LOKI Producer Reveals Why Loki And Sylvie's Romance Was Sidelined In Season 2 - SPOILERS

LOKI Producer Reveals Why Loki And Sylvie's Romance Was Sidelined In Season 2 - SPOILERS

Loki executive producer Kevin Wright explains why Loki and Sylvie's romantic feelings for each other weren't a focal point of season 2, suggesting there simply wasn't room when so much else was going on.

By JoshWilding - Nov 15, 2023 06:11 AM EST
Filed Under: Loki
Source: ComicBook.com

Loki season 2 has received a great response from fans, particularly after what proved to be a powerful and memorable end to the God of Mischief's story. 

Sylvie also returned in this second batch of episodes, taking on more of a supporting role in the story. Some have gone so far as to argue the Loki Variant was largely sidelined, particularly when it came to her and Earth-616 Loki's budding romance. 

Loki executive producer Kevin Wright has since explained why the show's focus changed, revealing that the stakes were too high to spend time delving into the romantic feelings the two Variants have for each other. 

"I think ultimately the stakes were so high. It's hard to slow down and have smoochie-smooch romantic time together, but everything that's happening is because they do deeply care about each other," he tells ComicBook.com.

"They essentially broke up at the end of Season 1 and then you run into your ex again and they're constantly at odds. And I think the tensions and stress is so high because they care about each other."

"And I think that [the] through line from Season 1 is Sylvie saying, 'Why aren't we seeing this the same way?'" Wright continues. "And that ripples; that ripple at the start there just turns into a tidal wave this season because it all comes down to that: it's two people who deeply care about each other, not being able to get on the same page."

This confirms the way Sylvie betrayed Loki in He Who Remains' Citadel at the End of Time was the end of their romantic relationship. However, as Wright goes on to explain, the Asgardian's actions in the season 2 finale come from a place of love for both Sylvie and his friends, like Mobius, in the TVA. 

"Loki would only do what he does at the end because he cares about her because he cares about Mobius more than anyone he's ever cared about," Wright says. "So I don't think it's about pulling back on anything. I think it would feel forced and unnatural to slow down and give them romantic time together. You get to do that on [Loki Season 1 episode] "Lamentis" because they're stuck on a train!"

Loki falling in love with a female Variant of himself drew a mixed response from fans, so that too could have played into the decision. Still, what Wright says here makes sense and we're sure Loki and Sylvie's relationship will deepen if and when they're eventually reunited. 

If we're not getting Loki season 3, though, it's tough to say how much room there will be for that in a future Avengers movie, for example. 

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Gabimaru
Gabimaru - 11/15/2023, 6:16 AM
She wasn't that interesting to begin with.
Fogs
Fogs - 11/15/2023, 6:19 AM
@Gabimaru - She was almost kind of what Loki was before all the experience he got in the series. It's like a mirror that kept Loki honest. I liked that.
Fogs
Fogs - 11/15/2023, 6:18 AM
That was actually very well-made.

As he says, we know they like each other, but with everything that happened this season, there simply wasn't time for that. I like how they had the sensitivity to dose that aspect. It serves the story, deepening the stakes, but without getting in the way.
OrgasmicPotatoe
OrgasmicPotatoe - 11/15/2023, 6:32 AM
Good call. There wasn't time for that, and also, don't make variants date eachother.
LSHF
LSHF - 11/15/2023, 6:42 AM
Agreed. They would be doing this for the sake of it, and because the audience might want it; not because it's realistic for those characters.
marvel72
marvel72 - 11/15/2023, 6:45 AM
She was a bitch in season 2.
tylerzero
tylerzero - 11/15/2023, 7:02 AM
@marvel72 -

marvel72
marvel72 - 11/15/2023, 7:04 AM
@tylerzero - Don't get me wrong, I would have sorted her out if you know what I mean but she was a bitch.
Scarilian
Scarilian - 11/15/2023, 7:11 AM
@marvel72 -
She was extremely unlikable in Season 1 - so I'm not sure what people expected going into Season 2.
Evansly
Evansly - 11/15/2023, 8:24 AM
@marvel72 - How would you have sorted her out? Hmm
marvel72
marvel72 - 11/15/2023, 8:54 AM
@Evansly -

Evansly
Evansly - 11/15/2023, 9:43 AM
@marvel72 - And you assume you would have consent to do so because?
marvel72
marvel72 - 11/15/2023, 1:13 PM
@Evansly - She couldn't resist me.
bkmeijer1
bkmeijer1 - 11/15/2023, 6:52 AM
Always thought the romance was weird anyway. They're from different universes, but they still share genes and have the same parents. That kinda makes them siblings (like the Letuces in Bioshock Infinite).
Taonrey
Taonrey - 11/15/2023, 7:03 AM
@bkmeijer1 - seeing as Loki a shapeshifter I’d argue it’s just advanced masturbation that being said it’s still weird asf
Scarilian
Scarilian - 11/15/2023, 7:10 AM
@bkmeijer1 -
It should have definitely been treated as the more disturbed/narcissistic aspect that it is. This is Loki wanting to be with a version of himself. It should have been shut down immediately.

