STAR WARS: THE ACOLYTE Gets A Bloody First Poster As Lucasfilm Reveals Premiere Date And Trailer Debut

STAR WARS: THE ACOLYTE Gets A Bloody First Poster As Lucasfilm Reveals Premiere Date And Trailer Debut

The first trailer for The Acolyte arrives tomorrow and, in the meantime, we have a bloody first poster along with a long-awaited premiere date for the next Star Wars TV series. Find out more right here...

By JoshWilding - Mar 18, 2024 05:03 PM EST
Filed Under: Star Wars
Source: SFFGazette.com

"In an age of light...a darkness rises."

As we first reported on SFFGazette.com, Lucasfilm has debuted the first poster for Star Wars: The Acolyte, the upcoming Disney+ TV series which we now know will premiere on June 4. 

The one-sheet shows a lightsaber that, in place of an ignited blade, leaves us with the sort of bloody imagery which is far from typical for the Star Wars franchise. The question is, whose blood is that?

A brief new synopsis for the series may shed some light on the matter. "In The Acolyte, an investigation into a shocking crime spree pits a respected Jedi Master (Lee Jung-jae) against a dangerous warrior from his past (Amandla Stenberg)," it reads. "As more clues emerge, they travel down a dark path where sinister forces reveal all is not what it seems..."

Nothing we've heard about this series suggests it's a "typical" Star Wars story and that's far from a bad thing. By taking us to The High Republic Era, the series has a chance to shed new light on the franchise's past and perhaps even lay the groundwork for what we saw in George Lucas' Star Wars prequels. 

Since Disney acquired Lucasfilm, the studio has largely played it safe, mostly setting stories between the events of Revenge of the Sith and A New Hope. However, by taking us to this time before The Phantom Menace, who knows where the story will take us? 

Will this be the Sith "origin story" many fans are expecting? That remains to be seen, though speculation continues to run rampant that we might meet Palpatine's Master, the mysterious Darth Plagueis. 

Take a look at the the first poster for The Acolyte below and keep your eyes on SFFGazette.com tomorrow for the trailer! 

The Acolyte will take viewers into a galaxy of shadowy secrets and emerging dark-side powers in the final days of the High Republic era with the story of former Padawan who reunites with her Jedi Master to investigate a series of crimes but discovers the forces they confront are more sinister than they ever anticipated. 

The series stars Amandla Stenberg, Lee Jung-jae, Manny Jacinto, Dafne Keen, Charlie Barnett, Jodie Turner-Smith, Rebecca Henderson, Dean-Charles Chapman, Joonas Suotamo, and Carrie-Anne Moss.

The Acolyte comes from creator and showrunner Leslye Headland (Russian Doll), who also serves as executive producer alongside Kathleen Kennedy, Simon Emanuel, Jeff F. King, and Jason Micallef. Charmaine DeGraté and Kor Adana are the co-executive producers, and Rayne Roberts and Damian Anderson are producing.

As noted, the next Star Wars TV series will premiere on Disney+ on June 4. 

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Nightwing1015
Nightwing1015 - 3/18/2024, 5:08 PM
Bit dark for Star Wars but ok
Clintthahamster
Clintthahamster - 3/18/2024, 5:13 PM
@Nightwing1015 - We'll see . . . ESB, RotS, and Rogue One/Andor were all pretty dark and, maybe not coincidentally, among the most well-regarded Star Wars properties.
dragon316
dragon316 - 3/18/2024, 5:27 PM
@Nightwing1015 - like to see more serious dark in Star Wars Mandalorian had good mix of it ashoka as well
EgoEgor
EgoEgor - 8/25/2024, 2:40 AM
@Nightwing1015 @clintthahamster @dragon316 - well, it ended up being a marketing misdirection.


Just randomly saw this linked and thought it was funny how they tried to fool people.
Clintthahamster
Clintthahamster - 8/25/2024, 6:24 PM
@EgoEgor - Which part was a misdirection? There were lightsabers, and blood . . .
tylerzero
tylerzero - 3/18/2024, 5:10 PM
Cool original posters are cool.

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TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 3/18/2024, 5:10 PM
That’s a simple yet cool & effective poster , I dig it!!.

