Daredevil: Born Again Star Ayelet Zurer Shares Surprising Revelation About Episode 5's Flashbacks (Exclusive)

Daredevil: Born Again Star Ayelet Zurer Shares Surprising Revelation About Episode 5's Flashbacks (Exclusive)

Daredevil: Born Again star Ayelet Zurer tells us about episode 5's flashbacks, and whether what we saw is really how things played out. She also reflects on her time as the MCU's Vanessa Fisk.

By JoshWilding - Apr 15, 2026 03:04 PM EST
Filed Under: Daredevil

In last night's episode of Daredevil: Born Again, "The Grand Design," we returned to the Netflix era of Daredevil (screen ratio change, and all). Set before the events of Season 1, the flashbacks featured Foggy Nelson's return and shed new light on Wilson Fisk's relationship with Vanessa.

It turns out that the Kingpin was at her art gallery, not solely for the artwork, but because it was another business he could launder money through. We also learn how Vanessa's persistence in displaying the "Rabbit in a Snowstorm," the painting that later catches the villain's attention, changed her life forever.

When we spoke with Ayelet Zurer about Vanessa's shocking Daredevil: Born Again Season 2 departure, we asked about shooting those scenes, and the actress had a unique take on the meaning behind what we saw. 

"That was really fun too," she said of the full circle moment for her time as the character. "With the gallery scenes, we also asked ourselves: 'Is that really what happened, or is it how she remembers it now?' That became an interesting question. We sort of agreed that it’s not exactly how it happened—it’s more how she perceives it in retrospect."

"It’s complicated, but that made it really interesting to explore. And the 'Rabbit in a Snowstorm' idea, I’ve always thought that was such a beautiful and meaningful representation of their relationship. Think about it: something gentle and vulnerable against a storm. That’s essentially them. He’s the storm, and she’s the rabbit."

"And that painting, especially before the red was added, before the blood, before the damage, that contrast says so much," Zurer added.

Elsewhere in our conversation, we wondered how the actress felt about the scenes she shared with Wilson Bethel's Bullseye in Season 2. After all, her character manipulated Dex into killing Foggy, and ultimately dies—albeit indirectly—by his hand. 

"I remember our scene in the original series, in the penthouse, where it’s like, 'Who is this person?' Then, in this season, there’s that devastating moment where she’s essentially controlling him, making him do her bidding," Zurer recalled. "And then when he comes back, she knows. She can feel it. I really loved that dynamic. He’s amazing. I love him so much. He’s incredibly fun and a fantastic actor. I had a great time working with him."

Talking of the original Daredevil series, as our conversation came to a close, we wondered what Zurer's favourite memory from her time in the MCU was, as her decade-long stint as Vanessa Fisk comes to a close. 

"I really, really enjoyed the first season. I loved the scenes with Vincent, from that very first gallery moment, where these two complicated people meet, to the evolution of their relationship," she shared. "What I especially loved digging into in season one of Born Again was the couples therapy with the psychiatrist."

"It was such a bizarre situation to put these two characters in—but at the same time, it really allowed us to explore the themes that we always had, which were love and truth," Zurer concluded.

Now, we get to explore the aftermath of Vanessa's death, and Vincent D'Onofrio has already hinted at the impact of what's happened in the past two episodes being felt as we head into Season 3.

As for Zurer, while her run as this character has come to an end, there's no denying the impact she's had on both fans and the Man Without Fear's corner of the MCU.

A brutal, relentless tour-de-force, Daredevil: Born Again Season 2 is a Marvel masterstroke that sees Charlie Cox take the Man Without Fear to unprecedented heights, delivering the definitive take on Daredevil," we said in our 8-episode review published last month.

Daredevil: Born Again is now streaming weekly on Disney+.

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TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 4/15/2026, 3:34 PM
I quite like her take on the Rabbit in the Snowstorm painting and how it relates to Vanessa & Fisk…

It really fits with her being the Rabbit and Fisk’s volatile world & nature being the snowstorm that she gets caught in and a part of after which the blood & such infects their lives which is physically depicted on the painting.

