk ordered him to pay Viktor), but shows Matt finally coming back to the hero thing even if he's not in costume when it happens.

Hell, the whole thing of Matt having to incognito stop a robbery during daytime was fantastic
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