Even taken with faith that it's not the writers sexual fanfiction - the story should have used it as a way to explore the narcissistic tendencies of Loki, emphasize the tragedy of him being so alone (his entire universe pruned) that he wants a connection with someone who is effectively himself and follow that through to the idea of him realizing he can be happy just being himself.
bkmeijer1
bkmeijer1 - 11/15/2023, 8:40 AM
@Scarilian - that's a really good take. And it kinda works applying it to the show as it is, but only because of our own perspective. The show doesn't make that all that clear at all
ElvenKingSlayer
ElvenKingSlayer - 11/15/2023, 1:17 PM
@bkmeijer1 - He's done weirder stuff. Once he turned himself into a mare and got pregnant by a stallion. Then he gave birth to Sleipner. All to mess with a giant he had a completion with..
ElvenKingSlayer
ElvenKingSlayer - 11/15/2023, 1:17 PM
@ElvenKingSlayer - *competition
bkmeijer1
bkmeijer1 - 11/15/2023, 2:04 PM
@ElvenKingSlayer - yeah, Norse Mythology is weird. Pretty much everything that happens in Norde Mythology is because Loki did a weird thing
ElvenKingSlayer
ElvenKingSlayer - 11/15/2023, 2:06 PM
@bkmeijer1 - True, that fantasy is even weirder than "modern" fantasy like the bloke who parted the sea
bkmeijer1
bkmeijer1 - 11/15/2023, 2:32 PM
@ElvenKingSlayer - that bloke has nothing on Thor disguising himself as a bride to get Mjolnir back. Kinda wish we got that in the MCU (think that fits with the L&T Thor)
Scarilian
Scarilian - 11/15/2023, 7:06 AM
It reminds me of how The Master in Doctor Who remarked about how he was horny and wanted to have sex with a future female incarnation of himself. Despite being extremely messed up this kinda worked for The Master because he's a narcissist.

It demonstrates an extreme level of narcissism if you apply that to a character and applying it to Loki in Season 1 and ignoring the narcissism aspect was disingenuous. It's also a [frick]ed up mentality to end up falling for a version of yourself, which is exactly what Female Loki is.

It's extremely likely this is why media and fans were pushed to try and fight against anyone calling her Female Loki because it really emphasizes just how [frick]ed up the writers are and to extension reflects on Loki as a character when you acknowledge that Sylvie is at her core a female Loki.

Female Loki was never a popular character, the first season feeling like a bait and switch tricking people into watching under the idea that we'd see Tom Hiddleston's Loki as the focus, but he gets sidelined in favor of a story-line resolved by Slyvie in Season 1.
Polaris
Polaris - 11/15/2023, 7:30 AM
"...because he cares about her because he cares about Mobius more than anyone he's ever cared about"

Sorry what? He cares for them more than for Odin, Thor, HIS MOTHER? No f*cking way.

One thing I didn't like about the show is how Loki's so desperate to keep his friends, and I can undestand it when it comes to Mobius, but how is he so invested in the wellbeing of O.B. and the others when they're basically co-workers he barely knows?

These writers create their OCs and then want them to be the Most Important Characters. It's why Sylvie was pretty much the main character in season 1. Sorry but no, this isn't about them.
WhateverItTakes
WhateverItTakes - 11/15/2023, 7:32 AM
It's like me smooching a mirror......odd
Origame
Origame - 11/15/2023, 7:34 AM
The real reason is they realized how creepy it was. They were basically siblings ffs
HashTagSwagg
HashTagSwagg - 11/15/2023, 7:41 AM
I didn't buy a thousand year old Loki suddenly becoming a love sick puppy within the span of a 20 minute episode.
Purefoy
Purefoy - 11/15/2023, 6:21 PM
I'm glad she was sidelined, she was/is a terrible character and just made me roll my eyes whenever she was onscreen. Actress wasn't good either so she really was a drag for me.
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