Simon Kinberg Reflects On How To Properly Tell The DARK PHOENIX Saga For Film Or Television

Simon Kinberg Reflects On How To Properly Tell The DARK PHOENIX Saga For Film Or Television

DARK PHOENIX Star Jessica Chastain Hopes To Play A More Established Comic Book Villain Next Time
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SummersEssex - 10/13/2021, 7:00 AM
I could fart in a jar and it would be better than what we got from Singer and Kinberg.
AwesomePromoz - 10/13/2021, 7:27 AM
@SummersEssex - Sounds like something we might get on HBO Max
thewanderer - 10/13/2021, 3:48 PM
@SummersEssex - I still think there’s a good hour of footage for an X-Men: Civil War movie in “Dark Phoenix”. Could have been great.
bkmeijer2 - 10/13/2021, 7:02 AM
Having Xavier present a mental image is a pretty clever way of using a young cast later in the timeline. Maybe then the timeline still would've made some sense. Aside from that, this sounds infinitely better
GhostDog - 10/13/2021, 7:12 AM
@bkmeijer - yea the mental image idea is clever. Always love to see different facets of Xavier’s power set.
GeneralZod - 10/13/2021, 7:07 AM
What i find astonishing is how Fox Studios/Kinberg didn't even bother to engage Claremont as a script consultant. Claremont is not just a resource, he's the author that built the Phoenix Saga. Why wouldn't Claremont have been brought on board to help with the script? Sheer stupidity.
regularmovieguy - 10/13/2021, 8:35 AM

Comic book creators typically have no input in these movies.
MaddAddaM - 10/13/2021, 7:09 AM
Claremont’s work defining the X-Men is legendary, untouchable. He’s a comics god for his contributions…

All that said, if you’ve read anything that’s he’s written since returning to the characters, you know that he really doesn’t have many great X-Men stories left in the tank.

A king has his reign, and then like all men, he moves on. Claremont should move on, standing on the sidelines complaining about others work is unbecoming. Especially considering how much he was bragging about his input into Dark Phoenix film when the film came out. He called Simon Kinberg a great director and visionary. Dude can’t be trusted anymore.
GhostDog - 10/13/2021, 7:10 AM
Reading his ideas on how he would re-do everything has been INFINITELY better than both those films
The1st - 10/13/2021, 7:34 AM
Because the bar is so high to match that excellence achieved in those films.

sKeemAn - 10/13/2021, 7:49 AM
So Claremont would have done some actual justice and continuity to the X-Men mythos?

the fact that they kerfunkled this story twice is incredible.
makes me sick.

slickrickdesigns - 10/13/2021, 10:02 AM
@Waddles - Kinberg proved you don’t have to be good at writing to get a job writing movies.
sKeemAn - 10/14/2021, 7:18 AM
Keep writing @waddles your break will come soon. Sending you the best of luck.
Armageddon26 - 10/13/2021, 7:55 AM
I respect and feel for the fact he had the Fox X-Men continuity remembered well enough to completely rewrite it, and connect it to Logan even. Definitely not the first time he’s thought about it lol
TheDpool - 10/13/2021, 8:29 AM
You know what the worst thing about Dark Pheonix was?

Sophie Turner. Promoting the movie, the girl had this smugness and strangley large ego considering she was literally only known for her X-Men role and GOT.
I remember her on shows and interview clips, strutting around like she was the next Angelina Jolie. The way she acted as if the movie was good, and she was the best part of it.

And then you watch her Jean (the weakest of the cast) and you wonder how she could think she was justified to act that way.
slickrickdesigns - 10/13/2021, 9:59 AM
@TheDpool - I feel like that’s normal for actors and actresses, even when promoting a bad movie you have to act like it’s worth seeing… and whatever arrogance she had in interviews are normal as well like Megan Fox when she promoted any of the turd nugget movies she was in.
Reeds2Much - 10/13/2021, 10:13 AM
@TheDpool - Because people react more positively towards confidence. We may act like it's horrible, put it's simply a fact of life that you're more likely to succeed if you act like your shit don't stink.
CorndogBurglar - 10/13/2021, 10:52 AM
@TheDpool - She's always been annoying to me, but she definitely wasn't the worse thing about that movie. The worse thing was the entire movie being complete garbage.
ModHaterSLADE - 10/13/2021, 8:43 AM
Would only be an improvement.
slickrickdesigns - 10/13/2021, 9:50 AM
I really don’t get how Kinberg kept his job and Singer made 2 decent X-men movies but wouldn’t use the comics as reference material. Fox’s X-men were a joke that only Patrick Stewart and Hughe Jackman could keep a float. First class was decent but still too close to the previous movies that didn’t really work. X2 was the best one in my opinion (not including Logan or the Wolverine) and even that one had plenty of issues.
CorndogBurglar - 10/13/2021, 10:50 AM
As much as I love Claremont, I think this sucks too. Why make Rachel the Phoenix/Dark Phoenix?

I could understand wanting to use her later, but the first encounter with the Phoenix Force needs to be Jean Grey.
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