I especially like the blood making the impression of the ignited red blade that the Sith carry…

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Looking forward to the show & trailer tomorrow!!.
Clintthahamster
Clintthahamster - 3/18/2024, 5:11 PM
Hell yeah, let's go!
Bokis
Bokis - 3/18/2024, 5:12 PM
Hopefully more Andor than Obi-Wan, Book of Boba Fett and Ahsoka
FireandBlood
FireandBlood - 3/18/2024, 5:17 PM
Now that’s a poster
LSHF
LSHF - 3/18/2024, 5:23 PM
Is this an animated series?
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 3/18/2024, 5:27 PM
@LSHF - no , live action.
LSHF
LSHF - 3/18/2024, 5:28 PM
@TheVisionary25 - Cool.

Thank you!
harryba11zack
harryba11zack - 3/18/2024, 5:23 PM
the force really is female
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HashTagSwagg
HashTagSwagg - 3/18/2024, 5:26 PM
@harryba11zack - That time of the month huh
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Origame
Origame - 3/18/2024, 6:08 PM
@harryba11zack - ?si=FAZf0EscilVfBG8W
marvel72
marvel72 - 3/18/2024, 6:57 PM
@HashTagSwagg - I wonder what PEROID this is set.
JustAWaffle
JustAWaffle - 3/19/2024, 4:19 AM
@harryba11zack - User Comment Image
ShimmyShimmyYA
ShimmyShimmyYA - 3/18/2024, 5:26 PM
Inject this shit in my veins
mountainman
mountainman - 3/18/2024, 5:26 PM
The concept sounds neat, but the show runner and Amandla Stenberg‘s involvement certainly drag the excitement for this way down.
bkmeijer1
bkmeijer1 - 3/18/2024, 5:54 PM
@mountainman - what's wrong with Stenberg. Think she's fine, or did I miss another controversy?
mountainman
mountainman - 3/18/2024, 6:06 PM
@bkmeijer1 - She’s another one of these activist actresses that thinks her terrible political opinions should be declared to the world and made into projects (which is specifically what is concerning about this likely activist driven project).
DarthOmega
DarthOmega - 3/18/2024, 7:15 PM
@mountainman - It sucks too because I think the greatest Star Wars story yet to be told on the big screen is that of the Sith and their pov. There is a LOT of meat on those bones as far as storytelling. But I have ZERO faith in the creative department at Lucasfilm.
bkmeijer1
bkmeijer1 - 3/19/2024, 3:24 AM
@mountainman - I'm just gonna ignore that then. As long as she does her job just fine, I'm not gonna let her personal views ruin it for me (if I even disagree at all)
WarMonkey
WarMonkey - 3/19/2024, 6:42 AM
@mountainman - Disney hired Harvey Weinstein's long term personal assistant to make a SW movie. This is real.
mountainman
mountainman - 3/19/2024, 7:28 AM
@bkmeijer1 - That’s fair. I just hope Disney figures out one day that a large number of their fans hate that they put these activists in charge of things. Their poor performance in recent years is largely because of it. And until they stop doing it, they will continue to struggle.
Clintthahamster
Clintthahamster - 3/19/2024, 7:44 AM
@mountainman - Curious, would you feel the same way if the political positions she was espousing were conservative?
mountainman
mountainman - 3/19/2024, 8:44 AM
@ClintThaHamster - I am neither conservative nor liberal. And I haven’t taken issue with anything that is a traditional liberal political talking point.

The problem is victimhood and intersectionality. The second one is only espoused by the left wing of the political spectrum, but victim hood is equally annoying no matter who says it.

Every time I hear a conservative complain about “rigged elections”, I do have a disdain towards them yes.

Gina Carano, even though she was objectively right about what she said about the authoritarian COVID response, I didn’t want to hear her complain about getting fired.

So yes and no. I hate when I hear celebrities complain about how horrible they have it since their lives are better than 99.99% of the population. I have no empathy for them.

But the intersectionality makes it even worse. These people that put race, sex and other personal info as the most important thing about a person and talk about it constantly. Want to insert it into everything.

Those people are a special type of annoying. And I hope for every business venture they engage in to fail so this toxic and backwards ideology can finally die. The world will be a better place for it.
Clintthahamster
Clintthahamster - 3/19/2024, 10:10 AM
@mountainman - "I am neither conservative nor liberal"

Political labels are very fraught these days. I was just saying "right of center," not affiliated with any kind of formal political platform. Speaking for myself, though, I also reject the liberal label, but mostly because classic liberals like Clinton, Obama, and Biden aren't far enough to the left for my taste, too beholden to corporate interests and war profiteers.

