VENOM: LET THERE BE CARNAGE Director Andy Serkis Says The Sequel Originally Had Even More Spider-Man

VENOM: LET THERE BE CARNAGE Director Andy Serkis Says The Sequel Originally Had Even More Spider-Man

Venom: Let There Be Carnage director Andy Serkis has addressed Spider-Man's cameo role in the sequel's post-credits scene, suggesting it was no easy feat to make happen. Find more details after the jump!

By JoshWilding - Mar 01, 2023 07:03 AM EST
Source: GQ

Venom: Let There Be Carnage ended with a confusing post-credits scene that saw Eddie Brock seemingly transported into the MCU where he took an immediate interest in Spider-Man. 

Spider-Man: No Way Home later cleared things up by revealing that Doctor Strange's botched spell had pulled everyone who knows Peter Parker is Spider-Man to Earth-616. The Venom sequel went some way in explaining why he might be among them due to the Symbiote telling Eddie it has hive knowledge across universes. 

Despite that big tease, there was no sign of Venom in the threequel, with only a mid-credits scene showing Eddie being sent back to his own reality (after leaving a piece of the symbiote behind). 

During a recent interview with GQ, Venom: Let There Be Carnage director Andy Serkis chose his words carefully when asked about the crossover. "It was unsure as to the level of involvement that world would meet with our world," he attempts to explain. "There were drafts which had more, a little more, of the other. The unspoken."

The "unspoken" is a reference to Spider-Man, of course, and the filmmaker would add that the wall-crawler's cameo "was very, very carefully chosen."

It was, in fact, so carefully chosen that it didn't make any sense. A news report with the unmasked Spidey just looking around didn't factor into No Way Home and, while it could have happened off-screen, it didn't feel natural. It's also hard to figure out why Sony set the stage for a meeting that never actually took place despite the movies being released just months apart. 

For what it's worth, Serkis knows this is just the kind of thing that happens with big IPs.

"Working for a long time as a director on those things, you’re a custodian. You have a piece of IP for a particular length of time. I think we have to realise that it’s not ultimately an auteur experience. So you have to shift gears and pour as much creativity as you can into that environment, knowing that you’re looking after that franchise for a particular time and then it will be passed on."

You can check out our Venom: Let There Be Carnage interview with Serkis in the player below. 

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KWilly
KWilly - 3/1/2023, 7:47 AM
Well, Venom 3 better have Spidey as a main character. I wanna see this guy in San Fran going back and forth with Tom Hardy.

bkmeijer1
bkmeijer1 - 3/1/2023, 8:18 AM
@KWilly - same. And I hope that Spider-Man is Garfield's. Think his Spider-Man fits in best with the Venom movies.

Doesn't even need to have Peter Parker. Just Spider-Man is enough.
KWilly
KWilly - 3/1/2023, 9:19 AM
@bkmeijer1 - Yeah, that's what I was insinuating. Can't be Tom's, because we already know he's in the MCU. Can't be Tobey's, because he already went against his Venom.

Andrew is the only one where you can say he's been in this universe the whole time, and it doesn't seem off or forced.
bkmeijer1
bkmeijer1 - 3/1/2023, 10:09 AM
@KWilly - exactly. And after No Way Home, I think there is interest again to see the character. Everybody wins I suppose
SonOfAGif
SonOfAGif - 3/1/2023, 11:52 AM
@bkmeijer1 - Plus it becomes another becareful what you wish for Parker situation with Peter 3 saying "No way I wanna fight an alien!"
bkmeijer1
bkmeijer1 - 3/1/2023, 2:32 PM
@SonOfAGif - didn't think of that. But indeed, even he gets his cool moment now
connorblaze
connorblaze - 3/1/2023, 7:51 AM
This was one of the worst comic book movies I’ve seen. So disappointing. Expected more from Serkis.

A venom film starring Tom Hardy sounds like my perfect film. I don’t care if it’s nothing like the comics. It’s the character design and the Jekyll/Hyde duality that interests me. And yet I [frick]ing hate both Venom movies. Terrible, terrible films that epitomize the worst of Hollywood. Creatively bankrupt movies.
BritishMonkey
BritishMonkey - 3/1/2023, 8:00 AM
It was just as bad as the first film.
I like Andy as an actor, but his directing, ehh...
Origame
Origame - 3/1/2023, 8:01 AM
Wait, isn't the scene being pointless more on no way home? Venom was supposed to be on the sinister six (hence why we were one off from 6 in the final film). He was only cut because the film was already struggling to balance villains already and venom simply didn't have a relationship with a spiderman. Not saying the team behind no way home were wrong for doing that (though it created a bit of a plot hole that no one noticed him as one of the breachers (why did they need to collect the villains if venom could just be out)), but it's clearly more on the no way home team since the venom 2 team was just doing what they were told.
DTor91
DTor91 - 3/1/2023, 2:48 PM
@Origame - “Venom was supposed to be on the sinister six (hence why we were one off from 6 in the final film). He was only cut because the film was already struggling to balance villains already and venom simply didn't have a relationship with a spiderman.”

Lol where did you pull this from? This is pure speculation.
tb86
tb86 - 3/1/2023, 8:12 AM
The only things about this movie I liked was Woody Harrelson as Carnage and Naomie Harris as Shriek.
TheWalkingCuban
TheWalkingCuban - 3/1/2023, 10:05 AM
@tb86 - to me she sucked plain and simple, the Wahlberg too, that was a Wahlberg right? Woody… here’s the thing. You can’t go full Mickey and Mallory in pg13, that’s why she sucked and he wasn’t far from her. For some reason… I now want to rewatch it. Might be something I can get from it I didn’t the first time
bkmeijer1
bkmeijer1 - 3/1/2023, 8:20 AM
I think there will be follow-up to the Venom 2 and No Way Home post-credit scenes.

Just hope that the actual Spider-Man in the Venomverse is Garfield's though. After No Way Home I think there is enough buzz around the character again.

Also, I kinda want Andy Serkis to direct one of those new Middle-Earth movies.
Razorface1
Razorface1 - 3/1/2023, 8:23 AM
I think its hilarious how this movies made Venom look like more of an evil psychopath than Carnage.
slickrickdesigns
slickrickdesigns - 3/1/2023, 8:39 AM
This was a major disappointment of a film.
I expected it to be bad but I also expected it to be better than what we got as I thought Serkis would bring these cgi symbiotes something different than what we got in the first Venom film and really what we got was worse in every way. The underwhelming Spider-Man cameo was the icing on the cake.
ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 3/1/2023, 10:12 AM
I wonder if he's allowed to confirm if it was originally supposed to be the same universe or not, before reshoots.
ThorArms
ThorArms - 3/1/2023, 12:27 PM
This movie sucked
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