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Wilson & Vanessa’s dynamic was fun and engaging to watch imo!!.
0bstreperous
0bstreperous - 4/15/2026, 3:37 PM
Who was in the trunk of the car was it BB?
Spike101
Spike101 - 4/15/2026, 3:48 PM
@0bstreperous - I wondered the same thing.
0bstreperous
0bstreperous - 4/15/2026, 3:55 PM
@Spike101 - I just AI'd it I think it was the other guy from the ship
Spike101
Spike101 - 4/15/2026, 4:45 PM
@0bstreperous - yes I guess that’s another possibility. Hopefully find out next week. Episode 5 was really getting to the Netflix level for me with multiple threads running and the backstory stuff.
0bstreperous
0bstreperous - 4/15/2026, 4:48 PM
@Spike101 - I'll admit they are trying
abd00bie
abd00bie - 4/16/2026, 4:53 AM
@0bstreperous - I thought it was Lion, he found him after all these years
RokoVII
RokoVII - 4/16/2026, 6:26 AM
@0bstreperous - it was Savva (the other guy from the ship)
AgentofSH1ELD
AgentofSH1ELD - 4/16/2026, 6:55 AM
@0bstreperous - I think it was the 1st mate from the ship. either that or the dude Foggy helped from before? couldnt get a clear shot.
0bstreperous
0bstreperous - 4/16/2026, 7:14 AM
@RokoVII - yeah I AI'd it
FireGunn
FireGunn - 4/15/2026, 5:04 PM
This is one of the worst episodes of the entire show. Complete dogwater.

Reboot the MCU and DCU
TheyDont
TheyDont - 4/15/2026, 9:20 PM
@FireGunn - Do you find it funny how this has become your whole personality?
FireGunn
FireGunn - 4/15/2026, 9:33 PM
@TheyDont - Is being a shill your whole personality?
AgentofSH1ELD
AgentofSH1ELD - 4/16/2026, 6:57 AM
@FireGunn - what didnt you like about it?
FireGunn
FireGunn - 4/16/2026, 11:54 AM
@AgentofSH1ELD - I could say so much and write an entire essay on how bad this episode was but I'll just give me general thoughts and a short tldr.

-Overuses flashbacks (Foggy, past events) that don’t add anything new
-Feels like fanservice, nostalgia bait, and memberberry slop instead of actual substantive meaningful writing
-Matt is character assassinated this episode in both the flashbacks and present day.
-Bullseye has been softened and they're clearly trying to make him a sympathetic anti hero now. The character work and his dialogue was awful and contradictory to who he is
-The editing, pacing, and stylistic choices were all terrible (Constant aspect ratio changes, abrupt cuts in between scenes to force a parallel)
-Pointless filler that didn't advance the plot or characters (Outside of Vannessa's Death)
-Think's it's more mature than it is. Lacks nuance, is rehashing themes and straight up plot beats from the Netflix series and is over the top explicit in how it portrays it's themes.

I have many more issues but this is just a short tldr. I was hoping this episode would be good because the last episode actually gave me some kind of hope but it seems like the rest of the season will be just as dogshit as I expected, which is a shame.
AgentofSH1ELD
AgentofSH1ELD - 4/16/2026, 2:15 PM
@FireGunn - I actually really appreciate your thoughts and agree with 70% of what you said.
Too many flashbacks and that foggy crap and focusing on the old nickname.
Matt character assassination so much. When he was arguing against foggy bringing up the invalid search warrant I'm going wtf...
The bullseye thing... I get Matt trying to help him but the way bullseye was acting? no [frick] that. If DD were helping him through an ally and bullseye had a knife he would be trying to stab DD.
HeavyMetal4Life
HeavyMetal4Life - 4/16/2026, 5:33 PM
They did a great job with the flashback scenes, Vanessa looked so good

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