STAR WARS: Dave Filoni Seemingly Confirms Grand Admiral Thrawn Will Be His Movie's Lead Villain

STAR WARS: Dave Filoni Seemingly Confirms Grand Admiral Thrawn Will Be His Movie's Lead Villain

We expected Dave Filoni's Star Wars movie to put Lars Mikkelsen's Grand Admiral Thrawn front and centre, and the writer and director has now seemingly confirmed that the villain will be the project's big bad.

By JoshWilding - May 11, 2023 09:05 PM EST
Filed Under: Star Wars
Source: Empire (via SFFGazette.com)

At Star Wars Celebration, Lucasfilm revealed plans for Dave Filoni to helm a movie that will bring together the many threads from the New Republic-set Disney+ TV shows for an epic big screen crossover event. 

Very little has been revealed beyond that, but with Grand Admiral Thrawn set to return in Ahsoka, the prevailing theory is that we're getting a loose adaptation of the "Heir to the Empire." That trilogy of Expanded Universe novels was written by Timothy Zahn and served as the original "sequel trilogy" in publishing, introducing not only Thrawn, but Mara Jade as well. 

During a recent interview with Empire (via SFFGazette.com), Filoni seemingly confirmed that the Grand Admiral will be the movie's big bad when asked if he's being lined up as this era of storytelling's main villain.

"Definitely, in my eyes," he responded. "When Timothy Zahn wrote 'Heir To The Empire,' Thrawn became this very iconic villain, because he was different than anything we’d seen before. He wasn’t another helmet-wearing, lightsaber-wielding bad guy, you know? There’s a lot of pull to make characters that are like Vader, because it is so iconic."

"He’s a critical player in this time period," Filoni said of the Chiss baddie who was added to the current canon in Star Wars Rebels. "We’re fortunate to have that character, and fortunate to have Lars [Mikkelsen] playing him."

He'd continue by saying, "I want to make sure that I’m honouring ideas that Tim had, so I want to see what’s [in his books] for the story. In The Bad Batch, there is actually some crossover with the book Heir To The Empire in the military base of Tantiss. So there are little things along the way that I’ve built across different mediums, all in preparation for things that come later."

Throw in Mark Hamill's return as Luke Skywalker in The Mandalorian and The Book of Boba Fett, and we'd be shocked if the Jedi Knight also doesn't appear in Filoni's Star Wars movie, particularly if Mara Jade is about to be reinvented for live-action. 

While some believe this project will serve as a culmination, it may well be setting the stage for a whole new wave of stories, and we're sure Filoni has a lot of very exciting plans as he continues exploring the period between the fall of the Empire and the rise of the First Order. 

Stay tuned to SFFGazette.com for all the latest Star Wars updates. 

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TheSuperMex
TheSuperMex - 5/11/2023, 9:34 PM
Thrawn should have been the main villain of the sequels.
Saga
Saga - 5/11/2023, 9:49 PM
After Rebels? No thanks, this guy who almost defeated the republic now bested by a teenagers? Gtfo
ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 5/12/2023, 5:27 AM
@Saga - Aren't the bad guys in Star Wars always bested by teenagers (and usually one elder statesman that dies)?
Obi Wan, Anakin, Padme, Luke, Leia, Rey, Finn etc.
mountainman
mountainman - 5/11/2023, 9:49 PM
I really hope that this movie is accessible to people who haven’t watched every episode of all of the cartoons. If not, it’ll have the same problems as MCU movies that rely on the audience having watched D+ marvel shows. It can have nods to fans of those shows, but it has to be understandable to the GA to succeed.
grif
grif - 5/11/2023, 9:52 PM
@mountainman - shits so funny. less people watched rebels than clone wars. they will have no idea who this guy or the characters from rebels are. or wtf is going on.
mountainman
mountainman - 5/11/2023, 10:11 PM
@grif - Mando Season 3 already saw declining numbers from season 2. It’s really not a good idea to release a movie that requires many hours of homework to understand it. Put the movie straight to D+ if it’s just a finale to all the shows.
Starfox
Starfox - 5/11/2023, 9:53 PM
In my eyes, Grand Admiral Thrawn has been the big bad of Star Wars for decades now, and I’m glad that casual fans will finally be introduced to him in the Ashoka series.
bkmeijer1
bkmeijer1 - 5/12/2023, 2:28 AM
Zero surprise there. Thrawn is a New Republic endgame villain in Legends as well, so stands to reason he is as well in canon
DevilsDreams
DevilsDreams - 5/12/2023, 5:08 AM
Cool, will be interested to see this.
I'm kind of happy that Filoni is at least looking towards the old EU source material rather than not knowing it existed like Kennedy
Clintthahamster
Clintthahamster - 5/12/2023, 8:02 AM
@DevilsDreams - Remarkable to me that y'all continue to pretend that Kennedy was unaware of the EU, and not just talking about the fact that Disney had decided not to make it canon. Also remarkable that y'all continue to complain about it 7 years after Thrawn's introduction to canon. A truly Herculean commitment to being obtuse.
DevilsDreams
DevilsDreams - 5/12/2023, 8:56 AM
@ClintThaHamster - Whiny insults aside.
Even if Kennedy had said it in that vein it was an outright stupid thing to say, Lucas handed over treatments for episodes 7, 8 and 9 and referenced the EU, now it's fine that they decided to go in a different direction, even if she made the comment because they had decided to move away from the EU. (and just to note, not all of the EU was set after ROTJ.)

