VENOM: LET THERE BE CARNAGE: Andy Serkis Reveals Spider-Man Was Discussed For The Sequel - Spoilers

VENOM: LET THERE BE CARNAGE: Andy Serkis Reveals Spider-Man Was Discussed For The Sequel - Spoilers

Fans have been waiting to see Spider-Man join Venom on the big screen for a while. As it turns out, at one point, there were discussions to have the Wall-Crawler in Let There Be Carnage.

By DanielKlissmman - Oct 01, 2021 09:10 PM EST
Source: The Hollywood Reporter

Note: This article contains spoilers for Venom: Let There Be Carnage.

Tom Holland's Peter Parker meeting Tom Hardy's Venom has been an exciting prospect since the Lethal Protector's first standalone film arrived in 2018. Now, after three years of uncertainty and nail-biting teases, Venom: Let There Be Carnage has finally tied those two universes together. The film's post-credits scene shows Venom and Eddie seemingly being transported into a hotel room in the MCU, as the two catch the Daily Bugle's news report about Peter Parker killing Mysterio. 

This moment opened the door for Spidey to cross paths with his symbiote alter-ego. When that will happen is unclear (though it's not unreasonable to assume it will occur in No Way Home), but as Andy Serkis recently revealed, their highly anticipated meeting could have taken place in Let There Be Carnage.

Chatting with The Hollywood Reporter, the director explained how the movie's post-credits scene changed throughout development, and revealed that there were originally plans to have Spider-Man play a role in the story: 

“[The mid-credits scene was] 100 percent in flux [...] It was something that they talked about from before I even came on to the movie. There were moments where [Spider-Man] was going to be in the story, potentially, and then he wasn’t. But no, we decided that we wanted to really examine the Venom-verse first. So, as we were going through principal photography, the inevitable discussions had to be had, but it wasn’t until very, very late on that we reached the precise notion of the teaser that we wanted to lay in there.”

No Way Home will pit Peter Parker against enemies from past Spider-Man franchises, such as Doctor Octopus (from Spider-Man 2) and Electro (from The Amazing Spider-Man 2). With that in mind, it's interesting to think about the possibility of Spidey playing a role in Let There Be Carnage, which, timeline-wise, would have happened prior to his dip into the multiverse in No Way Home

Could this mean that, initially, the Venom-verse and the MCU were supposed to be in the same world, but Sony and Marvel Studios settled on having them as separate universes to merge later on? It's difficult to tell, but it's an interesting question to ponder.

Having Peter Parker in Let There Be Carnage in a larger capacity would have likely been a treat (who wouldn't love to see the Wall-Crawler brawl it out with Cletus Kasady, after all?). Having said that, Venom seemingly being a part of Spider-Man's multiversal shenanigans opens a world of exciting possibilities for the Lethal Protector and his wall-crawling nemesis. 

Venom: Let There Be Carnage is currently in theaters.

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Jmellox81
Jmellox81 - 10/1/2021, 9:13 PM
Just saw the movie, it was a little all over the place but way way better then the first, post credit scene was perfect..
TheWalkingCuban
TheWalkingCuban - 10/1/2021, 9:19 PM
Carnageverse and Morbiusverse confirmed.
JFerguson
JFerguson - 10/1/2021, 9:24 PM
Nightwing1015
Nightwing1015 - 10/2/2021, 5:58 AM
@JFerguson - An eager female haha love 70s comics
TheWalkingCuban
TheWalkingCuban - 10/1/2021, 9:26 PM
Haven’t watched it and am beyond broke BUT the end credits scene is so hyped I just had to read about it… dude it sounds fun. Well, soon as I can, I’m gonna watched The Venoms. Sony bein smart. Who knewed!
globaltravels
globaltravels - 10/2/2021, 5:31 AM
@TheWalkingCuban - why have you got a picture of Rufus here?
TheWalkingCuban
TheWalkingCuban - 10/2/2021, 5:33 AM
@globaltravels - you’re almost there
Nightwing1015
Nightwing1015 - 10/2/2021, 5:59 AM
@TheWalkingCuban - I would also like to know lol
TheWalkingCuban
TheWalkingCuban - 10/2/2021, 6:01 AM
@Nightwing1015 - it’s just… out… of reach!
Kurban
Kurban - 10/1/2021, 10:03 PM
I still hate it but this could work. If they keep Venom as an otherworldly, multiverse version of himself, we could potentially still have the black suit arc in the MCU with maybe a new Venom down the line (played by the same actors potentially).
Frshcoupe
Frshcoupe - 10/2/2021, 5:08 AM
@Kurban - how would that work tho? A new Venom down the line with Tom Hardy as Venom and in the MCU? I was thinking that they should find the MCU timeline Venom down the line…since this version is from a different time line. Or what about the Venom from Garfields universe.
Kurban
Kurban - 10/3/2021, 8:50 AM
@Frshcoupe - Really, Sony shouldn’t have jumped the gun and made a Venom movie this soon at all but were well past that now.
AmazingFILMporg
AmazingFILMporg - 10/1/2021, 10:04 PM
I really hope Andy Serkis stays far away from venom 3. He is a just not a good director right now. Great actor but I have seen enough of his work and it just aint it🙎



Venom lacked style and heart. Its sucked🤕
dracula
dracula - 10/1/2021, 10:15 PM
@AmazingFILMporg - considering the style of their version of Venom, maybe get Tim miller next
AzorAhai
AzorAhai - 10/1/2021, 10:24 PM
@dracula - For Venom 3 director, I just have to say the Night M Shamalayan is dark and full of terrors
dracula
dracula - 10/1/2021, 10:37 PM
@AzorAhai - the horror the horror…..