But, yeah, it just comes down to perception. I don't see acknowledging, for example, the fact that race and gender (especially in combination with socioeconomic status) still play a role in giving some folks advantages and holding other folks back to be a "liberal" viewpoint, because that position is borne out by facts. There's a political discussion to be had about how best to address those issues, but denying that they exist in the face of overwhelming evidence is a non-starter.

By the by, intersectionality doesn't mean just "considering race and gender." That's a better definition of identity politics. Rather, intersectionality refers to the concept that factors like race and gender can combine and compound (or intersect, if you will) to create unique dynamics. For example, a black woman's experience in America is different from a black man or a white woman's experience. Disabled queer folks face unique challenges compared to straight disabled folks and able-bodied queer folks.
mountainman
mountainman - 3/19/2024, 11:41 AM
@ClintThaHamster - Intersectionality is taking marxism from a social class focus to a personal demographic focus.

While I don’t disagree with some of the larger points that are presented - for example straight person may on average have an easier time at life than a gay person, it’s such an incomplete view that I find it completely useless.

There are thousands of data points that determine an individuals privilegie. All of this modern “woke” (just using the term to simplify things here) movement only focuses on a few of those data points. Some things that determine your privilege level that are not commonly discussed:

- Having a loving and involved family
- Where you are born
- The fact that you are alive today and not 100 or 500 years ago
- How attractive you are
- How intelligent you are
- The luck or circumstances presented in your life that provided you with opportunities

And literally thousands of other data points.

When only focusing on race, sex, sexual identity, etc, you get such a small view of the issue.

Every single person born in a first world country, regardless of their demographics, in many ways is more privileged than kings and wealthy people were 500 years ago. We all have indoor plumbing, access to the worlds information at our finger tips, and can access a variety of delicious foods easily and (at least a few years ago before inflation) quite cheaply.

Anyone born with a loving and involved family is more privileged evan someone born into a broken family or one where the parents have major personal flaws. A black person born into a loving home is more privileged than a white person born into a home with an alcoholic and abusive parent for example.

Then we look at these celebrities that bitch about this stuff all the time. I guarantee you this actress has lived a far more privileged life than I have, even though I am a straight white male. This is why I don’t want to hear their shit. I’ve met very poor black people that don’t complain as much as these actors do. In fact, this whole privilege and intersectionality discussion primarily only happens among the middle and upper class people. Poor people are too busy getting by to worry about these modern first world problems.

I see all this stuff as our biggest problems in society and life have largely been solved or drastically reduced so people have to invent new things to complain about. It’s petty and pointless.

Do I think that you should treat all people nicely regardless of their personal demographic into? Yes I do.

Do I think that certain people should get bonus privileges today because of bad things that happened in the past? Absolutely not.

And quite honestly, anyone who makes their race, sex, or sexual orientation a key part of their personality is just a sad boring person. That stuff is the least interesting things about you. Your personality, how you behave, and what you do are far more important.

At this point and going forward, anybody who brings this stuff to the forefront will be ignored or talked down to. That’s it. And a growing number of people think like me on this.

We are over this stuff. The “woke” movement had its time for about the last 10 years and we are moving on from it. If you’d like to stay there, feel free to. That’s your choice. But many of us are just moving on from this. Quite likely the outcome is just going to be a more dramatic fracturing of society. I can’t see any way for political or cultural issues to ever be resolved. So society should just split between the more progressive types and the more libertarian types. Let each group live how they want to. The progressives want more taxes and more government control. The libertarians want the opposite of that. We should just go our separate ways, because I’m really tired of the fighting that will only get worse over time.
bkmeijer1
bkmeijer1 - 3/19/2024, 12:37 PM
@mountainman - think the numbers isn't that large. Most people even within the fandom, probably don't care or skulk around dedicated websites like us.

I might probably just think that because I consider myself a fan, but I don't care. I don't mind agendas or whatnot, just bad writing. And what's bad is rarely activism-inspired for me.
mountainman
mountainman - 3/19/2024, 12:48 PM
@bkmeijer1 - I agree in that the people that are upset about the activist writers and producers are only a portion of the decline in viewership and that the rest is due to poor writing.