Ultimately many fans are annoyed as she presided over a trilogy that had no overarching story from the start, leading it to the response it got from the existing and new fanbase. comparing Star Wars to Disney's other property Marvel, Marvel (at least in the early phases) worked well because they had albeit maybe a basic overall storyline, this still allowed individual directors freedom within their films to develop characters and other interwoven storylines whilst still serving the main plot of the phase. Kennedy failed to oversee the franchise in this way and arguably it has been Filoni's direction and to a degree Faverou's involvement later on which have helped the franchise to look over longer term plans it seems.
Clintthahamster
Clintthahamster - 5/12/2023, 9:46 AM
@DevilsDreams - Agreed that an overarching story outline, and especially some kind of auteur overseeing the project, would have benefitted the project greatly. That said, I'm in the camp that things were going just fine until Disney panicked after a few noisy fans raised a stink about the Last Jedi, and decided to bring JJ back to make The Force Awakens Again.
DevilsDreams
DevilsDreams - 5/12/2023, 10:01 AM
@ClintThaHamster - overall I think it's a bit of a "too many cooks" situation if I'm honest.

Personally I'm not a huge fan of the Last Jedi, I thought it had weak character development and just felt disjointed, so many missed opportunities in it overall.

I think Sam Witwer hit the nail on the head with what he said:
"Last Jedi, to me, felt like a movie made by a guy who hadn't quite done his homework. I think Rian Johnson's a talented guy, but Bruce Lee didn't develop Jeet Kune Do without learning Kung Fu first. You can't reinvent Star Wars without knowing Star Wars first and he didn't -- for me -- make a compelling argument for why Luke didn't go and help his sister."
Clintthahamster
Clintthahamster - 5/12/2023, 10:42 AM
@DevilsDreams - Luke's story resonated with me. It's a deeply human thing to be paralyzed by failure and regret, and to feel like you have to cut yourself off from the people you love to protect them. I hear everyone saying that Luke, the galaxy's perfect hero, would never do that, but stories about perfect people are boring.

Luke was haunted by his family's connection to the Dark Side, felt he'd failed his sister and his nephew, and did what he thought was best. He was wrong, but it showed that he was a flawed person. It worked for me, but clearly it didn't for some.
DevilsDreams
DevilsDreams - 5/12/2023, 11:14 AM
@ClintThaHamster - If we're honest the trilogy was never going to live up to the initial hype, due to it being so long and the EU set a high bar.

The failure and regret kind of makes sense, but I know that Mark Hamill did express some concerns/reservations around the portrayal of the character.

But Luke aide I think there were so many missed opportunities in the film, for instance, I don't think it should have been Holdo that kamikazed their ship, it should have been Ackbar, he could have gotten injured at the same point as Leia, allowing him to sacrifice himself to give the others time, that would have allowed for a development of the dichotomy between Holdo and Poe which could have worked well into the next film.
Clintthahamster
Clintthahamster - 5/12/2023, 12:28 PM
@DevilsDreams - I found myself wishing it'd been Leia who did the Holdo, since she'd died by the time LJ was released. Obviously no way to know that was going to happen when filming, but it would have saved them from the dichotomy of bad choices they had, either kill Leia off in the crawl, or use old footage and CGI to resurrect her (I sincerely wish they'd gone with the former.)
Cleander
Cleander - 5/13/2023, 9:38 AM
so many ppl were crying on twitter that Thrawn isn't a villain lol
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