MahN166A
MahN166A - 10/1/2021, 11:42 PM
@dracula -

I think J.A. Bayona would be a great director for a Venom threequel
JohnCastillo
JohnCastillo - 10/3/2021, 10:01 PM
@SatsuiNoJXA - I mean in the end it won’t matter who’s in the director’s chair if the scripts continue to be this bad.. I didn’t prefer this to the first one at all. End credit scene was exciting though. But I’m just not into this version of Venom so I’m actually not too excited for the crossover.. hope they make next Venom appearances good.
TheManWithoutFear
TheManWithoutFear - 10/1/2021, 10:31 PM
Sony probably were pushing all the way for it to be the same universe but Feige was having none of it. In the end the mhltiverse allows Sony to cash in while letting Kevin disavow the Sony-verse as soon as he wants to.
mastakilla39
mastakilla39 - 10/2/2021, 12:47 AM
@TheManWithoutFear - With Venom 2's post credit i dont think he has a choice but to acknowledge the sony verse, especially if he wants to keep using spiderman. its blantly clear that Venom is going to be in the next avengers film with that post credit scene. Morbius's michael keaton scene has basically been explained too, i can see now that Morbius should have been released before venom 2 & spiderman 3 too
heisei24
heisei24 - 10/2/2021, 1:26 AM
@TheManWithoutFear - Yeah I figured MCU going multiverse now is more or less influenced by Sony's push
bkmeijer2
bkmeijer2 - 10/2/2021, 1:50 AM
@mastakilla39 - if you mean by that NWH's shenanigans are bringing Toomes over from the MCU to the Sony's universe and that's why we see him out of prison, I agree
Jeight8
Jeight8 - 10/2/2021, 3:18 AM
@mastakilla39 - Of course they have a choice. They dont have to acknowledge any Sony movie they dont want to.

Venom being transported to the MCU was probably Feige mandate as to keep those two movies outside the MCU.
JustAChillDude
JustAChillDude - 10/1/2021, 11:14 PM
for Venom 3 to work imo maybe they should get someone who didn’t write 50 shades of Grey…idk what it is with sony hiring shitty writers but they do. the writers of morbius wrote MIB international and Gods of Egypt…LOL. hopefully with this being sorta kinda MCU feige has more creative control and brings his team over so it can be decent.
bkmeijer2
bkmeijer2 - 10/2/2021, 1:48 AM
@JustAChillDude - I liked MIB International, despite it's many flaws. But GoE was just really bad (with some enjoyable moments). Don't think that bodes well for Morbius
OptimusCrime
OptimusCrime - 10/1/2021, 11:54 PM
For Venom 3 to work, Sony might have to ditch the tradition to introduce a fan favorite symbiote and killing him and his host after a minimum amount of time..
ScottSummers
ScottSummers - 10/2/2021, 6:03 AM
@OptimusCrime - I'm very surprised we didn't get a tease of Carnage surviving.
Twenty23Three
Twenty23Three - 10/2/2021, 1:21 AM
Who needs to classic set up for why Eddie and Venom both hate Peter when you can just have them see him on TV… works just as well
Saga
Saga - 10/2/2021, 1:37 AM
Hell yeaaaaah, can't wait to see them meet up and fight! Easily the most anticipated crossover for me!
bkmeijer2
bkmeijer2 - 10/2/2021, 1:46 AM
Seeing as how this pretty much confirms NWH's plan is to bring over villains through the multiverse, I'm glad they took that route too. It's kinda lazy writing in my opinion, bit atleast we know for sure they're seperate universes.
ElricReturns
ElricReturns - 10/2/2021, 1:52 AM
I wanna know where the news report got that shot of Peter without his mask. That's new footage, right?
Twenty23Three
Twenty23Three - 10/2/2021, 3:00 AM
@ElricReturns - I think the No Way Home trailer suggests that some time passes between Peter being outed and him going to Strange. So he could be publicly known as Spider-Man for some months
Repian
Repian - 10/2/2021, 2:03 AM
I hope to see Carnage / Cletus Kasady returning in the future. Knull has the power to bring Carnage back.


Also, Knull's army needs a general.
DarthOmega
DarthOmega - 10/2/2021, 4:27 AM
I wanted to share a clip some guy uploaded of the theater reaction. It gave me those same theater hype vibes I had during the height of the Infinity saga's post/mid credits teases. Weird how I'm already feeling nostalgic for that very recent era. So excited to see how this Spidey-verse/Multiverse of Madness plays out



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