But I’d argue that the two things are connected. The primary cause of the bad writing is because of the activists. So even for someone that the activism integrated into the products does not bother them, the bad writing and acting from the activists hired does bother them.

And people may take issues with things they don’t recognize. While the average viewer wouldn’t call Rey a Mary Sue, they don’t like her as much as other heroes because she doesn’t have to follow the traditional heroes journey. She isn’t as relatable and we can’t see her overcome struggles.

Or another example - The Marvels. I just saw this last week and it was really bad. But it had very little modern activist politics in it. Like almost nonexistent. It was just bad. My guess is that stuff was more integral to the original cut of the movie, Marvel panicked based on recent reactions to this type of stuff, then cut the movie into what we got. Just a goofy, poorly edited, shell of a movie with no character growth or lasting impact. So certainly not much that could be considered “woke” besides Nick Fury’s continued character assassination, but certainly a movie that a vast majority of people disliked because it was bad.
Clintthahamster
Clintthahamster - 3/19/2024, 1:27 PM
@mountainman - "Intersectionality is taking marxism from a social class focus to a personal demographic focus."

It isn't, though. That's what you mean when you say it, but that's not what the word means.

When you talk about how a stable, loving home grants advantages to to folks who might otherwise be disadvantaged by their race, you are describing an intersectional concept. That we should not only focus on the plight of disadvantaged people of color, but on all folks disadvantaged by socioeconomic circumstances, THAT is an intersectional concept. It cuts both ways. I was just sincerely trying to help you out with more precise language, and referring to intersectionality in that context is bound to cause some confusion.

Looking at your list of "real" factors that could impact someone's upbringing, most of them are impacted by race and gender issues in America:

- Having a loving and involved family
Per the Annie E Casey foundation, Black and Amer­i­can Indi­an or Alas­ka Native kids are most like­ly to live in a sin­gle-par­ent fam­i­lies.

- Where you are born
The impact of housing discrimination is ongoing, and can impact the quality of schools, pre-K education, access to healthy food options, etc.

- How attractive you are
Western Beauty standards have been shown time and time again to be eurocentric, and young black children have been shown in study after study to think of themselves as less beautiful than white children.

- How intelligent you are
Intelligence tests have been shown to be highly influenced by the socioeconomic status of the test taker, and poorer kids who grow up in poorer schools will test poorly on intelligence tests.

- The luck or circumstances presented in your life that provided you with opportunities
Yes, of course, but these circumstances and opportunities are largely dictated by socioeconomic status, which is highly correlated with racial minorities.

It's not racist or controversial to accept these realities. These are facts, demonstrable via both demographic data and scientific studies.

"Every single person born in a first world country, regardless of their demographics, in many ways is more privileged than kings and wealthy people were 500 years ago."

True. Also irrelevant. If the question is "How do we improve outcomes for all people," how bad it WOULD have been if they lived 100 years doesn't matter at all, because we don't live 100 years ago, we live now.

"Do I think that certain people should get bonus privileges today because of bad things that happened in the past? Absolutely not."

What about bad things that are happening right now? Women are STILL paid 84¢ for every dollar men make for the same work, on average. Black folks face lower pay and higher unemployment rates, and have for decades.
[https://www.epi.org/unequalpower/publications/understanding-black-white-disparities-in-labor-market-outcomes/]

We're not talking about "bonus privileges." We're talking about leveling the playing field.

"We are over this stuff. The “woke” movement had its time for about the last 10 years and we are moving on from it.

There is no "woke" movement. It's an idea, meaning "being aware of social injustices, especially in the context of race." And it's telling that folks have had to make up a new definition to be against, since saying "I'm against being aware of social inustices" doesn't have a very nice ring to it.

"The progressives want more taxes and more government control. The libertarians want the opposite of that."

We kind of already have, though. More progressives live in states with larger populations and bigger cities, because being more prone to thinking about the collective good jibes well with city life. And more conservatives live in states with smaller populations and smaller cities, because isolation and distance from one's neighbors jibes well with thinking about the individual good, the objectivist POV. What's changed in the last ten years is, IMO, that some conservatives (and libertarians, if you prefer) want to have their cake and eat it. They want all the advantages of living in a big city (more cultural and dining options, sports teams, exciting employment opportunities) without doing the OTHER things that big city life requires (living elbow to elbow with people that are very different from one's self, paying higher tax rates.) That's what's causing the friction, in my opinion, combined with the increased partisanship and decrease in politeness that's come with the anonymity of the internet. People are perfectly willing to say things outloud online that would get them a (justified) poke in the nose if they say it to someone's face.
mountainman
mountainman - 3/19/2024, 1:52 PM
@Clintthahamster - Do you think that Barack Obama’s daughters are more or less privileged than I am?
mountainman
mountainman - 3/19/2024, 2:03 PM
@Clintthahamster - Oh and there is no way I’m responding to every point in your TLDR post, but the fact that you referenced the completely debunked gender pay gap makes me doubt the veracity of everything you typed.

Taking the salaries of every working man and every working woman and comparing the averages of the numbers does not prove pay disparities. The difference is caused by the fact that men choose higher paying career fields and work more hours. That’s it. If a company could save 16% and get the same quality of work, why wouldn’t they hire all women?

There is zero chance I will engage in your literal marxist (despite your denial of this fact) thinking. I judge people by merit. I don’t give a flying F what your gender, sex, etc is. I refused to get dragged into this regressive thinking.

You don’t judge an entire group as the same. THAT is bigotry. All men are not privileged. Higher suicides, shorter life spans, higher rates of being a homicide victim, far more dangerous jobs worked, always lose in family court cases in certain states, incarcerated at higher rates, higher rates of drug and alcohol abuse, just to name a few of the many things that are worse for men than women.

And I’m on board with not discriminating. The problem is modern DEI is discriminatory, just against men, whites and asians. So that’s why I’m opposed to it. I dislike discrimination. Race based hiring or college admissions quotas are a form of racial discrimination. Affirmative action is racial discrimination. Having colleges that only allow one race in is racial discrimination. Corporations having employees groups to join and network in for some races but not others is racial discrimination and anti-inclusion. All this modern stuff is so backwards. Making your demographics your defining trait. Telling people how privileged or disadvantaged a person is by their race or sex rather than their personal situation. Saying you want to hire or feature certain people because of their race or other personal info. It’s backwards and you can’t gaslight trying to justify it.

Clintthahamster
Clintthahamster - 3/19/2024, 2:36 PM
@mountainman - "Do you think that Barack Obama’s daughters are more or less privileged than I am?"

More, of course. Also, irrelevant. Anecdotal evidence is not data. Your point is intersectionalist, by the way.

"completely debunked gender pay gap"

I tried to find some data backing this up, because I care about facts. If this is "completely debunked" I'd love to know about it. All I could find were a couple of op eds from like Prager University and the American Enterprise Institute. Wondering if you could link to some studies?

"I judge people by merit. I don’t give a flying F what your gender, sex, etc is. I refused to get dragged into this regressive thinking."

This would be important if you were, let's say, the CEO of a fortune 500 company, or the head of the Labor Relations Board. I also judge people by merit, but the scope of my power is limited to hiring for <10 positions at a company with <300 employees. We are not (or, I'm not, anyway) talking about the actions of individuals. We're talking about the actions of institutions. Colleges & universities, the criminal justice system, large corporations. No one's accusing you of anything.

"The problem is modern DEI is discriminatory, just against men, whites and asians."

"Race based hiring or college admissions quotas are a form of racial discrimination. Affirmative action is racial discrimination."

It's not racial discrimination, it's racial consideration. It's not reducing someone to only their race, it's including their race in the total picture of their life, experience, and qualifications. And it's ESSENTIAL to differentiate between Affirmative Action, which, by it's name, implies actively choosing minority candidate for roles, and DEI which simply seeks to make folks more aware of the challenges different groups face.

And yes, you're correct, men have their own sets of issues, including many of the issues you mention. And I'm interested in fixing that. Taxpayer funding for mental healthcare and substance abuse recovery, including restorative justice interventions in responses domestic violence and other violent crimes, deconstructing cultural narratives around what it means to be a "real man" (ie, toxic masculinity.) Would you be on board with that?

"It’s backwards and you can’t gaslight trying to justify it."

The definition of gaslighting is "psychological manipulation of a person usually over an extended period of time that causes the victim to question the validity of their own thoughts, perception of reality, or memories and typically leads to confusion, loss of confidence and self-esteem, uncertainty of one's emotional or mental stability, and a dependency on the perpetrator."

Please provide an example of me attempting to gaslight you.
mountainman
mountainman - 3/19/2024, 2:47 PM
@Clintthahamster - Every single study on the gender pay gap describes it as a median wage of all men vs a median wage of all women.

Here’s an article that pushed the myth of the gap that even proves that it’s just median comparisons: https://www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/2023/03/01/the-enduring-grip-of-the-gender-pay-gap/

And here’s a nice article explaining the reasons why, that are not bigotry related. Tried to find a neutral source that can’t be accused of being right wing.

https://www.gallup.com/workplace/236345/reality-perception-why-men-paid.aspx
Clintthahamster
Clintthahamster - 3/19/2024, 3:01 PM
@mountainman - Thanks for those sources. It is clear from that data that, while the disparity persists (and is much worse for black women) the causes have more to do with the demands of motherhood. In fact, I was able to find multiple sources that showed that childless women tend to do better than childless men, economically speaking, and that the pay gap is, essentially, a childcare penalty. Interesting stuff!

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I'd still argue that that's cause for concern, especially if one is worried about declining birth rates in the US, but that's a different conversation.
mountainman
mountainman - 3/19/2024, 3:35 PM
@Clintthahamster - I’ve seen data like that before. Childless women do on average earn more than childless men. Women are also getting degrees at higher rates than men lately.

Here’s my basic idea about this or just about anything - I don’t want the government involved. It’s such a complex and nuanced issue, that a macro policy will be unable to fix problems without creating new ones.

If we went completely communist and all people were paid the same amount no matter their job it would “fix” pay disparities. But it would cause exponentially more problems.

The Childrearing thing is tough. Women are having fewer kids than in the past. More childless women than in the past. Women having kids at older ages than in the past. But it continues to be something that either pulls them from the career force, reduces their hours, or leads to them choosing a lower paying job with more flexibility.

Too many nuanced to fully flesh this out, but realize that some of this is their choice. My wife who enjoys her career has seriously considered either leaving it or going part time now that we have kids.

Another thing to consider is that strengthening family units on a societal level will help with this.My wife works for a small employer that only have her 2 paid weeks off after birth. She used another 2 weeks of her vacation. But she wanted more than 4 weeks off. She took 12 and I did some extra hours for side gig/weekend work to make up the difference. Since we are a family unit we can work together on these things. But children born to single mothers are at much higher rates than in the past. When this happens (and it’s the man and the woman’s fault that it does), it’s really going to put an extra burden on that woman and she won’t have the man to help her out.

I just don’t think 100% equity across the board on everything is ever going to be achievable or even desirable. I think it’s great that men and women are good at different things. And the trash man and a brain surgeon shouldn’t make the same money. I bet they both work hard. And both provide a valuable contribution to society, But there are far fewer brain surgeons so they will get paid more. It’s much more difficult to train into that field than to be a garbage man.

When it comes to racial disparities, I’ll acknowledge that the past plays a role. And trauma can be inherited from one generation to the next. All that stuff is real. But these big government solutions don’t help.

To fix the problems in Baltimore, on the South Side of Chicago, in Memphis, in Washington DC, in Philly, the only way it’ll actually change is for the community to get involved. I get that is harder and people want to outsource their societal improvement to the government, but there is a clear track record of that not working. What the government could do is lower people’s taxes so they keep more of what they earn, stop overspending at the federal level which causes inflation making us all poorer, and make it much easier for people to earn money legally. Easier to start a business, easier to be a gig worker, easier to hire workers, etc. Too much red tape . Some big east coast city (I think Philly) has such a ridiculous cost to be licensed to braid hair. That hurts the poor. Someone could do that out of their house for cheaper than a salon but they legally can’t do that because of stupid regulations. And in a lot of those inner cities, it’s why too many young men turn to crime because they don’t have other opportunities.

So there are ways we can improve outcomes for people. I would say that if you look at a lot of objective data we already live in the best time in human history. But we can improve. But that improvement will only happen when individuals take voluntary action to make it better and not through tearing down groups, making new special privileged classes, increased government and bureaucracy, and create more hate and division like our government and media have done for the past 15 years.

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